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You Will Be Very Shocked When You Can’t Use Your Gas Car
Independent Sentinel ^ | March 27, 2024 | M Dowling

Posted on 03/28/2024 6:26:10 AM PDT by Red Badger

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To: ConservativeWarrior

SAW THEM.........................


61 posted on 03/28/2024 7:25:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

A bunch of somebody’s think they are going to make a whole lot of money by investing in this = creating an entirely new transportation system. Maybe they will. Maybe that’s what they want: to destroy our free enterprise system, to destroy our freedoms, to destroy us. Now we can join the New World Order and live like other 3rd world countries.

Power and control- do what you have to do to get it.


62 posted on 03/28/2024 7:29:03 AM PDT by GTM01
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To: AZJeep

Yep, this only affects new car sales, USED ICE vehicles will still be there for everyone.

Fear porn hysteria articles kinda bury that fact


63 posted on 03/28/2024 7:31:08 AM PDT by baclava
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To: Thank You Rush

who gets to pay for the electric vehicles of the UNDERPRIVILEGED?

*******

Just a guess on my part but I’d say the same ones
that are paying most of the funding today. Nothing
changes that much, imo.


64 posted on 03/28/2024 7:39:22 AM PDT by deport
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To: Red Badger
Maryland, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York

All of them filled to the brim with commuters driving an hour plus each way.

Figures Maryland would be one of the herd of extra-stupid sheep.

65 posted on 03/28/2024 7:39:32 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: Red Badger

They will be really shock when these power mad Democrats begin being voted out of office.

There is a backlash coming.


66 posted on 03/28/2024 7:39:50 AM PDT by CIB-173RDABN (I am not an expert in anything, and my opinion is just that, an opinion. I may be wrong.)
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To: kawhill

Don’t kid yourself...Deere and Co. would LOVE to see every agricultural vehicle forced to be replaced by electric models.


67 posted on 03/28/2024 7:43:10 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: Bob434
How much would,one have to drive a $60,000 ev to make up for gas $$ savings? Can get a gas vehicle of similar build quality for around $20,000. Also, from what I understand, tires last only about 8,000 miles or so on evs (not sure why really). Seems like that would add more $$ to an evs overall yearly cost compared to gas cars which get around 30,000 or more miles on set of tires

I did the math 2 years ago when it was time to replace my wife's old gas crossover anyway. Here's what I was looking at then.

$10K to get a used crossover with less than 100K miles getting 15mpg. $45K for a new gas crossover that would get probably real world 25mpg. $55K for a new EV crossover without the luxury extras, plus another $2K to add a home charger, that would get 3.5 miles/kWh, minus the $7,500 EV tax credit and call it $50K for the EV.

Gas was $5/gallon back then, but I expected it to go down to about $3.50/gallon, so I went with that. But let's go with $3/gallon since that's what I have locally (translation: it's an election year so Biden's handlers are letting energy go down temporarily). If I had gotten the $45K gas crossover getting 30mpg, drove it 12K miles per year, getting $65 oil changes every 5K miles, it'd cost $1,584 annually to drive it. But my EV crossover would cost $549 on my power bill (16 cents per kW) to drive it 12K miles (pretending I don't have solar providing 80% of my power homemade). A difference of $1,000 per year. But change that to 14K miles and the difference is $1,200/year. So in 10 years you save $12K. Of course if gas goes up again the savings is more. IMHO, that makes up for replacing the battery at 10-12 years (as long as you don't get an EV with expensive battery replacement).

As far as tire wear goes, my EV crossover weighs 10% more than the gas crossover it replaced, and 5% less than our gas pickup. The tire wear on the EV seems to confirm that. Plus with the EV doing most braking through regen braking, the brake pads wear less. So I counted the 10% more in tire expense more than made up for in lower brake expense.

At least that's my experience (we drove ours 26K miles last year, with 16K miles charged at home). I don't recommend EV's for everyone. And I'm certainly against the Dims' forcing and incentivizing EV's. But it's safe to say that in a free market there are use cases where an EV makes sense.

68 posted on 03/28/2024 7:55:43 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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Maybe there’s a profit to be made here. Manufacturing and selling really long extension cords so I can charge my 200 horsepower electric tractor in the field. Or maybe Joe Biden can give me some of his “Build Back Better” program money to install solar panels and charging stations in my fields. Still going to need a really long extension cord if I’m 300 yards away from a charging station.


