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Why are people homophobic (other than religion or “because it’s bad”)? [exposing the perversion of language by supporters of perversion]
quora.com ^ | June 12, 2022 (latest revision) | daniel hamilton

Posted on 06/12/2022 10:15:01 AM PDT by daniel1212

First, your use of the term “homophobic” needs to be addressed. For while some people are driven by a irrational fear of homosexuals or of being one, that simply does not justify the wanton political use of the term as a psychological tactic designed to intimidate any and all who oppose homosexual relations and the promotion of homosexuality with its expressions, and even those who will not affirm it.

Instead, consistent with the abuse of the term, it is many of those who use the term and or affirm the promotion of homosexuality and is expression who are homophobic, since they are motivated into doing so out of fear of being labelled that term by those in the prohomosexual side.

But the term “homophobia” does not accurately define any and all persons who do not approve of homosexual relationships or homosexuals any more than a person is necessarily ombrophobia if he/she does not like going out in the rain, or anthophobic if he does not like flowers, and to label all who like to stay inside as agoraphobia would be wrong.

Nor are all those listed in endless but extensive lists of phobias necessarily a bad thing, but,

"A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder defined by a persistent and excessive fear of an object or situation...Those affected will go to great lengths to avoid the situation or object, to a degree greater than the actual danger posed. If the object or situation cannot be avoided, they experience significant distress." (Phobia - Wikipedia) "A phobia is an overwhelming and debilitating fear of an object, place, situation, feeling or animal." (Overview - Phobias) "A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder that causes an individual to experience extreme, irrational fear about a situation, living creature, place, or object." (Phobias: Symptoms, types, causes, and treatment)

“an intense, persistent, irrational fear of a specific object, activity, situation, or person that manifests in physical symptoms such as sweating, trembling, rapid heartbeat, or shortness of breath, and that motivates avoidance behavior." - Definition of phobia | Dictionary.com; "Phobia, an extreme, irrational fear of a specific object or situation." - Phobia | psychology; A phobia is a type of anxiety disorder. It is a strong, irrational fear of something that poses little or no real danger...People with phobias try to avoid what they are afraid of. If they cannot, they may experience Panic and fear Rapid heartbeat Shortness of breath Trembling A strong desire to get away. - Phobias | MentalHealth.gov; "phobia - an anxiety disorder characterized by extreme and irrational fear of simple things or social situations." - phobia.

And while it has come to be used more broadly, it actually means fear, not mere dislike. Etymologically,

"irrational fear, horror, or aversion; fear of an imaginary evil or undue fear of a real one," 1786, perhaps based on a similar use in French, abstracted from compounds in -phobia, the word-forming element from Greek phobos "fear, panic fear, terror, outward show of fear; object of fear or terror," originally "flight" (still the only sense in Homer), but it became the common word for "fear" via the notion of "panic flight" (compare phobein "put to flight; frighten"), from PIE root *bhegw- "to run" (source also of Lithuanian bėgu, bėgti "to flee;" Old Church Slavonic begu "flight," bezati "to flee, run;" Old Norse bekkr "a stream"). The psychological sense of "an abnormal or irrational fear" is attested by 1895. Hence also Phobos as the name of the inner satellite of Mars (discovered 1877) and named for Phobos, the personification of fear, in mythology a companion of Ares. - Origin and meaning of phobia by Online Etymology Dictionary

In contrast, by God's grace - and as a sinner saved by grace - I (as with many other evangelicals) for years I have sought to outreach and help all sorts of people, from Hell's Angels to homosexuals, and give a gospel tract (and sometimes food) but the latter especially tend to want to avoid such once they implicitly understand that the Biblical Christ represents a threat to their chosen lifestyle, though salvation from sin.

However, the term "homophobic" falls under "Non-medical, deterrent and political use" as the word is abused in assigning that label to any and all who oppose of even will not affirm homosexual relations and hold that the condition behind such is disordered.

And thus its typical use is indeed a psychological tactic designed to intimidate and silence opposition to the same - however conscientious - by placing them the defensive via charging them with being possessed by an irrational fear. Which plays off of a social phobia phobia, that of katagelophobia = fear of ridicule, being maligned by the prohomosexual lobby as being irrational, backwards, etc, and thus those who are intimidated by such could be the ones called homophobic.

