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Germantown, TN area - a liberal bastion???

Posted on 06/14/2005 1:05:28 PM PDT by sandiegocouple

Hello to one and all. My wife and I are accountants in San Diego, CA and she's been offered a position with a company in Memphis, TN. We've done some initial research on probable places to live and we really like the Germantown area - the homes in our desired price range (250k-310k) seem lovely, the published statistics for the town seem right-on, and the public schools are highly-rated. Our question is: What's the political climate of the town? Thanks in advance.


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1 posted on 06/14/2005 1:05:28 PM PDT by sandiegocouple
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To: sandiegocouple

Welcome to Free Republic.


2 posted on 06/14/2005 1:08:00 PM PDT by areafiftyone (Politicians Are Like Diapers, Both Need To Be Changed Often And For The Same Reason!)
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Presidential politics: Germantown is in Shelby County, which voted Democratic in the last two presidential elections. According to unofficial vote totals for 2004, Bush received 157,591 votes and John Kerry received 215,810 votes.

In the November 2000 election, Shelby County supported Al Gore. Countywide, 141,756 people voted for Bush and 190,404 voted for Gore. Nader received 2,860 votes.


3 posted on 06/14/2005 1:10:49 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: sandiegocouple
PRC - People's Republic of California

Welcome to Free Republic. Hope this helps.

4 posted on 06/14/2005 1:22:36 PM PDT by TBarnett34 (What part of "up or down" do you RINOs not understand?)
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Thanks for the stats, So Cal Rocket. The only glitch I can see is that they're county-wide, and that would mean that they would include the ballots cast in Memphis, which, as a large city and given its demograhics, would collectively vote for whomever is on the Democratic card.


5 posted on 06/14/2005 1:26:18 PM PDT by sandiegocouple
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To: areafiftyone

Thank you; Glad to be here.


6 posted on 06/14/2005 1:27:04 PM PDT by sandiegocouple
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I'm writing from Germantown now. I live in Desoto County Mississippi, just below the state line. Property taxes are constantly being raised in Shelby county, so that is why I am in Desoto county. Google Olive Branch Mississippi. Desoto county went 72% Bush in the last election!


7 posted on 06/14/2005 1:27:41 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: sandiegocouple

check out Desoto county MS


8 posted on 06/14/2005 1:35:11 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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Here's some good news... the three closest Tennessee State Legislature House Districts to Germantown are Districts 83, 95, and 96... and all have elected Republicans.


9 posted on 06/14/2005 1:37:19 PM PDT by So Cal Rocket (Proud Member: Internet Pajama Wearers for Truth)
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To: sandiegocouple
Germantown is located in Shelby CO, it has it's own government seperate from the county's, it is the high class area of the county. Many homes well over 350K. Taxes are always going up in Shelby Co due to our school funding formula..Memphis gets 3 out of every 4 school dollars and our pols over spending on stupid things like Pyramids and ball parks along with the other boondoggle stuff all pols vote for.

Shelby Co is GOP terroity but we only have about 250,000 population vs Memphis 600,000 population which means Shelby Co is always listed as voting majority RAT.

Shelby Co gov't is seperate from Memphis' it has it's own mayor (RAT) and County Commission, slim 1 vote GOP majority.

We have NO INCOME TAX, which is a plus, while MS and AR have state IT's. You could choose Tipton Co which is just about 25 miles from Memphis if a drive is not a problem. Or Millington, which is 20 miles and has some nice homes from 150,000 and up (new construction). Or Fayette Co, again there is the 30 min drive to get into Memphis but property taxes are lower.

The nice shops are in Germantown, along with the biggest mall Wolf Chase.

Cost of Living is much lower in TN than where you are at of course. Conceal Carry permits are a breeze to obtain 8 hr safety course plus the fee and cost of the class..coming in at about $200 in total. It's a 4 year permit with a $50 renewal for 4 years. Car tags are about $101 if you live in the county. No inspection if you live in the county, but there is an inspection and fee if you live in Memphis.

10 posted on 06/14/2005 1:47:30 PM PDT by GailA (Glory be to GOD and his only son Jesus.)
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Keep in mind that the same $$ you live on in Kali will go many times further in TN especially your housing $$'s. Utilities aren't bad either. I have to assume you are use to a 30 min drive to work given you live in Kali so a drive that length would not be a problem would it? Memphis drivers are horrible when we have winter storms...usually ice, a inch of snow and there are tons and tons of wrecks and the drivers are inexperienced as we don't get them but every couple of years.


