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What did McNabb mean?
The Inquirer ^ | Feb. 03, 2006 | Annette John-Hall and Rob Watson

Posted on 02/04/2006 9:37:20 PM PST by george76

A figure of speech, some say of the quarterback’s “black-on-black crime” remark.

Others say it fans flames.

Hear what fans have to say.

During the lead-up to the world's biggest sporting extravaganza, the Super Bowl, Donovan McNabb fires off a salvo for the world to hear:

Terrell Owens' criticism of his quarterbacking skills last season was "black-on-black crime."

Black-on-black crime?

A careless choice of words, given the daily tragedies in Philadelphia and other cities, or intentionally loaded?

Or just a figure of speech?

From the streets of Philadelphia, inside barbershops, and all day over the radio airwaves yesterday, people weighed in on McNabb's words.

Did he realize what he was saying? Was he hero or victim? Was he speaking out too late?

And all the while they couldn't help but wonder: Will this beef ever end?

"It was definitely a slap in the face for me," McNabb told ESPN in an interview broadcast on Wednesday, speaking for the first time about Owens' November accusation that the Eagles would have been better off with Green Bay quarterback Brett Favre.

"As deep as people won't go into it, it was black-on-black crime."

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


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1 posted on 02/04/2006 9:37:25 PM PST by george76
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To: george76
And all the while they couldn't help but wonder: Will this beef ever end?

Not as long as you keep yapping about it!
2 posted on 02/04/2006 10:05:22 PM PST by Terpfen (72-25: The Democrats mounted a failibuster!)
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To: george76

Please somebody make it stop.


3 posted on 02/04/2006 10:16:14 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: george76; ABG(anybody but Gore); akorahil; albee; A message; andyland; Argh; b4its2late; ...

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4 posted on 02/04/2006 10:16:39 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard
Sportsblogging again!

Two things are clear from the ESPN interview of Donovan McNabb that’s Topic A in the sports world today:

1) Donovan McNabb needs to get himself away from the Eagles for his own sake.

2) The Eagles need to trade Donovan McNabb for their own sake.

One thing is clear from the history of how these things go:

1) McNabb and the Eagles are going to wait a year too long to separate themselves from each other.

Between the lines of the interview and even a little more obvious than that it’s clear that a sizable percentage of McNabb’s teammates dislike him and he feels the sting keenly. Merely getting rid of malcontent Terrell Owens is not going to repair the place.

Race is a huge factor here. It’s fascinating: you could maybe list 1,000 men in America whose life you would rather have than McNabb’s if you worked at it. He’s rich, famous, young, doing what he loves and powerful: McNabb told Eagle management to jump (get rid of Owens) and they got airborne.

And yet he clearly feels racial slights keenly, meant or not. Owens mutters that the Eagles would have been undefeated with Brett Favre - a stupid comment, given Favre’s year - and what McNabb hears is “some white guy.” And the subtext of McNabb’s own comments is the sense that his mostly African-American teammates just don’t like or respect him. Contrariwise, McNabb was able to turn his offense at Rush Limbaugh’s comments a few years ago to good use - he was slumping until Limbaugh opened his yap. (Limbaugh’s blather about the media had nothing to it - the great irony of McNabb and race is that he’s from the first generation of “normal black quarterbacks.”) Since then, and it pains the Redskin fan in me to say this, Donovan McNabb . . .

. . . has been one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL. This week the Redskins shot down the rumor that they’re in the market for Terrell Owens. I say, wrong Eagle. I’d trade McNabb for all three quarterbacks on Washington’s roster and management pariah Lavar Arrington too. Joe Gibbs has made a specialty of giving retread quarterbacks second acts to their American lives. He might be just the thing McNabb needs to achieve a career of genuine brilliance.

The biggest insult of all for McNabb was an idiot column by the suddenly-former head of the Philadelphia NAACP who criticized McNabb for acting white by becoming more of a pocket passer and less of a runner in the last few years. This was offensive because he was insisting that McNabb conform to the stereotype of the “great athlete” quarterback, the racial code phrase no one in sports needs help translating. And it was stupid because McNabb hasn’t run less because he’s getting “whiter”; he’s run less because he’s getting older. The man is pushing thirty and he understands that the running quarterback, as he ages, has two choices: stop being a running quarterback or stop being a quarterback period. If you keep that shit up, you will get injured to the point of uselessness. Cf. McNair, Steve.

The unwritten, stupid rule of sports punditry is that you don’t compare great athletes across color lines. Promising white basketball players have to be compared to Larry Bird or Steve Kerr. Promising black quarterbacks have to be compared to Randall Cunningham or Warren Moon. But the best analogs to Donovan McNabb are ofays: Mark Brunell, a pale male who used to be a running quarterback and curtailed his running as he approached McNabb’s current age; and Buffalo’s Jim Kelly, who year after year led teams almost to the top of the NFL class, but not quite.