And it is not simply some poster as me that objects to the use of homophobia, but scholars*

And which tactic follows (knowingly or not) the strategy set for in the book "After the Ball" years ago by two homosexual Harvard-trained graduates, Marshall Kirk (1957–2005), a researcher in neuropsychiatry, and Hunter Madsen (pen name Erastes Pill) whose social marketing advocated avoiding portraying gays as aggressive challengers, but as victims instead, while making all those who opposed them to be evil persecutors.

Associate all who oppose homosexuality with images of Klansmen demanding that gays be slaughtered, hysterical backwoods preachers, menacing punks, and a tour of Nazi concentration camps where homosexuals were tortured and gassed. Thus, "propagandistic advertisement can depict homophobic and homohating bigots as crude loudmouths..."[58] " It can show them being criticized, hated, shunned. It can depict gays experiencing horrific suffering as the direct result of homohatred-suffering of which even most bigots would be ashamed to be the cause. It can, in short, link homohating bigotry with all sorts of attributes the bigot would be ashamed to possess, and with social consequences he would find unpleasant and scary... our effect is achieved without reference to facts, logic, or proof."

Moreover, as for fear, there should be a healthy fear of the unhealthy effects of sodomy. For

according to the CDC (chart), in 2017 male to male sexual contact was the mode of transmission in 93% of new HIV cases among male youth aged 13 to 24, and MSM accounted for 82% of diagnoses among males and 70% of all new HIV diagnoses, and 2 out of every 3 diagnoses in the United States. Which is despite only representing approximately 4% of the male population). . Also, "transgender women [worldwide] are 49 times more likely to have HIV than other adults of reproductive age." (Transgender people)

Likewise is 2019:

Young gay and bisexual men accounted for 83% (6,385) of all new HIV diagnoses in people aged 13 to 24 in 2019, and 81% of diagnoses overall of HIV infection among Adolescents and Young Adults, and 92% of HIV infections among men aged 13 to 24 was attributed to male-to-male sexual contact:

And which practice is primarily responsible for more than 700,000 people with AIDS having died since the beginning of the epidemic - despite decades of attempting to tame it into being "safe." (Worldwide, 77.3 million people have contracted HIV and 35.4 million have died of AIDS-related illnesses since the beginning of the pandemic in 1981: https://health.usnews.com/conditions/hiv-aids/articles/hiv-statistics.)

Also, sodomy is one manner of fornication, and which sin is primarily responsible for one out of 5 Americans having a sexually transmitted infection. Which affect all others, at least finacially: "STIs and their complications amount to about $16 billion annually in direct medical costs. HIV imposes the largest financial burden, costing $12.6 billion in direct medical costs, followed by HPV at $1.7 billion, chlamydia at $156.7 million, gonorrhea at $162.1 million, and syphilis at $39.9 million." (https://cdn.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/STI-brief.pdf)

More.

*scholars such as Beverly A. Greene and Gregory M Herek in Lesbian and Gay Psychology (pp. 27,28) who stated:

...as Herek (1986a) notes, the term itself is unfortunate. Technically, homophobia means fear of sameness, yet its usage implies a fear of homosexuals. Although negativity toward gay men and lesbians is no doubt based on fear to some extent, the –phobia suffix implies a specific kind of fear—one that is irrational and characterized by a desire to remove oneself from the object of the fear. Because some people labeled homophobic not only fail to avoid homosexuals but also seek them out to harass and physically assault them, this term does not accurately rep-resent negativity toward gay persons (cf. Herek, 1986a). In addition, because such fear-based reactions to homosexuals appear to be more common among males than females (Herek, 1986b; Morin & Garfinkle, 1978), the term may be more applicable to heterosexual men than to heterosexual women. Another problem is that attitudes toward gay men and lesbians are likely to be multifaceted and complex (e.g., Millham, San Miguel, & Kel-logg, 1976; Plasek & Allard, 1984; Weinberger & Millham, 1979), and holding negative attitudes toward homosexuality likely serves different functions for different people (Herek, 1986a). Hence fear or aversion may comprise one component of beliefs about homosexuality, but other fac-tors are unquestionably important.