11 posted on 06/14/2005 1:53:23 PM PDT by GailA (Glory be to GOD and his only son Jesus.)
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I live in what we call "entry level Germantown" and really like it, but we moved here from central Jersey (with a 2 hour commute into NYC to boot), so go figure. Be advised, this area is not even on the same arm of the galaxy with San Diego.

Germantown is part of the Republican gerrymandered district that basically winds its way from eastern Shelby County up to Nashville along I-40. Pretty good rep. Though I don't like his politics, the Congressman for the neighboring district, which includes the rest of Shelby and almost all of Memphis, is Harold Ford, Jr., and he is one of the best in Congress at constituent representation.

Germantown's local politics is just that, local. The city council is pretty lame. A few years ago one city council member made the bizarre claim that we didn't need to widen some of our narrow streets because we were smarter than other people and knew how to drive. There has also been a recent controversy about a proposed law to ban cars parked in the driveway or garage doors left open. Not the sharpest knives in the drawer.

The schools have been good and Germantown Elementary is still excellent. Germantown Middle has been suffering through a complete clown of a principle who knows nothing about educating and even less about imposing discipline. Germantown High School is still excellent academically, but mandatory bussing is introducing a new element of violence that is a concern. My daughter has only one year left and I'm really glad we'll be out of there (hopefully) before anything really serious happens. She's heavily involved in the world class theater and TV production department. If you have children interested in a career in entertainment, either performing or behind the scenes, that alone could be a reason for having them attend GHS.

Were we moving here now I might be more likely to look at Collierville further east in Shelby County or the very northern tier of Mississippi. Amazing growth in Mississippi and the infusion of economic development from the casinos in Tunica is really astounding.

Also, do everything you can to avoid the area up north of Germantown, particularly up Germantown Parkway. Worse than any commute in CA. I know that's hard to believe, but it's true. Ugly.

Final advice. When you move here learn Poplar Avenue, because everything is somewhere in relation to Poplar. Then spend the rest of your life in Memphis learning to AVOID Poplar Avenue.


12 posted on 06/14/2005 1:55:44 PM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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Millington Star real estate page
13 posted on 06/14/2005 1:56:35 PM PDT by GailA (Glory be to GOD and his only son Jesus.)
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Come guys, even Dick Hackett moved to Desoto county lol.


14 posted on 06/14/2005 2:04:21 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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To: Phsstpok

Excellent commentary and feedback by you and "GailA." Very insightful stuff... I hope more continues to flow in from other readers.

My wife and I are originally from upstate NY (near West Point) but I was stationed out here at Camp Pendleton after joining the Marine Corps. To make a long story short, I remained in San Diego after my EAS back in '94. San Diego has changed dramtically since then. So many more people. So much more traffic. You find significant garbage alonside the freeways now, and I'm talking about big stuff like old chairs, and other misc. furniture. The schools have gotten worse. There's plenty of John Kerry stickers on car bumbers here. It's turning into Los Angeles. And through all of this, the cost-of-living has skyrocketed out of site. It's always struck me as funny how something that's in an obvious state of decline somehow manages to increase it's cost of admission and/or value...and people still line up to pay it! The only people who tend to still be "hot" on San Diego are those new to it. For those who've been here a while and can recall the way it was, well, we're basically jumping ship; this is no way to live. Enough of the rant. Again, my "thanks" goes out to those who've taken the time to comment.


15 posted on 06/14/2005 2:21:04 PM PDT by sandiegocouple
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You do have humidity there right? If not prepare yourself.


16 posted on 06/14/2005 2:27:18 PM PDT by Sybeck1 (chance is the “magic wand to make not only rabbits but entire universes appear out of nothing.”)
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We had it back in upstate NY during the summers, although it really couldn't compare to the 6 months I spent as part of a Marine Detachment at Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama. It was 95 degrees with 90% humidity daily during the summer time in Huntsville. Germantown should be about the same, give or take.

Here in San Diego, it's pretty dry unless you're within 2 miles of the coast.


17 posted on 06/14/2005 2:51:20 PM PDT by sandiegocouple
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To: Sybeck1

We had it back in upstate NY during the summers, although it really couldn't compare to the 6 months I spent as part of a Marine Detachment at Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama. It was 95 degrees with 90% humidity daily during the summer time in Huntsville. Germantown should be about the same, give or take.