69 posted on 03/28/2024 8:09:51 AM PDT by kawhill (kawhill)
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To: Tell It Right

[[So I counted the 10% more in tire expense more than made up for in lower brake expense. ]]

Good point- there are usually pros and cons about. MOst things-

I’m not agaisnt em, but sure don’t wanna be forced to buy one. With my luck I’d buy a lemon and have to replace the battery packs @ about $20,000 a pop every few years. Might be better off buying a used ev at that point if i were to get one.

The other problem though is living where it gets very cold and runni g hewter, draining the battery- and then sweltering in the summer because ac drains the batteries. Would be nice if they could create a small really fuel efficient engine tO run heater and air and any extra peripherals while still running on electric propulsion.

F-1 racing cars have a system where tHey harvest their braking power to recharge the car’s energy in the battery, but not sure if that could be done with lithium, batteries too.

Lots of things to work out before evs are ready for prime time, if at all. For summer driving, short distances, buying used might be the easy to go, but I’ll stick with gas as it is tried and true now.


70 posted on 03/28/2024 8:14:23 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: maddog55

So 8 states will show the rest of the US what a stupid azz idea it is to ban gas vehicles and depend solely on the other 42 states to supply them with everything.

*****************************************************

What we have is 55 entities, fifty states and 5 inhabited territories, collectively forming 55 Science Projects.

The eight stupid Science Projects will be the object lesson for everyone else.


71 posted on 03/28/2024 8:16:04 AM PDT by dagunk
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To: Red Badger

I’ll be curious to see how they get their food. And other supplies trucked into their states.


72 posted on 03/28/2024 8:25:52 AM PDT by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: roving

Uber Eats...................


73 posted on 03/28/2024 8:26:38 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Red Badger

Canada’s PM Trudeau is bringing in a 23% carbon tax April 1 that no one wants , it’s like Trudeau is the only one on his street trying to save water by not watering his lawn while everyone else waters theirs 24 hours a day ,LOL


74 posted on 03/28/2024 8:26:46 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: Red Badger

“You Will Be Very Shocked When You Can’t Use Your Gas Car”

Someone else will be even more “shocked”!😎


75 posted on 03/28/2024 8:27:57 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: CIB-173RDABN

“They will be really shock when these power mad Democrats begin being voted out of office.”

Democrat voters can’t change...they are hard wired. If they could, it would have happened a long time ago.


76 posted on 03/28/2024 8:35:58 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: Bob434
The other problem though is living where it gets very cold and runni g hewter, draining the battery- and then sweltering in the summer because ac drains the batteries.

FWIW, my 3.5 miles/kWh metric is based on my results, including running the A/C in hot Alabama (as well as headlights and then in the winter running the heater). On a spring day my local driving is closer to 4.5 miles/kWh. But in the real world I have to run the AC some and the heater some and the headlights, just like gas cars in the real world don't get their stated mpg. Also, there's the fact that some of my local charging is for highway miles. Part of that is because I live in a somewhat rural area and I drive 75mph on a highway for about 7 miles one-way when I go to town. And part of that is when I go on long trips and drive 80mph on the interstate, the first leg of that trip was charged at home. All of that narrows down to me getting 3.5 miles/kWh in the real world.

One of the main reasons I got an EV is because, since we need 2 cars anyway, having one of them an EV and one of them a gas car gives us some diversification in our energy dependencies. If the Dims make gas too expensive and hard to come by, we'll take our trips in the EV. If the Dims make the grid less dependable or too expensive, we'll do most of our trips in the gas truck. If the Dims mess up both gas and the grid then it'll mess up our long trips, but we can at least do local driving in the EV charged by home solar.

I understand why some people do prepping. My version of prepping isn't to try to survive in a Mad Max style dystopia and living on a year's worth of stored food and water. That type of scenario may or may not come. What I see happening is the left trying to control us with more of a slow-boil-kills-the-frog approach, and they've chosen energy as their favorite weapon. By making our home and transportation mostly energy self-reliant, my wife and I are hopefully in a good position to be comfortable in retirement while we resist the left's demand for us to reduce our freedoms.

77 posted on 03/28/2024 8:39:34 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Red Badger

New Jersey is going to face a mass wave of unemployed gas station attendants...unless of course they ban EV owners from plugging in their own vehicles at charging stations.


78 posted on 03/28/2024 8:40:38 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack
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To: Joe 6-pack

New Jersey is going to face a mass wave of unemployed gas station attendants????...................What is this? 1950?..............


79 posted on 03/28/2024 8:54:18 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: Tell It Right
What made you want to by an EV car?   Techno nerd with a new toy to see what it was like?   The smooth zero to sixty in an EV car?
80 posted on 03/28/2024 9:04:32 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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