Several alternative terms have been offered to better reflect the ante-cedents of prejudicial attitudes toward gay men and lesbians and to sidestep the problems inherent with the term homophobia. These include homonegativism (Hudson & Ricketts, 1980), homosexism (Hansen, 1982), and heterosexism (Herek, 1986a). Unfortunately, none has gained wide-spread acceptance.

Then in in the Journal of applied Psychology, Gary Colwell wrote,

The charge of homophobia, indiscriminately made in a large part of our Western culture today, is ill conceived, illogical and false. This sweeping charge may be pictured as a triangle of informal logical fallacies. The more prominent side, the one which the general public encounters first, is what I shall call the fallacy of turning the tables: the rhetorical device of making the source of criticism the object of criticism. The other side of the charge is the fallacy of equivocation. The boundary of the term 'homophobia' is made so elastic that it can stretch around, not just phobias, but every kind of rational fear as well; and not just around every kind of fear, but also around every critical posture or idea that anyone may have about the practice of homosexuality. At the base of the charge, and undergirding the other two fallacies, is the fallacy of begging the question. A commitment to the complete acceptability of the practice of homosexuality enables its proponents to 'know' beforehand that all criticisms against it must originate in the defective psychology of the critic. (Journal of applied Psychology, Vol. 16, No. 3, 1999; Turning the Tables with 'Homophobia' on JSTOR)

Finally, etymology may tell us what a word means today, but that does not mean it is correct. Or that it’s use is, regardless of what Google reports.


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Thus is exposed the perversion of language by those who perverted what God has ordained*.

Moreover, consistent with liberal prohibitions against terms considered abusive, fostering hate, etc., then the Left is guilty of the same with its denigration of all based upon their (conservative) religion (a term now so broad as to include the officially “resolutely non-theistic” Satanic Temple). But of course, the often ambiguity of terms leaves them very open to and subjective interpretation

For instance, https://www.verizon.com/about/terms-conditions/terms-of-use for using Verizon’s websites states in its Terms of Use that,

If the use of a Site or Resource by you or anyone using your account, in Verizon's sole discretion, violates these Terms or any other Verizon agreement or policy, is objectionable or unlawful.. then... Verizon may suspend, deny or restrict your access to any Site or Resource...

you agree not to use the Sites (including by linking to the Sites), or any Resources, in any manner that:

is threatening, harassing, abusive, defamatory, slanderous, fraudulent... racially, ethnically or otherwise offensive, hateful or abusive;

1 posted on 06/12/2022 10:15:01 AM PDT by daniel1212
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To: daniel1212

You can’t not like something with these idiots calling you names


2 posted on 06/12/2022 10:17:14 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: daniel1212

I’m not homophobic, I am homonauseous. I am sick of hearing about gay pride and the like.


3 posted on 06/12/2022 10:18:07 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: daniel1212
More on,

The aforementioned book, After The Ball How America Will Conquer Its Fear & Hatred Of Gays In The 90s, is widely regarded as the handbook for the homosexual agenda, in which two homosexual Harvard-trained graduates, [60] Marshall Kirk (1957–2005), a researcher in neuropsychiatry, and Hunter Madsen (pen name Erastes Pill), who was schooled in social marketing, advocated avoiding portraying homosexuals as aggressive challengers, but as "victims" instead, while making all those who opposed them to be "evil persecutors". As a means of the latter, they used jamming, in which Christians, traditionalists, or anyone else who opposes the gay agenda are publicly smeared. Their strategy was based on the premise that, "In any campaign to win over the public, Gays must be portrayed as victims in need of protection so that straights will be inclined by reflex to adopt the role of protector. The purpose of victim imagery is to make straight people feel very uncomfortable."[61][62] Leftists also label Christians who support biblical marriage as "anti-gay," equating them with non-western Muslims who support stoning homosexuals.[63]

