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The Unstated Scandal: The CIA Collected Info On President Trump
Techno Fog ^ | 2-15-2022

Posted on 02/15/2022 3:33:24 PM PST by blam

On Friday, Special Counsel John Durham filed a motion relating to a defense firm’s potential conflict of interest in the Michael Sussmann case. The conflict itself is certainly intriguing, with Sussmann’s lawyers at Latham & Watkins LLP (Latham) having represented potential witnesses in the case, including Perkins Coie, former Perkins Coie (and Clinton Campaign general counsel) Marc Elias, the Hillary Clinton Campaign, and Hillary for America.

The issue that made more noise, however, was Durham’s disclosure that Rodney Joffe – a contractor with deep ties to the Clintons, and what appears to be a deep hatred for Trump – had exploited Executive Office of the President of the United States data he obtained from a “sensitive arrangement” with the U.S. Government to damage President Trump. Here is our initial post on the topic.

And here is the talented Lee Smith providing a great explanation on Tucker:

Twitter avatar for @AKA_RealDirtyThe Dirty Truth (Josh) @AKA_RealDirty .@LeeSmithDC says he keeps hearing people comparing the scandal to Watergate when it doesn’t compare to Watergate at all. We are talking about some of the most secure communications in government been Surveiled by political operatives.

February 15th 2022

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Yet the data from the Executive Office of the President wasn’t all that Joffe had obtained. He also collected domain name system (DNS) internet traffic pertaining to a healthcare provider; Trump Tower; and Trump’s Central Park West apartment building.

Yesterday, February 14, Sussmann’s attorney’s disputed the Durham filing – to an extent. They said Sussmann provided the CIA with Executive Office of the President data from “when Barack Obama was president.”

I have a theory about this.

If Sussmann’s attorney is telling the truth (never a given), then we suspect the Executive Office of the President data included that from the 74 day the Trump transition period (between the November 8, 2016 election and the January 20, 2017 inauguration) – which would still be spying on the incoming Trump Administration.

For background, the Executive Office of the President includes a number of Executive councils (National Security Council, Office of Management and Budget, etc.) that support the President. It is involved generally in the transition from one president to the next.

What about the data involved with the Trump transition? On August 1, 2016, Trump reached an agreement with the General Services Administration (GSA) “for telecommunication and internet technology services for both the pre- and post-election transition period.”1 This is the agreement. Fool Nelson pointed out to me that Joffe’s other company, Packet Forensics, has a 2010 - 2025 contract with GSA. I wonder if Joffe’s company, Neustar, helped the GSA in the execution of that agreement. Maybe. Maybe not. I’m not sure it matters, as Neustar already had an agreement to provide “DNS resolution services” to the Executive Office of the President.

Regardless, the “transition theory”, if we can call it that, matches the timeline in the Sussmann indictment, which states that Joffe and his team continued to target “Trump-related computer networks” in late 2016 and early 2017. And it makes sense in context of Sussmann’s conduct, as Sussmann tried to put this information out there in late December 2016.

Anyway, back to the point of this post.

According to Durham, Joffe and his associates manipulated that data to make it seem like Trump, and those in Trump’s world, had suspicious interactions with internet protocol (IP) addresses affiliated with a Russian mobile phone provider. They then combined those allegations with the Alfa Bank hoax materials (the subject of Sussmann’s Fall 2016 meeting with then-FBI General Counsel James Baker).

This damaging information, purporting to demonstrate at least circumstantial evidence of Trump/Russia collusion, was presented on February 9, 2017 to what Durham describes as U.S. Government “Agency-2.”

That agency was the CIA. We know for sure that Sussmann met with the CIA General Counsel. We learned in January 2022 that, if Sussmann is to be believed, there were two other CIA employees at that meeting.

In other words, a Clinton supporting contractor (Joffe) obtained sensitive information (perhaps unlawfully) about the Office of the President of the United States (Trump), manipulated the information, passed it to a DNC/Clinton lawyer (Sussmann), who then delivered it to the CIA.

All on American soil.

This is important because the CIA is generally prohibited from conducting domestic operations. The FBI explains:

“The CIA collects information only regarding foreign countries and their citizens. Unlike the FBI, it is prohibited from collecting information regarding ‘U.S. Persons,’ a term that includes U.S. citizens, resident aliens, legal immigrants, and U.S. corporations, regardless of where they are located.”

In the CIA’s own words:

“The FBI is responsible for coordination of clandestine collection of foreign intelligence through human sources or human-enabled means and counterintelligence activities inside the United States.”

Yet when it came to Trump, here was the CIA doing what it is prohibited: “collecting information regarding U.S. persons” inside the United States.2 (See also the CIA’s bulk surveillance program.)

A top CIA official answered the call of a DNC lawyer who alleged that these suspicious internet “lookups” proved “that Trump and/or his associates were using supposedly rare, Russian-made wireless phones in the vicinity of the White House and other locations.” Accusations that were baseless, according to Durham.