I don’t know how or why Kelly was able to keep his teammates behind him through the years of frustration in Buffalo. I seem to recall there was at least one season when a star receiver threatened to go rogue on him and Kelly’s teammates helped Kelly bring the guy back into line, exactly what didn’t happen with the Eagles. Maybe McNabb should ask Kelly about it. Emerging from this interview and other things I’ve read is the suggestion that McNabb is a bit reserved. (”He acknowledges he could have done more” to smooth things over with Owens.)

I used to be the sort of white libertarian who, when someone like Donovan McNabb was so obviously aggrieved about racial issues, would wonder, “With a life like that why is he feeling sorry for himself?” But that was stupid. You have to stand in awe of the sheer troublesome power of it all, to make such a happy life unhappy.

5 posted on 02/04/2006 10:20:10 PM PST by cgk (I don't see myself as a conservative. I see myself as a religious, right-wing, wacko extremist.)
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To: cgk

But it is so much fun.


6 posted on 02/04/2006 10:23:06 PM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: Terpfen

Not as long as you keep yapping about it!




You beat me to it. :D


7 posted on 02/04/2006 10:25:30 PM PST by The Foolkiller (It is not enough today for the deviant to be normalized. The normal must be found to be deviant.)
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To: cgk

The Cardinals would love to have him, too.


8 posted on 02/04/2006 10:28:38 PM PST by The Foolkiller (It is not enough today for the deviant to be normalized. The normal must be found to be deviant.)
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To: cgk

As an Eagles fan I agree with this post. Donovan has to go. He is never going to win with the SB with the Eagles. His time in Philly is OVER!!


9 posted on 02/05/2006 4:00:06 AM PST by LongsforReagan (Dick Cheney is the best elected official in this country. Period.)
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To: george76

Has he lashed out against Hugh Douglas yet over his comments about him?


10 posted on 02/05/2006 5:04:38 AM PST by mainepatsfan
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To: george76

As a race, they are not racist. Individually, in the USA, many to most?? American raised blacks are. Many have been raised and taught that the white man is the reason they are down trodden as a people (played on by race pimps like Jackson and Sharpton) and are full of hate because of this. That is why so many hate filled blacks convert to Islam in prison. It is a hate filled cultish fanatic religion that appeals to these blacks because they too are hate filled. It allows redemption, getting even, and being more powerful than their enemy. (whites)


11 posted on 02/05/2006 6:07:08 AM PST by right right
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To: cgk

Interesting comments.


12 posted on 02/05/2006 7:01:31 AM PST by Tallguy (When it's a bet between reality and delusion, bet on reality -- Mark Steyn)
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To: george76

Is that name available? Life's too short. Don't be a hater .

13 posted on 02/05/2006 7:05:44 AM PST by csvset
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To: george76
Though extremely talented, McNabb is obviously race-paranoid which has undermined his "leadership" quality necessary to win. Especially at the QB position.

The only "color" real fans look at is the jersey of their team.

14 posted on 02/05/2006 7:16:29 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: right right

Dang, I wish I had a dime for every generalization you just laid down.


15 posted on 02/05/2006 7:18:16 AM PST by steelcurtain
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To: steelcurtain

just life experiences and personal observations........ when looking past the truth, all you see is what you wanted to see in the first place.........


16 posted on 02/05/2006 8:50:27 AM PST by right right
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To: george76

If I owned a team, I'd trade for McNabb. I think he will become an incredible QB now that he's given up being HB.

Dallas should trade for him. I think McNabb would flourish under that system.


17 posted on 02/05/2006 9:06:14 AM PST by sully777 (The religion of peace apparently kills!)
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To: sully777

I just hope Donovan doesn't end up in Phoenix or Detroit!


18 posted on 02/05/2006 9:07:19 AM PST by sully777 (The religion of peace apparently kills!)
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To: LongsforReagan

Is this accurate?

"From the streets of Philadelphia, inside barbershops, and all day over the radio airwaves yesterday, people weighed in on McNabb's words..."


19 posted on 02/05/2006 9:16:56 AM PST by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: cgk
...Mark Brunell, a pale male who used to be a running quarterback and curtailed his running as he approached McNabb’s current age...

Mark Brunell suffered several injuries to his knees, that more than anything else stopped his running, his age merely compounded the problem.

I heard a caller to sports radio say, "See, it's bad enough that the two couldn't get it together, but within our community it's worse to do that kind of thing to another brother..."

As if to say "black on black" crime is horrible, but if you commit a crime against a white person it's not so bad. Is this what McNabb meant?

When the Limbaugh debacle exploded McNabb's comment was "I consider myself to be a quarterback, I thought we were past all this."

Then when the Eagles made it to the NFC Championship against Michael Vick, he said what a great thing it was to have the top two QBs in the conference be black, and compared himself to Doug Williams going in to the Super Bowl.

Then TO called him out for not running and doing all he could to win, McNabb flip-flopped on the race issue again. Now he's done it again. McNabb's race is only an issue when he can use it to support his own agenda.

20 posted on 02/05/2006 9:51:02 AM PST by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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