Posted on 06/14/2005 11:40:37 PM PDT by franksolich

Nope.....even after more than ten hours into this debacle, the Andyites have not answered a single one of 3 simple easy-to-answer questions.
Three!
I have to give Mike Malloy's otherwise wretched forum some credit. They have left it there, so far (even though they changed the names of the original poster to "Guest"). Now if it stays, they have one up on DU at least.
No LOCK! or DELETE! (yet), but alot of BAN!.
The debacle (debacle for the Andyites) is still up, but few comments added since early this morning.
The Andyites are trying a common tactic, trying to put the side of ethics and honesty on the defensive--something this side has fallen for, at times--when it is not the side of ethics and honesty that needs defending.
The Andyites made the claims (the round red one has pancreatic cancer, the round red one needs money), not the other side--and so it is up to the Andyites to prove those claims, not for us to disprove them.
They have a severe difficulty with that idea.
Also, comprehending that Andy made himself and his prognosis a public concern when he asked for donations. Demanding to know the identity of those asking questions is a smokescreen. Saying the public has no right to answers is completely wrong.
One poster, while refusing to answer the 3 questions claimed the entire process had been transparent. Clear cognitive dissonance.
Finally, the seemingly clear-thinking poster near the end admits every single one of our concerns is legitimate and that Andy has given the impression of shenanigans and should provide the information in order to end the situation, and yet persists in calling the questioners "trolls." "Truthseekers." Ha.
SD
One of the things that amuses me is how the Andyite richboy insists scamdy.com is "all FReepers," when in stark fact scamdy.com is more diverse than the Andyites.
Scamdy.com and the DUmmie FUnnies have the confidence of several members of democraticunderground, all but one of them long-time members (around at least as long as the DUmmiette sfexpat2000, that cartoon-character guy, and the red round one)--making both places more "ideologically diverse" than the Andyites.
Those individuals working on this, since this scam was first divulged the evening of April 28, have included whites, blacks, Asians; housewives and retired military personnel; affluent and not affluent; straights and gays; teenagers and old fogies; engineers and truck drivers; cops and ministers.....
.....which is much more diverse than the Andyites, whose most-prominent members are simply rich white middle-ageds with the temperament of kids.
I resemble that remark! LOL
OK back to the topic ...
I especially liked the posters who chalked it all up to trying to defame the red round one (rro) to put a stop to investigations of voter fraud. What a stretch and a hoot.
I know, that made me laugh too!
And franksolich has a good point that needs to be emphasized: The burden of proof is on them. They made the claims and now they are balking at proving the veracity of those claims.
There is no room in their minds for the idea that conservatives have an interest in fair, honest elections as well. The idea that Democrats have cheated in the big cities for decades isn't on their radar. They can audit Ohio all they want. Let me audit Philadelphia.
SD