In other words, the secret police was more than willing to accept politically damaging information against the President. I’m curious what they did with it. It seems naive to think the information stayed at the CIA. I bet it was passed onto the FBI or DOJ, who may have used it to further the Trump/Russia investigation.

The scandal we are seeing come to light just isn’t about Hillary and Joffe and Sussmann. It’s not limited to Fusion GPS, FISA abuse, or Igor Danchenko.

It’s also about the willingness of U.S. intelligence to target the President. And on that topic, the CIA has some serious questions to answer.


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1 posted on 02/15/2022 3:33:24 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Was not Mike Pompeo head of the CIA? Did he know or condone it?


2 posted on 02/15/2022 3:36:17 PM PST by Fungi
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To: blam
Tech Executive, Clinton Campaign Lawyer Respond To Durham's Latest Filing
3 posted on 02/15/2022 3:38:35 PM PST by blam
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To: blam

Heads should literally roll on this one. Their job is not to investigate Presidents.


4 posted on 02/15/2022 3:40:03 PM PST by bray (The Vax is fake and deadly)
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To: blam
Officially, the CIA and National Security Agency (NSA) have a foreign surveillance mission and domestic spying is prohibited by the CIA's 1947 charter.

Obama and his thugs did not want/need any FISA warrants to spy on/monitor/surveil Candidate Trump or President Elect Trump.

Napolitano: Obama Admin Used British GCHQ To Spy On Trump During Campaign

Posted By Tim Hains On Date March 14, 2017

On Monday, Fox News Channel judicial analyst Andrew Napolitano alleged that three intelligence sources had confirmed to him that the Obama administration used GCHQ (Britain's NSA) to spy on President Trump during the 2016 election so that there would be no paper trail.

"Three intelligence sources have informed Fox News that President Obama went outside the 'chain of command' to conduct the surveillance on Trump," he said. "Obama didn’t use the NSA, he didn’t use the CIA, he didn’t use the FBI, and he didn’t use the Department of Justice."

"What happened to the guy who ordered this? Resigned three days after Trump took office," he added.*

GCHQ nor Obama did nor required any paperwork to monitor and spy on candidate Trump.

All Obama had to do was have his AG Lynch make a phone call to Robert Hannigan @DCHQ and tell him to monitor candidate Trump and his people. No FISA stuff or judges nor paper trails.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/03/14/napolitano_obama_admin_used_british_intel_service_to_spy_on_trump_during_campaign.html

When did Mr Trump become our President? Jan 21, 2017 - Donald Trump became the 45th President of the United States on Friday, vowing to drain power from Washington elites and always put "America first" in its dealings with the world at a moment of transformative political change.

*So one might ask who resigned 2-3 days after Trump became president. It was not one of our intel guys. It was the director of Brit GCHQ intel. Go to the links below to find out who left GCHQ to spend more time with his family.

*Robert Hannigan has quit as head of GCHQ Credit: GCHQ. Gordon Rayner, Chief Reporter. 23 January 2017 • 3:32pm. Robert Hannigan, the director of GCHQ, has resigned from his job as head of one of the three Government intelligence agencies after just two years.Jan 23, 2017

GCHQ boss Robert Hannigan quits for 'personal reasons' after just two days after Trump becomes President.

www.telegraph.co.uk/.../2017/.../breaking-gchq-boss-quits-personal-reasons-just-two-ye...

*GCHQ chief Robert Hannigan quits | UK news | The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com › World › UK News › GCHQ Jan 23, 2017 - In his resignation letter to the Foreign Office, which is responsible for both GCHQ and the Secret Intelligence Service, better known as MI6, Hannigan said: “As you know, I have also initiated the greatest internal change within GCHQ for 30 years, and I feel that we are now well on the way to being fit for the …

*GCHQ boss Robert Hannigan quits for 'personal reasons' after just two ... www.telegraph.co.uk › News

*Jan 23, 2017 - Robert Hannigan has quit as head of GCHQ Credit: GCHQ. Gordon Rayner, Chief Reporter. 23 January 2017 • 3:32pm. Robert Hannigan, the director of GCHQ, has resigned from his job as head of one of the three Government intelligence agencies after just two years.

*Director GCHQ to step down | GCHQ Site https://www.gchq.gov.uk/news-article/director-hannigan-gchq-step-down Jan 23, 2017 - News article - 23 Jan 2017. In an exchange of letters with the Foreign Secretary, Robert Hannigan, Director of GCHQ since 2014, has today announced his decision to step down as Director of GCHQ once a successor is in place. He explains that this is for personal reasons in a letter to the Foreign …

*GCHQ director Robert Hannigan resigns - BBC News - BBC.com www.bbc.com/news/uk-38723040 Jan 23, 2017 - 23 January 2017. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-38723040. Image copyright GCHQ Image caption Robert Hannigan took over the role in 2014. The head of Britain's electronic surveillance agency GCHQ has resigned.

