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Longish essay, read it all at linked source. Express your opinion(s) in discussion. Please, I'd like to know your opinion.

Would be nice to know the current "mood of the nation" (similar to the Zogby poll) on the topic of secession.

1 posted on 08/06/2020 5:48:18 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot
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I do not see the union of 50 states lasting much longer. I’ve lived my whole life in New England. For the good of the country, this region should be pushed out and forced to become an independent People’s Republic. I’ll move to America.


2 posted on 08/06/2020 5:51:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (If White Privilege is real, why did Elizabeth Warren lie about being an Indian?)
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Unless and until the nation returns to God and repents the chaos will continue and the divisions widen and multiply.

If Trump wins the violence will increase.

If Trump loses the attempts to oppress conservatives and subvert the Constitution will be met with serious "resistance".

3 posted on 08/06/2020 5:53:28 AM PDT by G Larry (There is no merit in compromising with the Devil.)
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Where is there common ground?


5 posted on 08/06/2020 5:56:45 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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Is The Divide Becoming Irreparable?

No.

"Becoming" is no longer the correct word.

6 posted on 08/06/2020 5:56:53 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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The silent majority is watching and waiting. The socialists and blacks are doing big damage to themselves.


8 posted on 08/06/2020 5:57:13 AM PDT by jetson (chiwowa)
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Rinse and repeat the same article multiple times the past 240 years.

Everyone always thinks so because reasons. Everyone thinks their time is the REAL serious one.


9 posted on 08/06/2020 5:57:26 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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It is not just divided, the left is seeking to eliminate the right.


10 posted on 08/06/2020 5:57:58 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is thp at they are both death cults.)
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It only took an 9/11 event to quiet down (but not for long) the Hate America crowd.

In today’s climate, not even another 9/11 (x10), God forbid, will bring the country together.

So, the answer is, no.


12 posted on 08/06/2020 6:08:29 AM PDT by Sir Napsalot (Pravda + Useful Idiots = USSR; Journ0List + Useful Idiots = DopeyChangey)
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AMERICANS HAVE NEVER BEEN THIS IDEOLOGICALLY NOR POLITICALLY DIVIDED ..

How about the Civil War?

13 posted on 08/06/2020 6:11:26 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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The House Divided May NEVER Reunify!

If you want Marxism, arson, looting, rioting then the only reconciliation will be at God's Great Judgment Seat.

On the other hand the pusillanimous RINOs stand for nothing either except globalism and crony capitalism and if they need to give socialists something to keep the peace, then that is the cost of business - all borne by working Americans. The problem is the division isn't left vs right. It's takers vs producers.

14 posted on 08/06/2020 6:11:26 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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Americans have always been divided politically. but what is going on now is a leftist inspired cultural revolution. Leftists, although a small minority, think they are in the driver’s seat so they will not back down. And so far, since there is no battle actually going on, so they are winning.


15 posted on 08/06/2020 6:15:40 AM PDT by odawg
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Too many in this country are followers. Yes, the people are divided, but only because they are told to be by the media and elected officials.

If not for the divisive strategies of the Media and leftist politicians, this country would heal and prosper. But there is power in that division so unity is the LAST thing the left wants in America.

No, America will not heal or unify until the socialist and radicals are driven out of power.

The real question is, ‘Will America ever rid itself of that cancer?”.

I doubt it. Just look have fast we folded over COVID mandates and accepted the “New Normal”.

Most of America is too stupid to remain free. The rest of us are just going down the drain with them outnumbered and over run.


18 posted on 08/06/2020 6:27:56 AM PDT by CrappieLuck
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WORST CASE SCENARIO GAME PLAYING

If Trump loses the election and the left gains power:

The right will meekly accept the results of the election, there will be no civil unrest. The left will invest Washington and initiate a series of repressive ordinances against liberty and property. Still, the center-right will not resort to violence and revolt. Many on the right will be co-opted. As the left gains more and more power it will begin to eat its own. An obvious example will be striving for control of the Regency which is the Biden presidency. In the course of these strivings, the Constitution will be commonly understood to have been displaced. At some point economic and political dystopia along the lines of Venezuela will seize America. After that, the deluge.

If Trump wins the election and the left does not gain more power:

The eruption on the left will be far more violent than the protests which occurred in the wake of Trump's first election. Expect terrorist attacks which might descend into guerrilla actions in which the perpetrators operate in sanctuary cities or retreat into sanctuary cities as they flee federal authorities. If the attacks become savage enough and widespread enough, the goal of forcing the federal government to engage at the level of martial law might be realized. At that point expect widespread civil strife and violence as we have seen in places like Iraq.

The turning point:

The matter will be decided by the American military when it intervenes at a crisis point on one side or the other. Where and on whose behalf the military intervenes is simply not clear.

Nope, not a prediction-a worst-case scenario game play.


19 posted on 08/06/2020 6:28:39 AM PDT by nathanbedford (attack, repeat, attack! Bull Halsey)
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The commies want a struggle. They believe it is necessary to achieve their perfect commie utopia. They don’t want peace, harmony, and unity


20 posted on 08/06/2020 6:29:36 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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They have always hated us - but we responded with indifference. Recent events have affected our response.


22 posted on 08/06/2020 6:42:08 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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Answer: Yes. Unfortunately.

Based on what I have been reading and seeing over the last 6 months (and before that, really) and family members, the breach is irreparable.

Only God can heal that. It may be that God has decided to let us continue in our tribalism...


24 posted on 08/06/2020 6:51:31 AM PDT by sauropod (I will not comply.)
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You cannot peacefully live with hysterical people who exist in a delusional world of Marxist militancy.

America is already finished. Now comes the civil war. Either patriots upholding the constitution win or the Leftist zombies win. There is no “blend” of the two. The Leftists want to completely destroy what America was founded to be.

You have Oprah Winfrey, a black woman, worth $2.5 billion, mostly from the support of white women, saying blacks have no chance in America. The “systemically racist” USA twice elected a (half) black man as President.

Have you ever tried to live peacefully with a violent, crazy person?


25 posted on 08/06/2020 6:54:14 AM PDT by Gnome1949
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Smart people vs stupid people. No fixing stupid.


27 posted on 08/06/2020 6:58:32 AM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Have!)
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“Are the differences between Republican and Democrat, Liberal and Conservative, Leftist and Traditionalist, Patriot and Globalist too deep for any possible reconciliation?”

Why did he leave out “blacks and whites” which is at the core of most of our divide?

Especially since later in the article he mentions that blacks are most in favor of secession! I think that is good news and whites should take them up on it.

There needs to be three countries. Blacks only, whites only and a mixed race country for the masochists who want to keep enjoying the “vibrancy” of diversity like we currently have. That way everyone is happy and in control of their destinies.

It would be great if there was also a way to separate the left from the right, but that’s a harder one to pull off because there is no physical marker that identifies a leftist from a rightist. People are not statically one or the other.


30 posted on 08/06/2020 7:23:05 AM PDT by aquila48 (Do not let them make you care! Guilting you is how they control you.)
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I’ve said for some time that while the Republicans are far from always being right, Democrats are always wrong, on every issue, every time.


34 posted on 08/06/2020 7:40:26 AM PDT by tnlibertarian
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