Posted on 02/22/2024 8:52:25 AM PST by marktwain
Washington State has been pushing for more infringements of Second Amendment rights for several years. SB 5444 is a bill that follows New York, California, and New Jersey in expanding “sensitive locations” as a way to infringe on Second Amendment rights. The current law restricts carry in courtrooms, jails, and secure areas of airports. SB 5444 expands the ban on the carry of weapons to libraries, zoos, aquariums, and, especially, “transit stations” or “transit facilities.”
Transit stations or transit facilities are defined to include bus stops, shelters, and all properties that are by a “transit authority” for the purpose of providing transportation services.
An inside source has informed AmmoLand that the bill is going to pass. It is a bad bill that aims directly at the exercise of Second Amendment rights. It is aimed at people who use public transport, which generally means people of modest means. This correspondent expects there will be a challenge in the courts. In 2016, Justice Charles K. Wiggins wrote a terrible decision at the Washington State Supreme Court, saying knives were not protected by the Second Amendment if they were not designed as “weapons.” This law aims at knives as weapons. Heads the People lose Second Amendment rights; Tails State government increases infringements on the Second Amendment.
It is better if such bills can be killed. Barring a direct defeat, some things can be gained if they can be mitigated. Doug Ritter of Knife Rights has worked tirelessly to remove infringements on the exercise of the carry of knives under the Second Amendment. Doug has informed me there is a possibility of taking “knives” out of Washington State bill SB 5444. To those readers who live in Washington State, this is an opportunity to mitigate a very bad bill.
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Once the bill is signed into law, lawsuits will be filed.
SB 5444 is a bill that follows New York, California, and New Jersey in expanding “sensitive locations”
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I seem to remember a female who had secured her handgun in a ‘sensitive location’.
Does this bill cover that situation?
ALL DemocRAT women are ghastly, ugly crones who are as stupid as they are ugly. McGhastly is just one of the many.
The carrying of weapons by civilians was left in place by the founders in the Constitution because there was so little amounts of law enforcement people to protect citizens. And as far up as militias was included in that thought.
So until the government can guarantee that protection while they are defunding and laying off and culling police, then the opportunity and need for protection continues and in many cases increases. The governments take on that responsibility, and arfe paid to do it, and have failed to either stop the violence or get the people to buy into trying to blame the honest gun owners for it.
But they keep trying to limit the ownership of protection partially because it is from them. And bills like this rub the public the wrong way. But they have king county and anything from anyone else to back them. It’ll pass. And then we wait for the next destruction of protection.
Many remember CHAZ, or CHOP, up here so we have first hand experience as to how far it can go. The police couldn’t stop it, just limit it...kind of. And they were lucky, it could have expanded and many could have been killed. And it’s bills like this that create the opportunty for a return engagment they, again, won’t be able to control and this time possibly even contain. And you can easily replace the word possibly with likely.
wy69
And Belltown will be much safer because the thugs will be so afraid of these new laws they will drop their stolen handguns for dandelion flowers.
OK, I live in the Soviet of Washington. Those that don't live here need to understand two important things. First, in a recent initiative, the majority of voters decided at a tubular magazine 22 rim fire semiautomatic rifle is now legally defined as an assault weapon or weapon of war. That is the mentality of the voters in this state. Second, you need to understand that State Supreme Court Justices are elected officials, yes elected by the same ultra liberal voters who vote from anti-second Amendment legislators.
Actually, judges are even worse, they are usually temporarily appointed to the unexpired term of a retiring justice either by an ultra-liberal Bar Association, or as a Democratic Party favor to a loyal political hack. Then they run as an experienced independent and more reasonable candidates get branded as inexperienced and the sheep vote in the liberal judges. That is why there are few legal challenges in State Court to violations of the State Constitution's equivalent to the second amendment. Again, it would be a kangaroo court, so few want to take on issues. Most hope for federal courts to right the wrong.
Now we get to the interesting part. The version of this legislation that I read, exempted those with concealed carry licenses from much of the sensitive area legislation. A big part of the bill I read was about restricting open carry or as some would call Constitutional Carry.
When I look at my fellow travelers within the Soviet of Washington who don't know the difference between a semi-automatic tubular fed 22 LR that I might have used at a Scouting camp in my youth or a military fully automatic Assault Rifle, I can understand that if they see someone open carrying on a public bus might make them quite uncomfortable. Does that mean someone's rights under the bill of rights should be forfeited? No, but it does make sense that legislators and State judges would not want to loose their paychecks and influence.
You know... We have GUNS. Supposedly... to deter stuff EXACTLY like this...
Instead of hot and cold running lawsuits... Why don’t we just summon our inner Patrick Henry?
“An honest statesman need not fear an armed populace’’- Thomas Jefferson.
““An honest statesman need not fear an armed populace’’- Thomas Jefferson.”
Wish it was that easy. The US is not the same place it was in colonial times. The bad guys are better armed, more plentiful, and better equipped to supply the populous that is doing idiotic things with the fire power to do the bad things.
Places like Chicago, Seattle, Memphis, St. Louis, and many other cities are being employed with crime far beyond anything in our history as a whole. Drugs, weapons, and violence are destroying the areas they appear and people are dying with it. Our law enforcement is incapable of stopping it with the lack of numbers and funding it currently has. And our politicians are feeding it.
In time, it is going to go back to the 1950’s where people are goung to be given a chance to conform to society, or society is going to take them out, not the law. And that is not far off at this point as law enforcement is not only not getting it done, but is not being allowed to try.
wy69
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