Our mediots and most of our Congressiots have ignored the above and following for years!

Remember: Officially, the CIA and National Security Agency (NSA) have a foreign surveillance mission and domestic spying is prohibited by the CIA's 1947 charter.

5 posted on 02/15/2022 3:41:00 PM PST by Grampa Dave (“Cloth and paper masks are as worthless as the people, who wear and advocate them!” A Clemenza post!)
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To: blam

Bttt.

5.56mm


6 posted on 02/15/2022 3:42:01 PM PST by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho need to go.)
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To: blam

This pilfering of DNS lookups is concerning, but it is actually molehill of an issue compared to the mountain of what the FISA courts allowed, which was the actual wiretapping of all communications of not only Carter Page, but all the communications of anyone he associated with while he was part of the Trump campaign. There were likely others, as well. This is where Durham needs to be digging, but sounds like he’s a long way from ever getting there, if ever, unfortunately.


7 posted on 02/15/2022 3:43:12 PM PST by Golden Eagle (What's in YOUR injection? You really have no way of knowing.)
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To: M Kehoe

Crickets db level about 120.


8 posted on 02/15/2022 3:43:26 PM PST by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this? 😕)
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To: blam

Extremism in the pursuit of liberty is no vice. And I’m talking extreme extremism.


9 posted on 02/15/2022 3:43:45 PM PST by HighSierra5 (The only way you know a commie is lying is when they open their pieholes.p)
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To: Fungi

Was not Mike Pompeo head of the CIA? Did he know or condone it?”

No!

Act of Treason was done under Obama’s so called watch.

John Brennan was Obama’s buddy and his CIA director.

John Brennan (CIA officer) - Wikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org › wiki › John_Brennan_(CIA_...

John Owen Brennan (born September 22, 1955) is a former American intelligence officer who served as the Director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) ...
President: Barack Obama

Children: 3
Deputy: Avril Haines; ‎David Cohen‎
Education: Fordham University (‎BA‎); ‎University ...‎
‎Education · ‎Career · ‎WikiLeaks hack · ‎Criticism of President Trump


10 posted on 02/15/2022 3:45:21 PM PST by Grampa Dave (“Cloth and paper masks are as worthless as the people, who wear and advocate them!” A Clemenza post!)
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To: blam

Time to clean these bureaus out one by one.


11 posted on 02/15/2022 3:46:02 PM PST by bray (The Vax is fake and deadly)
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To: blam

What’s not said often enough is that even WITH all of the spying on Trump they couldn’t find anything wrong, and so had to make something up.

I doubt anyone else in DC could withstand such scrutiny.


12 posted on 02/15/2022 3:48:18 PM PST by jdsteel ("A Republic, Madam, if you can keep it." Sorry Ben, looks like we blew it.)
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To: blam

If one were to to through the parking lot of that place, some, if not most, would be shocked to see how many Bernie, Biden, Hillary bumper stickers. The younger will have mostly, Bernie.

Barrel-chested freedom fighters make up, probably, less than 5% of the personnel. And those are the guys doing the dirty work that aren’t all that welcome in the building because they smell bad and have beards.


13 posted on 02/15/2022 3:53:33 PM PST by qaz123
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To: blam

Even if the Pubics win in November, they will not do a thing, because guaranteed that several Senate and House Repubics were also involved in this criminal act.


14 posted on 02/15/2022 4:00:22 PM PST by MGunny ( )
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I’d proposed a solution to stopping the traitorous activities of the IC here:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4014227/posts

Unfortunately, it’s pure fantasy.


15 posted on 02/15/2022 4:03:02 PM PST by mononymous
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To: qaz123

Guys doing what dirty work?


16 posted on 02/15/2022 4:03:22 PM PST by DesertRhino (Dogs are called man's best friend. Moslems hate dogs. Add it up....)
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To: DesertRhino

When Trump is re-elected he needs to spend the next four years exposing and eliminating all of them. This would be the best thing for the country.


17 posted on 02/15/2022 4:05:59 PM PST by RBW in PA
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To: blam

Durham will be the new Ken Starr.

The Clintons’ loyal MSM agents have probably been dumpster-diving the trash bins outside his house for some time now.

And if they can’t find any dirt on Durham, I’m sure they will simply invent some.


18 posted on 02/15/2022 4:15:09 PM PST by Meet the New Boss
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To: Fungi

Was not Mike Pompeo head of the CIA?
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Yes.
It’s why I will never trust him.


19 posted on 02/15/2022 4:15:51 PM PST by Lurkinanloomin ( (Natural born citizens are born here of citizen parents)(Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Fedora

New stuff on Joffe


20 posted on 02/15/2022 4:39:28 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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