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Delta Variant Death Rate Among Vaccinated Over 5 Times HIGHER Than the Unvaccinated in England
NoQ Report ^ | 3 September 2021 | Dr. Joel S. Hirschhorn

Posted on 09/03/2021 7:59:10 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

A new report with detailed data from Public Health England provides some startling numbers.

For the period of February 1 through August 2 there were COVID Delta variant cases for 47,000 people who had received 2 vaccine doses, and for 151,054 people who were unvaccinated.

In the first group of vaccinated people there were a total of 402 deaths, and in the second much larger group of unvaccinated people there were 253 deaths. To get the death rate you divide the number of deaths by the total number of infection cases.

That gives a death rate of .86 percent among the vaccinated and .17 percent among the unvaccinated. That is an amazing difference. The death rate among vaccinated was just over five times greater than that for the unvaccinated.

In other words, unvaccinated people who got infected were enormously safer from death. How can we explain this huge difference in terms of medical science? It should also be noted that it was determined that the measured viral load in both groups was the same.

So, why are vaccinated people dying more frequently than the unvaccinated. Here are some plausible explanations.

First, there is something very dangerous and unsafe in the COVID vaccines associated with spike proteins that are causing people to die at a higher rate. For example, as discussed elsewhere, all current vaccines have been associated with serious blood problems, notably both large and microscopic blood clots. Many people have died from brain bleeds and strokes, for example.

There are also many, many other types of adverse side effects causing a host of medical problems. Two famous virologists warned against using the current vaccines because they are fundamentally unsafe and could be killing people. They loudly proclaimed that the mass vaccination program should be halted. Instead, they advocated use of treatments using generic medicines like ivermectin, as detailed in Pandemic Blunder.

Second, it is reasonable to believe that most unvaccinated people have acquired natural immunity from some prior COVID infection. And that natural immunity is far more protective than the artificial or vaccine immunity obtained from jabs. Yet the US, like many other countries, does not give credit for natural immunity on a par with vaccine immunity when it comes to COVID passports and mandates. Very few nations do the right thing by honestly following the science.

Third, vaccinated people are susceptible to breakthrough infections, which means that they are not protected against infection after they have been originally infected. Phony and dangerous COVID vaccines do not destroy the virus, nor prevent transmitting it to others.

Conclusion The new data from England involving very large numbers of people should be headline news. But the biased and dishonest big media suppress this kind of critical data. Why? Clearly, if vaccinated people die at a much higher rate than unvaccinated people, then why should people be enthusiastic about being vaccinated? They should not. This is especially true for the millions of people who have natural immunity.


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Science
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1 posted on 09/03/2021 7:59:10 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: ransomnote; Jane Long

ping


2 posted on 09/03/2021 7:59:32 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

Such a reliable source... This is complete nonsense!


3 posted on 09/03/2021 8:00:58 PM PDT by jerod (Nazi's were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: jerod

Total fake news.


4 posted on 09/03/2021 8:01:42 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Fractal Trader

I read that the genetic sequencing to determine which variant you have is an expensive process and used only very selectively. How can they be determine which variant ALL people have?


5 posted on 09/03/2021 8:02:18 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Criminal democrats kill babies. Do you think anything else is a problem for them?”)
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To: MarMema

Fake because you disagree with the numbers? How liberal of you.


6 posted on 09/03/2021 8:05:02 PM PDT by datura (The voice that brought you peace has nothing left to say.)
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To: datura

Fake because King Fauci didn’t say it.


7 posted on 09/03/2021 8:06:53 PM PDT by tatown
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To: Fractal Trader

These mRNA vaccines actually break down and destroy the body‘s natural immune system.

It’s no wonder vaccinated people are at greater risk.


8 posted on 09/03/2021 8:07:44 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (I love my country. It's my government that I hate.)
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To: ransomnote; Cathi; SecAmndmt; metmom; Pollard; HypatiaTaught; bagster; grey_whiskers; ...
FTA....

That gives a death rate of .86 percent among the vaccinated and .17 percent among the unvaccinated. That is an amazing difference. The death rate among vaccinated was just over five times greater than that for the unvaccinated.

In other words, unvaccinated people who got infected were enormously safer from death. How can we explain this huge difference in terms of medical science? It should also be noted that it was determined that the measured viral load in both groups was the same.

Ping!

(Also....Usual suspects alert.)

9 posted on 09/03/2021 8:09:27 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: tatown

😂😂


10 posted on 09/03/2021 8:10:03 PM PDT by datura (The voice that brought you peace has nothing left to say.)
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To: Fractal Trader; All

About the author....

Pro-vaccine doctor regrets getting the ‘Rona Jab

Dr Joel Hirschhorn is a doctor who has testified before Congress over fifty times during his career. He’s widely considered an unbiased medical expert who has traditionally been pro-vaccine. In fact, he even got both doses of the jab. However, after doing more research and seeing the serious side effects of the supposed mRNA “vaccine”, Dr Hirschhorn regrets getting the shot and is now touting safe and effective drugs like Ivermectin instead.

