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The Pentagon Is Losing Iraq (Vanity)

Posted on 06/16/2005 7:26:20 PM PDT by faithincowboys

If Drudge is right that the Pentagon is planning to dump more abuse photos from Abu Ghraib, there is no use --we should just surrender.

If I had a loved one in harm's way, I'd tell them to desert. We can't win a war this way. Our media and governmanetal elites simply won't let us win this war.

Bush is too weak and the Republicans in Congress are intimidated by the big Beltway Media. The grunt and the Average patriotic American doesn't have anybody fighting for them.

There is no mass movement to defend the honor of the American military and there is no internal movement within the Pentagon or this Administration to say "Enough, we ain't giving the Rats in the media anymore sh*t to weaken us and boost the our enemies. We got a post-modern, post-nam Military brass-- not a pair of balls on any of them. There simply is no push back. The Schumers, the Durbins, the Moores and the MSM are more committed than the Right is.

I understand why recruitment is down-- the damn Generals don't defend the grunts. They keep giving more and more ammo to the Islamisofascists and the Enemies within. Tell me where I'm wrong.


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1 posted on 06/16/2005 7:26:21 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys

You again? More Rah, Rah from you, eh?

Well first, get your facts together. The Pentagon has been ordered to release these items. It is not their choosing.


2 posted on 06/16/2005 7:28:54 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (The only thing a man should moisturize is a woman.)
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To: faithincowboys
A federal judge is forcing the Pentagon to release them to the ACLU.

Judge: Release Abu Ghraib Videos, Photos
3 posted on 06/16/2005 7:29:41 PM PDT by West Coast Conservative (Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.)
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To: faithincowboys

Dude. Try to keep it together. If war were easy or cheap we would do it all the time.


4 posted on 06/16/2005 7:29:51 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: faithincowboys

Don't go wobbly on us.


5 posted on 06/16/2005 7:30:15 PM PDT by eddie willers
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To: faithincowboys
I can't agree with your "surrender now" comments (and I don't think you meant those comments to be taken literally anyway).

I do agree that the administration hasn't done a great job of managing perceptions of this war. We're winning the military war, but the real war is the war of information and public perceptions. That war isn't going real well, and the enemy seems to have seized the initiative and they're constantly on offense.

6 posted on 06/16/2005 7:31:14 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: faithincowboys

Patience, my friend. Read the milblogs when you get discouraged. A sea-change has already happened in Iraq. In northern Iraq, our boys don't even go around with body armor.


7 posted on 06/16/2005 7:31:20 PM PDT by Frumious Bandersnatch
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To: faithincowboys
Although I don't necessarily agree with everything you say, you certainly are scratching the surface of some of my frustrations with how we are prosecuting this war. We need more Patton's and less patten leather.
8 posted on 06/16/2005 7:32:00 PM PDT by Shortwave (Ted Kennedy’s rhetoric has killed more American soldiers than his car has killed women.)
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To: Pukin Dog

Yeah, by some Communist scum. Appeal the damn thing. Get held in contempt. The country would cheer if somebody at the Pentagon said, "We ain't releasing anything. It's duplicative and isn't in the national interest to do so. So f*ck off."


9 posted on 06/16/2005 7:32:22 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys

The conservatives are disgruntled, and if they are still digruntled come November, 2005 the RINOS will probably lose both houses.

The Republicans don't have a clue on how to use their newly mandated leadership posts and will be in for a rude awakening come January, 2006.

And they will have nobody to blame except themselves.


10 posted on 06/16/2005 7:32:28 PM PDT by wrathof59 ("to the Everlasting Glory of the Infantry".........Robert A Heinlein)
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To: West Coast Conservative

The military should declare them classified and tell the judge to eff off.


11 posted on 06/16/2005 7:32:42 PM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines ("I say we take off, nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure."--S. Townsley on Ithaca)
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To: faithincowboys

Your letting the leftist Koolaid fumes emitted by the media get to you. Step back and take some clean deep breaths.


12 posted on 06/16/2005 7:33:02 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: 68skylark; All

Everyone who's pro-military in this country is so cowed. I think there needs to be a grassroots mass movement to push back. We're letting the 60s Pinkos destroy another generation of American heroes and cause us to lose another war. We got Republicans saying we should get out, recuitment is down and now we got a pissload of new enemy-bolstering photos coming out. I can't take this sh*t.


13 posted on 06/16/2005 7:34:52 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: Pukin Dog
The Pentagon has been ordered to release these items. It is not their choosing.

I don't know about you, but I'd like to see the administration sidestep this court order.

Maybe the laws allows them to withhold the materials based on their potential harm to national security. Or maybe some clever lawyer could come up with some other fig-leaf argument for holding on to these items.

14 posted on 06/16/2005 7:34:57 PM PDT by 68skylark
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To: faithincowboys
I continue to ask all of you pessimists:

HOW MUCH DOES BUSH HAVE TO WIN BEFORE YOU ARE CONVINCED??

The score does not matter until the end of the game.

15 posted on 06/16/2005 7:34:59 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (The only thing a man should moisturize is a woman.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

What ever happened to the politics of persoanl destruction-- we got a commie, 5th Column bastard with his rotton doped out sons giving blow jobs when their not reading Marx getting the kids of loyal Americans killed with this sh*t. I am spitting mad. This Commie Judge should be destroyed. Period.


16 posted on 06/16/2005 7:37:32 PM PDT by faithincowboys
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To: faithincowboys

RELAX.

17 posted on 06/16/2005 7:37:38 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.")
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To: faithincowboys

Hmm....you seem to have faith in cowboys, but not much else.


18 posted on 06/16/2005 7:38:02 PM PDT by JennysCool (Support bacteria - they're the only culture some people have.)
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To: faithincowboys

excuse the vulgarity everyone please...


what the f*ck are you talking about? American boys (and girls) are bleeding for your stupid ASS to say stupid things. Who are you trying to be? Dick Durbin?

YOu have no idea. Stick to what you know (which from what I can tell, isnt very much). Crawl back under your G-damned rock.


19 posted on 06/16/2005 7:38:18 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (10,000 posts by 29 June!!! 9,989 replies and counting........who will be #10,000?)
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To: faithincowboys
I can't take this sh*t.

Well bless you for caring about this issue so much -- I wish others did too. I think there are reasons for good cheer -- we're not in the same position we were in the 1960's (even though the libs have fantasies that we are). Now we have FR and blogs and email and talk radio and Fox news, and a majority of voters on our side. That's not nothing!

I wish things were going better, but war always has dark times -- we're Americans, and compared to what we've been through before, this is nothing we can't handle.

20 posted on 06/16/2005 7:38:51 PM PDT by 68skylark
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