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Putin Orders Reality Check – No Ukrainians Left On The Battlefield, No Sovereignty In Kiev
Dances with Bears ^ | 24 June23 | John Helmer

Posted on 06/25/2023 6:39:29 PM PDT by delta7

In brief statements issued late last week in Moscow – their significance missed in the western press — President Vladimir Putin ordered a reality check of Russia’s war strategy. He then answered himself by declaring the war will be over when no Ukrainian army will be left on the battlefield, nor NATO weapons.

The Foreign Ministry answered by pointing out that Russia does not recognize there is a legal Ukrainian state because the reality is that the mutual recognition treaty between Russia and the Ukraine was cancelled by Presidents Petro Poroshenko and Vladimir Zelensky in 2018 and 2019. “We can conclude,” Putin said at the Security Council meeting on Thursday morning, “that they can certainly send in additional equipment, but the mobilisation reserve is not unlimited. And Ukraine’s Western allies really seem determined to fight with Russia to the last Ukrainian. At the same time, we must proceed from the fact that the enemy’s offensive potential has not been exhausted; they may have strategic reserves yet unused, and I ask you to keep this in mind when making fighting strategies. You need to proceed from reality.”

Putin was following by a few hours the statement by the Foreign Ministry that Russia does not recognize the legal sovereignty of the regime in Kiev, and that following the cancellation of the treaty between the Ukraine and Russia in 2019, there will be no Ukrainian state left to sign an end-of-war agreement.

At her weekly briefing of reporters, the ministry spokesman Maria Zakharova, was asked “when will Russia initiate a legal procedure to terminate the bilateral treaty with Ukraine on its sovereignty?” Zakharova answered: “The procedure for terminating the bilateral treaty with Ukraine on its sovereignty is hampered by the absence of such a treaty. In Article 1 of the Treaty on the Principles of Relations between the RSFSR and the Ukrainian SSR of November 19, 1990, the two republics recognised each other as ‘sovereign states.’ The 1990 treaty was then replaced by the Treaty on Friendship, Cooperation, and Partnership between the Russian Federation and Ukraine of May 31, 1997 (Article 39), which was denounced by Ukraine and terminated on April 1, 2019.”

No army, no state. But the war will continue because it is the one between the US and the NATO powers and Russia. That too will have an ending, but longer.

“If [NATO Secretary-General] Mr Stoltenberg again says on behalf of NATO that they are against freezing the conflict in Ukraine,” Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on June 21, “this means that they want to fight. So let them fight. We are ready for that. We realised NATO’s true goals in Ukraine some time ago as their plans took shape over the years that followed the coup. Today, NATO is attempting to implement them…they are directly involved in the hybrid and hot war declared on Russia.”

I am reminded, Lavrov added, “of a Soviet-era joke noting that the Soviet Union is located too close to US military bases.” The Soviet Union was dismantled, but the war continues against Russia. It will end when the US is pushed to a safe distance. How safe, Putin asked Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu to explain in answer to two questions?

Putin’s question: “we know that the enemy is to receive additional Western equipment. What does the Defence Ministry think about threats in this connection?” Shoigu’s answer: “All arsenals, accumulated by the Soviet Union and countries of the former socialist bloc, have now been virtually depleted. We can say the same about former Ukrainian resources… the amount, due to be delivered throughout 2023, as well as those weapons that have already been delivered, will not seriously affect the course of hostilities. Additionally, most of the armoured vehicles and fighting vehicles belong to the previous generation, or even to an earlier generation. On the one hand, their armour is weak and ineffective, compared to modern equipment. Mr President, we do not see any threats here.”

Question: “Mr Shoigu, what is the percentage of Western equipment out of the equipment that has been destroyed since June 4, which Mr Patrushev has just reported giving generalised data? Approximately.” Answer: “Of the 246 tanks destroyed, 13 were Western made. At the same time, it should be noted that, if we consider the equipment that was delivered, tanks in particular: 81 Western-made tanks have been delivered. Of the 81 Western tanks, 13 [16%] have been destroyed. Of the armoured fighting vehicles, 59 Western ones have been destroyed. To date, Western countries have supplied Ukraine with an estimated 109 Bradley armoured fighting vehicles. Of the 109 BFVs, 18 [17%] have been destroyed. Overall, 59 Western-made armoured vehicles have been destroyed. As for field artillery and guns, here, of course, I can estimate right away that out of the 48 pieces destroyed, about 30 percent were Western made.”

The “reality”, Putin concluded publicly, not for Shoigu or the General Staff, is that the percentage of NATO weapons destroyed on the battlefield will rise sharply because “the enemy’s offensive potential has not been exhausted; they may have strategic reserves yet unused.” When those reserves are defeated, there will be neither NATO arms nor Ukrainian men left.

The significance of this re-tuning of Russia’s war aims was diverted for several hours by the Prigozhin affair. The return of the Wagner columns to their bases in Lugansk, the dissolution of Wagner by the Defense Ministry, and the exit of Prigozhin to house arrest in Belarus remove the distraction from the battlefield and the General Staff’s war strategy. If Prigozhin cannot bear the silence, the lack of access to the fortune he has accumulated, and his loss of freedom of movement, he may attempt a break-out to Africa, to plot his return to Russian politics. He will also be aware of the Lebed precedent – and the danger of taking helicopter rides.

Russian military sources believe the outcome of the one-armed rebellion will be salutary for the key decision-makers including Putin and Shoigu; least of all the General Staff and the chief, General Valery Gerasimov, who have come out of the affair with greater political leverage over the Kremlin. According to one Moscow source, “Now that the General Staff have saved the president, the latter will allow General Patience to continue doing its work, as Generals Iskander and Kinzhal seem to be doing theirs now.”…….