"Jamming" homo-hatred (disagreement with homosexual behaviors) was to be done by linking it to Nazi horror, advised Kirk and Madsen. Associate all who oppose homosexuality with images of Klansmen demanding that gays be slaughtered, hysterical backwoods preachers, menacing punks, and a tour of Nazi concentration camps where homosexuals were tortured and gassed. Thus, "propagandistic advertisement can depict homophobic and homohating bigots as crude loudmouths..."[64] " It can show them being criticized, hated, shunned. It can depict gays experiencing horrific suffering as the direct result of homohatred-suffering of which even most bigots would be ashamed to be the cause. It can, in short, link homohating bigotry with all sorts of attributes the bigot would be ashamed to possess, and with social consequences he would find unpleasant and scary... our effect is achieved without reference to facts, logic, or proof."[65]

Kirk and Madsen's open admission of their deceptive tactics is noted as most revealing: [O]ur effect is achieved without reference to facts, logic, or proof. "...the person's beliefs can be altered whether he is conscious of the attack or not"[67] “The campaign we outline in this book, though complex, depends centrally upon a program of unabashed propaganda, firmly grounded in long-established principles of psychology and advertising.”[68][69]

Similarly, author Robert Bauman additionally records: "It makes no difference that the ads are lies... because were using them to ethically good effect, to counter negative stereotypes that are every bit as much lies, and far more wicked ones."[70]

The need for Kirk and Madsen to engage in such manipulation may be seen as being due to their sober realization of the deleterious nature of the homosexual lifestyle. This includes sodomy being responsible for 81% of new HIV cases aged 13 and older among men - despite only representing approximately 4% of the male population - and 92% of new HIV among youth (2020), and (historically) a greatly increased incidence of other infectious diseases and premature death, and despite decades of attempting to subdue homoerotic practices into being "safe." [71]

“In short, the gay lifestyle - if such a chaos can, after all, legitimately be called a lifestyle - it just doesn’t work: it doesn’t serve the two functions for which all social framework evolve: to constrain people’s natural impulses to behave badly and to meet their natural needs. While it’s impossible to provide an exhaustive analytic list of all the root causes and aggravants of this failure, we can asseverate at least some of the major causes. Many have been dissected, above, as elements of the Ten Misbehaviors; it only remains to discuss the failure of the gay community to provide a viable alternative to the heterosexual family.”[72]

David Kupelian, author of The Marketing of Evil, describes Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen, stating,

Kirk and Madsen were not the kind of drooling activists that would burst into churches and throw condoms in the air. They were smart guys – very smart. Kirk, a Harvard-educated researcher in neuropsychiatry, worked with the Johns Hopkins Study of Mathematically Precocious Youth and designed aptitude tests for adults with 200+ IQs. Madsen, with a doctorate in politics from Harvard, was an expert on public persuasion tactics and social marketing.[73]

Marshall Kirk died in 2005 at the young age of 47.[74] The cause of death has not been publicly revealed.

Often cited as an early example of such tactics was the role of homosexual activists in persuading the American Psychiatric Association (APA) to remove homosexuality as a mental disorder from its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual Of Mental Disorders (DSM-II). Dr. Ronald Bayer, though being himself a pro-homosexual psychiatrist, described this removal as being the result of power politics, threats, and intimidation, rather than any new scientific discoveries.[75] In so doing, like slavery before it, the homosexual agenda is seen to threaten basic freedoms, principally the First Amendment.[76]

The charge of "homophobia" has been increasingly evidenced as being part of a means of intimidation used in pushing the Homosexual Agenda. Due to what homophobia has been made to denote, that of being a repressed homosexual, or possessing an irrational fear of being approached by homosexuals, or of being a "bigot" "persecuting" victims, the widespread use of the term "homophobic" attaches a powerful stigma to anyone who may even conscientiously oppose the practice of homosexuality, thus silencing many who might otherwise object to it.[77]

4 posted on 06/12/2022 10:18:15 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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I have no fear of sodomites - so not homophobic.

Maybe they should be hellphobic?

5 posted on 06/12/2022 10:19:14 AM PDT by politicket
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To: butlerweave

NOT skerred of them. Not agreeing with their choice doesn’t mean hating or fearing.


6 posted on 06/12/2022 10:19:30 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: daniel1212

Because its immoral.

Obviously its not the only form of immorality, but its immoral.

Besides immoral, it reflects a damaged psyche.