Dr Joel Hirschhorn is a widely respected doctor who has testified before Congress over fifty times over the course of his career. He spends his days reading medical journals and the latest COVID-19 data. This is a man that is not “fringe” by any means.

I’ve had the opportunity of interviewing many experts on COVID-19 and the vaccines, including Dr Lee Merritt, Pamela Popper and several others. The one criticism that I’ve heard regarding those interviews is that they are too controversial. Why can’t I get a widely respected doctor who is not saying things that are too “out there” for the mainstream? Where are those doctors? Enter Dr Joel Hirschhorn.

Dr Hirschhorn is not an “anti-vaxxer.” In fact, he’s received both doses of the COVID-19 vaccine, himself! However, after taking a deep dive into the science and side effects of the vaccines, as well as other more effective and safer treatments available, he regrets getting the mRNA injection.

He explained that HCQ and Ivermectin have been extremely effective at treating COVID-19, and has been proven through peer-reviewed papers, studies and experience in the field. Ivermectin is a drug that is widely available all around the world and is extremely safe. The mRNA “vaccines”, however, only have a limited supply and we know that there are serious side effects both short-term and potentially long-term.

https://freedomfirstnetwork.com/2021/06/dr-joel-hirschhorn-a-pro-vaccine-doctor-who-regrets-getting-the-rona-jab

Dr. Joel S. Hirschhorn, as a full professor at the University of Wisconsin, Madison, directed a medical research program between the colleges of engineering and medicine. At the Congressional Office of Technology Assessment and the National Governors Association, he directed major health-related studies. He has testified at over 50 U.S. Senate and House hearings and authored hundreds of articles in journals and on websites, plus op-ed articles in major newspapers. He has been an executive volunteer at a major hospital for more than 10 years. His newest book is PandemicBlunder.

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I haven’t looked into whether, or not, he has a criminal record. I figure the usual suspects can do that.


11 posted on 09/03/2021 8:15:13 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: Fractal Trader

In the multi-hospital system I work for, fully 30% of those currently in the hospital with Covid have been vaccinated. It has recently been as high as 40%. Out of about 2000 beds in the system, there are well under 100 patients with Covid. There are only 8 Covid patients on ventilators. The dashboard does not identify how many of the Covid ventilator patients are vaccinated. This is from an up-to-the-minute dashboard that everyone who logs into our EMR can see. My daughter, a nurse in the PICU of one of these hospitals says all the news about how they are overwhelmed by Covid is nonsense. It is a huge spike of RSV they’re seeing, not Covid. The total numbers I see on the dashboard back her up.


12 posted on 09/03/2021 8:18:27 PM PDT by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: Fractal Trader; ransomnote

Here’s a link to the study....scroll to page 18...

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1009243/Technical_Briefing_20.pdf


13 posted on 09/03/2021 8:18:48 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: Fractal Trader

A valid comparison would be the total number of vaccinated people who died, compared to the total number of unvaccinated people who died.

Not the total number of sick people who died from each group.

And there’s a subset of people who were going to die from the very next bug to come along too.


14 posted on 09/03/2021 8:19:24 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: scouter
My daughter, a nurse in the PICU of one of these hospitals says all the news about how they are overwhelmed by Covid is nonsense. It is a huge spike of RSV they’re seeing, not Covid. The total numbers I see on the dashboard back her up.

Thank you for posting that info.

Appreciate your and your daughter's on the scene report. Just what I've been saying...especially about the RSV.

15 posted on 09/03/2021 8:20:53 PM PDT by Jane Long (America, Bless God....blessed be the Nation.)
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To: Fractal Trader

There are numerous reports that Israel, the most Vaccinated country on the planet, also has the highest percentage of Wuhan Virus infections on the planet.
So, given all these numerous reports, can a Wuhan Vaxx proponent please explain this in a Coherent, Medically Relevant, Logical manner to all those who say Hell No! to these Experimental Vaccines?
I must add to this that the Pioneer of mRNA as a possible cure for numerous diseases is on record telling everyone who will lsten Not to subject themselves to these Vaccines. Given this FACT, please Further Explain why we should Ignore that mans Warnings?
These are Serious Questions. I ask for Serious Answers. Thank you all in advance.


16 posted on 09/03/2021 8:21:01 PM PDT by ocrp1982 ( Bibicly)
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To: Fractal Trader

“Clearly, if vaccinated people die at a much higher rate than unvaccinated people”

That’s not what the data says.


17 posted on 09/03/2021 8:22:28 PM PDT by Mariner (War criminal #18)
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To: Fractal Trader

Vastly higher proportion of vulnerable people, such as those over 65, have been vaccinated than not. Most of the still unvaccinated are children or young people. The comparison is not between like populations.


18 posted on 09/03/2021 8:24:05 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

If they restrict the analysis to 60 and older, would that be convincing?


19 posted on 09/03/2021 8:25:11 PM PDT by TTFX ( )
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To: Fractal Trader

SARS-CoV-2 variants of concern and variants under investigation (publishing.service.gov.uk)


20 posted on 09/03/2021 8:25:37 PM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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