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Interesting figures on the Ukies Offensive losses.
1 posted on 06/25/2023 6:39:29 PM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Odres?


2 posted on 06/25/2023 6:45:10 PM PDT by packagingguy
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To: delta7

No wonder you think as you do, you seem to rely on the craziest sites you can find on the Internet.

Here is another article by your author at that site.

AMAZING PENTAGON WEAPON PENETRATES PUTIN’S BRAIN BEFORE HE WAS BORN – PRESIDENT REAGAN’S BRAIN SECRET CONFIRMED, PETRO POROSHENKO’S AND VICTORIA NULAND’S, TOO
“By John Helmer, Moscow

The latest release from the Pentagon in the psywar against Russia is a declassified report claiming to have penetrated the brain of President Vladimir Putin, while he was in utero.

The release appears to be from the same research group whose secret exploration of Ronald Reagan’s brain was leaked to Garry Trudeau, author of the Doonesbury comic strip, in October 1980, in the last weeks of the US presidential election when the incumbent Jimmy Carter was defeated by Reagan. The Pentagon reporting also acknowledges as a source of its expertise one of the creators of an American television series which was produced and broadcast by Rupert Murdoch’s 20th Century Fox between 2009 and 2011.

A Time Magazine interview of Putin as the “Person of the Year” for 2007 is revealed as the cover for a Pentagon-directed operation using special cameras to record Putin’s micro-muscular movements and verbalizations over several hours. Also exposed in the newly released papers is the covert engagement of Harvard University academic Timothy Colton, who was commissioned by the Pentagon’s top secret operation BODY LEADS to deploy at the annual Valdai Discussion Club between Russian offiicals and international academics and journalists. Colton’s Pentagon assignment at Valdai was to gather and interpret secret body and vocalization data on Putin, as well as on former president Dmitry Medvedev.

The television series, according to Fox, stars “Dr Cal Lightman, a deception expert whose uncanny ability to read facial expressions and body language makes him a virtual human polygraph.” Dr Brenda Connors, the uncanny expert on Putin’s brain for the Office of National Assessment (ONA) at the US Department of Defense, has produced a decade of secret reports, one in 2005 analyzing Putin’s “micro-facial
https://johnhelmer.net/amazing-pentagon-weapon-penetrates-putins-brain-before-he-was-born-president-reagans-brain-secret-confirmed-petro-poroshenkos-and-victoria-nulands-too/


3 posted on 06/25/2023 6:52:44 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: delta7

“When those reserves are defeated, there will be neither NATO arms nor Ukrainian men left. “

This much is certain: If Russia is able to decisively defeat the main thrust of the offensive, the war is essentially over.

Ukraine will then try to cut the best deal they can.


4 posted on 06/25/2023 6:53:06 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: delta7
looks like

The Coup Against Shoigu

has failed.

neoconneds are saddened.

5 posted on 06/25/2023 6:53:16 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: packagingguy
Odres

Spanish for wineskins. Can also mean drunks.

6 posted on 06/25/2023 6:54:45 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: packagingguy

Big talk for a guy who could only muster one tank for his May Day parade.


7 posted on 06/25/2023 6:55:14 PM PDT by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Chad C. Mulligan; packagingguy; delta7
Big talk for a guy who could only muster one tank for his May Day parade.

He wanted a contrast with next year's May Day parade, where row upon row of Leopard 2s and M1 Abrams will pass the reviewing stand.

8 posted on 06/25/2023 6:58:13 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: kiryandil

I see, Americans are supposed to give a $hit about shoigu?

Not a chance.


9 posted on 06/25/2023 6:59:18 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: delta7

Another from your author

MELANIA TRUMP AND SIGABA ALLOW PUTIN TO DECODE TRUMP = TRUMP TOO DEFECTIVE AND IMPOTENT TO MAKE OR KEEP AGREEMENTS, STATE DEPARTMENT WORKING GROUPS ARE LAST HOPE


10 posted on 06/25/2023 6:59:36 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Williams; JonPreston
Right over your head, as usual, Billys.

Carry on

11 posted on 06/25/2023 7:00:42 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: delta7

One of the more believable reads coming from either side lately.


12 posted on 06/25/2023 7:00:46 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: delta7

To read this is to know that Putin is a dangerous lunatic. Certainly a Hitler figure.


13 posted on 06/25/2023 7:03:00 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: delta7

Any confirmation of this from other sources?


14 posted on 06/25/2023 7:05:12 PM PDT by Petrosius
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To: windsorknot

Actually the wineskins is correct, but it also means bottles. According to the translation online app I used. 😋


15 posted on 06/25/2023 7:06:59 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: delta7
Putin Odres Reality Check

Are odres similar to ogres?

16 posted on 06/25/2023 7:08:06 PM PDT by ytrebil
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To: Williams

Yes, Putin came to power by mass murder (read David Satter) and he will stay there the same way if he is able to.


17 posted on 06/25/2023 7:13:50 PM PDT by devere
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To: packagingguy

Yeah. What does that mean?


18 posted on 06/25/2023 7:16:16 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots. )
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To: packagingguy

>>>Odres?

What do you say after drinking a shot of tequila and before digging into the nachos?


19 posted on 06/25/2023 7:19:37 PM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: delta7

Seems reasonable. Until the Neocons are seriously SPANKED, they will keep causing wars, as they have done in Ukraine. So, hopefully, the Neocons come to their senses and put an end to their war, or they may well be put out of business on the world stage.


20 posted on 06/25/2023 7:41:32 PM PDT by BobL
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