Here in San Diego, it's pretty dry unless you're within 2 miles of the coast.


18 posted on 06/14/2005 2:52:51 PM PDT by sandiegocouple
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We have about 58 rain days. Hummidty is a problem for newcomers. So far it's been nice, but wait 5 mins and it will change as the saying goes. Most of the Tornadoes we get seem to hit Tipton Co. Like most southern cities which receive little snowfall Memphis is woefully under prepared to handle it. It has imporved vastly since we moved here 18 years ago.

Memphis is a dirty city, plenty of dumping of items like you described along the road ways. This must be a thing that goes with larger cities. Millington is clean I'll say that. We have pick up of those items if you put them out on trash day. Millington is a Navy base town, still is a small town pop is about 10,000. It is set to grow because the base is getting about 1,000 new personel according to the BRAC findings.

The only sound advice I will give is DO NOT live inside the Memphis city limits, you get socked with Memphis & Shelby Co property taxes and they are WHOPPERS nearly $9 for the 2. 25% per $100 of assessed value if I remember correctly. Memphis schools are the PITS, avoid them. Shelby Co schools are better, but still not the quality of a good private school. Get a CCW permit ASAP if you intend to spend much time in Memphis, carjackings are all to common. Drive with locked doors. Regardless the cost of living is much, much lower here than any where in Kali.

If you choose AR or MS you get stuck with a 30 min drive and a State IT. If you choose one of the neighboring TN counties to Memphis you get the 30 min drive MINUS the State IT, which would mean a 3-6% increase in salary for your family depending on what you currently pay out for a state IT.

The Regional Medical Center (The Med) has a first class trauma center which the MS & AR send their critical patients to.

You will find more BUSH stickers than SKerry stickers in Germantown. GOP campaign HQ was in G'town.

Our grocery stores double coupons up to 60 cents.

19 posted on 06/14/2005 4:48:30 PM PDT by GailA (Glory be to GOD and his only son Jesus.)
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I'm sorry, but The Point isn't 'upstate NY.' Upstate is places like Albany, Binghamton or Syracuse. West Point is the Hudson River Valley, perhaps the most beautiful part of New England (OK, maybe Concord at the peak of fall leaves, but nothing less). I grew up in Scarsdale and dearly loved our trips up the Hudson, the visits to The Point, watching the Long Grey Line marching on the parade grounds, visits to Bear Mountain, etc. I'm of Scottish origin and I firmly believe that the Hudson River Valley just looks like HOME.

I don't know SD, but my nephew and niece both attended SD State and I've learned of it from them. I know the bay area from five years there myself (77 to 82) plus my parents and my sister's family living in Palo Alto for the last decade or so. My nephew (same one from SD State) is just taking a leave from LAPD (he sold his book, including the movie rights!) so I have some links to the Southland.

Memphis / Germantown isn't anything like any of that.

It is, however, a great place to raise kids.

It is also a place that will frustrate anyone with a modicum of political sophistication no end. You will learn to hate the phrase/attitude "we're just little old Memphis" whenever you talk about solving a political problem. The most offensive thing is the black inner city power base and their reaction to rampant and obvious corruption. They point (legitimately) to decades of white corruption by Boss Crump and say "now it's our turn." Fortunately the power base that is growing up in the black community around the county mayor, as opposed to the city mayor, is emerging as a very reasonable alternative. Harold Ford Jr. is making a very clean break from his psychotic older generation (primarily uncle John) and could be a very interesting and attractive alternative to "politics as usual."

And as to your Marine association, my oldest son is at Quantico in OCS as we speak. He has a year to go at Texas A&M before taking up his commission (assuming he does OK at OCS) and is seriously talking about career. He's really good at languages and is even a family legacy with The Agency, so I have great hopes he'll end up at Monterey or Langley. Of course he wants to be "down in the weeds" and is VERY involved with Force Recon. What is it with Marines?

When you arrive I'll be pleased to show you the best places for Barbecue, as well as a few places to avoid. For real, important, info about Memphis I'll stear you to my wife, who is truly plugged in (g).

20 posted on 06/14/2005 4:53:46 PM PDT by Phsstpok (There are lies, damned lies, statistics and presentation graphics, in descending order of truth)
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