7 posted on 06/12/2022 10:19:34 AM PDT by marron
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To: daniel1212

It’s the disgust reflex and it is a natural.

The fact these degenerates want to call gay behavior SEEM “natural” while making the natural disgust reflex against homosexual behavior verboten.

PURE SATANIC INVERSION!


8 posted on 06/12/2022 10:19:36 AM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: politicket

i’m not phobic of faggots, I just find them gross


9 posted on 06/12/2022 10:19:53 AM PDT by max americana (Fired leftards at work since 2018 at every election just to see them cry. I hate them all.)
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To: daniel1212

I thought a phobia was a fear. Very interesting to me that if you disagree with something that they believe it becomes a phobia not a disagreement.


10 posted on 06/12/2022 10:20:26 AM PDT by Bigbrown
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To: politicket
Maybe they should be hellphobic?

You win the Internet today.

11 posted on 06/12/2022 10:21:17 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Scratch a leftist and you'll find a fascist )
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To: daniel1212

Speaking from a biological perspective, isn’t there something wrong with same-sex sex? Dogs, cats, horses and rabbits can figure it out, but HUMANS need to have sexual intercourse with the same sex? Isn’t that INCREDIBLY STUPID?!

Apart from wicked, which is a moral judgment, same-sex sex is like a guy a cop told me about who liked to jerk off in public using a Nike shoe - always Nike! Seems “Just Do It” appealed to him...but what he was doing was SAFER than what homosexuals do!


12 posted on 06/12/2022 10:21:46 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (We're a nation of feelings, not thoughts.)
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To: ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; BDParrish; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; mitch5501; MamaB; ...
Ping. God made man and women distinctively different yet uniquely compatible and complementary, and only joined them together in marriage - as the Lord Jesus Himself specified (Mt. 19:4–6) - and Scripture only condemns homosexual relations wherever they are manifestly dealt with.

Yet there is still room at the cross for all who will come to God in repentance and faith, and trust in the Divine Son of God sent by the Father, the risen Lord Jesus, to save them on His account, by His sinless shed blood, and thus be baptized and live for Him. (Acts 10:36-47) Thanks be to God.


13 posted on 06/12/2022 10:22:51 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: daniel1212

Genesis 19:27-28
King James Version

27 And Abraham gat up early in the morning to the place where he stood before the Lord:

28 And he looked toward Sodom and Gomorrah, and toward all the land of the plain, and beheld, and, lo, the smoke of the country went up as the smoke of a furnace.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2019%3A27-28&version=KJV


14 posted on 06/12/2022 10:24:44 AM PDT by SaveFerris (The Lord, The Christ and The Messiah: Jesus Christ of Nazareth - http://www.BiblicalJesusChrist.Com/)
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To: daniel1212

I think that my fear of what their perversions are doing to our culture is rational. Not a phobia at all. They simply do wickedness. Hoping they don’t do it in your face has been a colossal failure.


15 posted on 06/12/2022 10:24:46 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Black Ukrainian Coronavirus Vaccine Abortions Matter. It’s called democracy, folks. It’s who we are.)
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To: politicket
"I have no fear of sodomites - so not homophobic. "

Thus the perversion of the word is exposed.

" Maybe they should be hellphobic?"

If only they were, as the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

16 posted on 06/12/2022 10:26:27 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: politicket

Good one.


17 posted on 06/12/2022 10:26:46 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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To: rktman
" NOT skerred of them. Not agreeing with their choice doesn’t mean hating or fearing. " Indeed, as the article elaborates.
18 posted on 06/12/2022 10:27:21 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: GraceG
"PURE SATANIC INVERSION!"

Indeed, as in quest for power via deception of man, the devil works to pervert all that God ordained,

The Big Picture: who is really running the show in the culture war, and its nature and trajectory

19 posted on 06/12/2022 10:29:41 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: butlerweave

Just mention that homosexuality is nature’s way of ending a defective genetic line. Nature wants to reproduce to continue the genetic continuance of a species. That lifestyle in general halts the passing of a genetic line. You know, science.

That should get them thinking or cause a meltdown.


20 posted on 06/12/2022 10:30:56 AM PDT by Dutch Boy (The only thing worse than having something taken from you is to have it returned broken. )
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