I've had dealings with Republicans in the past and this was a classic GOP Hatchet Job. That "FBI" file was too well written to have come from these losers.
It's funny that their robots are being told that they need to be better robots.
Frankly I believe Andy can sue all of them over what we got them to do here but I feel it would be even better to track the whole thing back to the GOP and expose the entire operation.
This raises the big question:
Were any tax dollars used in this effort?
There's one big problem with this theory of theirs: disclosure.
but I feel it would be even better to track the whole thing back to the GOP and expose the entire operation.
Yeah, this is all a Rovian operation to prevent honest voting by destroying the future electibilty of Andy Stephenson. Ha.
SD
They're just not all the bright, are they? I do love the entertainment value they provide. It just never gets old, even though you know they're going to say the same thing regardless of the topic.
That's right! No matter what the debate is about or how intelligent they consider themselves, it all falls back on "it's Bush's/Rove's/'Repuke's' fault"...whine, whine, whine. That's why I love it when we shake the ant farm just to get them stirred up a littl--to show some LIFE! LOL!
Isn't Steve "termite's" real name? Can't imagine ole termite being a lier! Shock! Looks like the DUmmies just found a new forum for making absolute fools of themselves--again!
I think this particular Steve is on the side of wanting the questions answered, and this particular Beth is on the side of, you get what you got and no more.
Oh--okay! I hadn't read that part yet--never mind! LOL! I guess it will all get sorted out.
Beth's attempt to spin the "diagnosis" of cancer "proven" by a form freely-available to download as a PDF, with no signature and with the doctor's business card overlaid on the form.
SD
Oh, how I wish Scamdy would just try to sue "them"! He hasn't a leg to stand on and would get things brought out that I am quite sure he would love not to see the light of day! Let the fun begin!
That is what is so sweet here--they try to use these old documents that have already been proved right here to be fraudulent! Then won't even acknowledge the Three Questions that really hold relevance! Typical DUmmie mindset! Try to put up smokescreens to cover the truth--problem is the truth is already out there, nothing can cover it up now!
As far as I'm concerned this document is the smoking gun. The April 27th date on this "Cancer Care" form with the "week of 5/23" surgery date written on it proves the rush to get money for the 5/10 surgery was a lie. There was no 5/10 surgery scheduled, ever.
If there's a reasonable explanation for the April 27 date on this form, no one has attempted to give it.
SD
When have the DUmmies ever been known to need "reasonable" explanations when their whole scheme is to just whine that it is "Bush's fault" or someone else's fault and try to turn the discussion to fault and blame. I am glad these documents have been preserved so they can't be erased from memory......and there are some very long memories here!
It is also telling that out of all the documents Andy could have presumably used to prove his diagnosis to be pancreatic cancer, he chose THAT one?
Very, very weak.
Also, Andy wasn't even in Baltimore yet on April 27, so that was not a diagnosis by JH. Shouldn't he have reams of stuff with "pancreatic cancer" all over it from JH that he could have produced?
Honestly, Andy has no one to blame but himself for the skepticism surrounding this whole thing. He is the one that is letting it fester, but his goonies are out there blaming skeptics for not blindly following like sheep.
So you admit this is all a scheme to keep Andy from getting elected? LOL
SD
Yes, he should now have reams of stuff from JH. But that's not sufficient. We need something from before they started the "Andy has cancer" fundraising.
I mean, if they want to prove it was all legitimate. There should be something from a doctor in Washington, right?
SD
Heh-heh! I'm not admitting to anything! Like the Nazi Sgt said "I know nuuuuuuuuting!" But if it washes out like that, the world is a better place! Who needs more Scamdys in office--we already have enough! Leahy, Kennedy *hic*, sKerry,....I could go on. And Andy is suuuch small potatoes compared to those crooks!
Yes, there most definitely *should* be something, if this is legit. But we certainly haven't seen it and the Goonie Brigade is fighting awfully hard to avoid producing something that, according to them, should be easy as pie to produce.
That has to be the best one I've read so far. Classic DUmmie speak.
Frank, would you please add my name to your ping list?
Thought it was already there, madam; done now.
This ping list pretty long, and not in alphabetical order, but I thought I had seen your name.
Okay, no problem.
"Were any tax dollars used in this effort?"
These guys are absolute idiots! Like Andy is sooooo important that the GOP would be after him. Too many drugs have fried SplitFired's brain.
Thank you, sir. I only came upon this post by sheer coincidence. I happened to be scrolling the latest comments page when a reply had been posted.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1421322/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1422004/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1422536/posts
The previous DUmmie Alert!s, since the first one posted in this place on Sunday.
Above, in chronological order.
I wonder if this gang is part of the group of ex-cons that Diebold (?) apparently hired to help write the voting machine program?
LOL!
Oh, man.
If they only knew what we really are.
Life is so full of surprises.
I don't think he was known outside of the gay community in Seattle, until Bev Harris lost her head and hired him circa mid-2003.
Well, he's a celebrity now, but for all the wrong reasons.
I'd rather be the least-known man in the whole world, than be the red round one.
I know it's a bit more work, but it provides a ready reference for those of us wishing to back track without having to go through a search.
Thanks ---

Count them........one..........two............three! Couldn't be easier for them, except.......oh wait.........they have no answers!
And he is on no special diet after having part of his intestines removed.
Someone needs to take pity on those DUmmies and post a picture of the Red Round One so they can see just who they are feeling sooooooo sorry for! They are just pathetic--and DUmb! LOL!
An issue about which I feel very bitter, madam.
Unlike the rich-kid Andyites in DUmmieland, I have seen, first-hand, and up-close, ill people left to die, and hungry people starving to death.....in a now-defunct socialist Paradise of the Workers and Peasants.
For two years, that was at elbow, in the nostrils.
Andy truly has no shame. How embarrassing. Now the DUmmies are supposed to feed him? Unless this tavalon person is taking it upon him/herself to ask for Whole Food gift cards to help him/her feed Andy. Could be tavalon offered to get organic foods for Andy and is turning around and asking DU to help.
Andy is a DU dependant. What next?
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