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Di Leo: Those EV Shortcomings Aren't Shortcomings At All
American Thinker ^ | August 17, AD 2023 | John F Di Leo

Posted on 08/17/2023 6:11:57 PM PDT by jfd1776

Wherever we drive nowadays, we see electric vehicles (EVs) amid the normal internal combustion cars and hybrids.

Maybe one in ten, maybe one in twenty, maybe one in a hundred. It all depends on where we live and where we go.

They are no longer the noticeable rarity they were just a few years ago; you no longer turn your head in surprise when you see that Tesla logo beside you.

The modern Left has a dream – that soon, very soon, every vehicle in the world will be electric, running on a heavy, cobalt-laden, lithium battery that needs to be charged up somewhere with electricity derived from an out-of-sight coal plant.

Every few trips, we old-fashioned ICE-drivers stop at a gas station for a quick fill-up. It takes two or three minutes, maybe five or six if we need to go into the store for a soda or a coffee; then we’re back on the road.

We rarely see the EVs charging up while we fill our normal cars with fuel. It takes too long, so they don’t usually do it at the gas station.

The EV’s current average, we are told, is eight hours to a “full charge,” whatever that means. It might be a couple hundred miles, maybe less, maybe more. Some chargers charge faster, some vehicles take longer. If it’s like any other kind of rechargeable battery (and they’re too new to be sure, but it makes sense), then as each battery ages, it will take longer and longer to charge up, and the mileage per charge will slowly decrease. That’s just how batteries work...

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


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Sorry about this. I didn't really get into the meat of the article until a few paragraphs in, and we can't excerpt that much of an American Thinker piece so I need to ask you to trust me and follow the link.

I think that some of these points have been known all along, but my goal in writing this one was to paint a picture that I don't think we usually think of at all.

We think about where EV batteries come from, we think about the insufficiency of the grid, we think of the cost and the subsidies... and the general inconvenience beyond the daily commute.

But there's another issue that I don't think we talk about enough, and I believe we need to. So please give it a read. Thank you.

1 posted on 08/17/2023 6:11:58 PM PDT by jfd1776
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One thing that might be a shortcoming is that when the Rat Party succeeds in shutting down every coal fired,gas fired,oil fired and nuclear power plant...which they've promised to do...there might be a problem charging 20 million EVs every night.
2 posted on 08/17/2023 6:19:44 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Two Words: BANANA REPUBLIC!)
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No thanks. Anyone who would say the following cannot be trusted: “The EV’s current average, we are told, is eight hours to a “full charge,” whatever that means.”

It’s sort of true: It does take eight hours to reach full charge on a household charger. It’s desperately misleading, though: You can get an 80% charge in fifteen minutes.


3 posted on 08/17/2023 6:19:51 PM PDT by dangus
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To: jfd1776

Bookmark


4 posted on 08/17/2023 6:22:46 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog. )
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To: jfd1776

We live in N. California which probably has more EV cars than most areas.

A couple of years ago we gave my Honda Ridgeline to a younger family member which left us with a 20 year old Lexus, still in good shape and running order.

We can exist very well with one car, and we thought about EV’s and decided to give the extra costs of owning an EV to our charities and family members.

My wife doesn’t want to mess with the math needed to make sure your EV can get you where you want to go and back. She has me to keep her Lexus supplied with gasoline.

When we have a typical California power failure, that seals the “not yet” re any EV.


5 posted on 08/17/2023 6:34:41 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Send Asylum Seekers to empty college dorms/class rooms in NY/NJ/Mass/West Point & NE blue citiesl)
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When 8700 cars plug in at 8AM, what happens in Arlington?

6 posted on 08/17/2023 6:37:56 PM PDT by Jim Noble (He who saves the nation breaks no law)
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“Thermal runaway is nearly a chemical impossibility with LiFePO4”

“LiFePO4 is the safest, most chemically stable battery on the consumer market. It would require extreme negligence or willful abuse to cause a fire in one of these batteries.”

https://offgridham.com/2016/03/about-lifepo4-batteries/

“LiFePO4 also performs poorly under 32º F, so plan accordingly if you intend to operate in cold conditions.”


7 posted on 08/17/2023 6:41:46 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
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How many street chargers are needed for Manhattan, Brooklyn, and the Bronx? And with alternate-side-of-the-street parking, who pays?

8 posted on 08/17/2023 6:43:46 PM PDT by Jim Noble (He who saves the nation breaks no law)
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“How many street chargers are needed for Manhattan, Brooklyn, and the Bronx? And with alternate-side-of-the-street parking, who pays?”

Not to mention how many of those chargers will be undisturbed for more than a week?


9 posted on 08/17/2023 6:47:59 PM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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To: jfd1776

Then there's Disney...

10 posted on 08/17/2023 6:50:44 PM PDT by Jim Noble (He who saves the nation breaks no law)
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Not to mention how many of those chargers will be undisturbed for more than a week?

Yes, I understand this is a big problem in the Bay Area.

11 posted on 08/17/2023 6:52:13 PM PDT by Jim Noble (He who saves the nation breaks no law)
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To: Grampa Dave

Can you guys install those whole house backup generators that run on propane/natural gas? Because then you would still be in business for power and charging.


12 posted on 08/17/2023 6:59:05 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: jfd1776

My most recent trip to DC, imperial city, I didn’t see ONE EV.


13 posted on 08/17/2023 7:03:51 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...)
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“When 8700 cars plug in at 8AM, what happens in Arlington?”

Cars in spaces 1, 11, 21, 31...8691 charge for six minutes.

Then cars in spaces 2, 12, 22, 32...8692 charge for six minutes.

The process would actually be more complex.


14 posted on 08/17/2023 7:10:18 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
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If you look to where electric chargers are, you’ll often see EVs.

My local library has two chargers and usually two EVs hooked up.


15 posted on 08/17/2023 7:12:27 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
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“Conservative Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) is a longtime Tesla owner who takes credit for having the first electric charging stations installed on Capitol Hill.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2023/07/30/lawmakers-drive-electric-vehicle-00108833

The other lawmaker drivers are Democrats.


16 posted on 08/17/2023 7:18:49 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
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To: Jim Noble

“Apple provides free charging at Apple park and several other offices in the Bay Area. May be in other areas too. They get you a ChargePoint account that lets you use their private chargers. The chargers are not super chargers. There are plenty of people who park in the morning to charge and don’t move their cars the rest of the day. Finding an available charger used to require some luck and checking around lunch time. The waitlist system wasn’t implemented everywhere at least when I was there.”

https://www.teamblind.com/post/EV-Amenities-at-Apple-Cupertino-cWedNvbB


17 posted on 08/17/2023 7:27:16 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
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To: jfd1776

That’s a hard no.

Even if I have to brew my own petrol in my backyard - heck, even if I have to yank the motor and install a coal-fired boiler I will never submit.


18 posted on 08/17/2023 7:27:41 PM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now... )
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“$1 per hour from 6 a.m. to 4 p.m. and $0.50 per hour at all other times”

“Number of ports 54...16...47 5”

https://transportation.stanford.edu/ev-charging-station-location-and-fees-table


19 posted on 08/17/2023 7:32:36 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
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“The cost for the new Level 3 chargers is $0.40/kWh, and $18 per hour 20 mins after charging stops.”

https://www.disneydining.com/charging-your-electric-vehicle-at-disney-just-got-easier-jb1/


20 posted on 08/17/2023 7:40:07 PM PDT by Brian Griffin (ICCPR Article 15 No one shall be held guilty…on account of any act…not a criminal act...at the time…)
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