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Americans seem to trust the mainstream media more than these renowned doctors!
1 posted on 04/05/2020 9:03:33 AM PDT by USA Conservative
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Mr. Fauci says every success is merely anecdotal aka worthless....just another way of saying doctors are stupid.

Fauci has made everyone "just a number".

2 posted on 04/05/2020 9:07:34 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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MY 72 year old chain smoking nrighbor recovered by sleeping for 5 days with NO medicine. Slept and drank water.


3 posted on 04/05/2020 9:11:33 AM PDT by max americana (Fired ONE libtard at work at every election since 2008 because I enjoy them crying)
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Wait until May comes and the weather gets really warm. It will be the death of this horrific virus.


4 posted on 04/05/2020 9:11:37 AM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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RE: 98% Fully recover.

What about the 2%?

Considering that there are millions of cases worldwide, that would still amount to tens of thousands, perhaps, hundreds of thousands of deaths.


5 posted on 04/05/2020 9:13:19 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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I’ve been thinking of retiring to Arkansas. Good to see them on that list. My Mom worked for Lockheed Martin there and I fell in love with the place over years of visiting her. Not an easy group to kill off from what I could tell.


6 posted on 04/05/2020 9:14:41 AM PDT by avenir
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The Panic Porn media cant stand this


7 posted on 04/05/2020 9:16:51 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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Do not believe Texas is shut down.


8 posted on 04/05/2020 9:17:23 AM PDT by mulligan (En bbnnEeThe tC)
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As of today (March 29, 2020) there are 123,828 confirmed cases and 2229 deaths (1.8% death rate) from COVID-19 in the United States. Compare that with the influenza estimates so far this year: 29,000 deaths! And the flu season is not yet over, with the CDC estimating as many as 59,000 will die of influenza by May of this year.

Looking at the actual CDC Data, If you start the 2020 Flu Season in December 2019, then between that date and March 28, 2020, there have been 62,143 deaths from influenza and pneumonia (the standard the CDC uses to report "flu deaths."

10 posted on 04/05/2020 9:18:32 AM PDT by Yo-Yo ( is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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1 death out of every 50 people is unacceptable.
And it’s not clear that they “fully recover”. They recover from the virus but may have lasting lung damage.

We’re not going to lay down and not fight this thing.

That is, unless the way to fight this it to lay down in our homes.


12 posted on 04/05/2020 9:18:50 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Watch for “reported” influenza and flu deaths this season to be “weirdly” low. Sleight of hand? Magic? Creative reporting to make deaths from Chinese virus appear to be worse than it is/was in order to justify loss of freedom? More deaths to blame on Trump’s “handling” of the “pandemic”?

Wink, wink. Nod, nod.

Also, might there be a financial consideration for the medical community as the Feds have signaled money, money, money will be coming to pay for “Coronovirus” treatment? Why, yes there “might” just be.


15 posted on 04/05/2020 9:21:33 AM PDT by Sir Bangaz Cracka (Slamming dat white cracka'a head into dat sidewalk causin he be scared)
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And it will get higher than that.

Probably about a 0.5% fatality rate, like all the other flus.


16 posted on 04/05/2020 9:21:57 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (If you don't recognize that as sarcasm you are dumber than a bag of hammers.)
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“As of today (March 29, 2020) there are 123,828 confirmed cases and 2229 deaths (1.8% death rate) from COVID-19 in the United States. Compare that with the influenza estimates so far this year: 29,000 deaths! And the flu season is not yet over, with the CDC estimating as many as 59,000 will die of influenza by May of this year.”

If we were going to compare that with influenza estimates so far this year, we would also include the flu death rate and the total number of flu cases. The article can’t make a comparison if it doesn’t. Article mentions the death rate from coronavirus (1.8%) and the total number of coronavirus cases but not the flu death rate or total number of flu cases, only total number. Also, based on today’s count of the number of people in the USA who have or had coronavirus (323,516) and the total number of deaths so far (9171) the fatality rate is 2.83% not 1.8%. The death rate could end up being greater than 2.83% because deaths are a lagging indicator with the kind of daily case expansion we are seeing. Still, I’ll use 1.8%.

The flu death rate for the 2019 - 2020 flu season is 0.073% - 0.115% with between 33,000,000 and 55,000,000 million cases. So coronavirus - 1.8% fatality rate and flu 0.073% - 0.115% fatality rate this season. So coronavirus has a fatality rate 24.66 to 15.65 times greater. Of course there are some coronavirus cases not counted but it’s still quite a bit higher than the flu fatality rate. Flu doesn’t collapse hospital systems, there’s effective treatments for it, and many fewer people as a percentage are hospitalized for it than flu. Every country that tried to treat it as business as usual or pursue herd immunity had to backtrack when their hospital systems started getting stressed. We can of course look at the total number of deaths between the two but for the flu that was before social distancing and with coronavirus it’s after social distancing. It’s still a big deal.

The Chinese coronavirus is a real menace and we have the Chinese to thank for this global disaster. They hid it’s origin (likely a worker who got infected from a bite or handling fluids), hid how serious it was, hid the overall case rate and underestimated fatalities, and are using it as an opportunity to try to gain more influence in the world. I wouldn’t be surprised if they try to take Taiwan too one of the reasons why that carrier captain was fired. They need to be blamed for it.

I remember early on I was getting worried about it because they shut in 60 million people with a draconian quarantine. No country, Chinese or otherwise, does that unless the threat is extremely serious. If we are going to look at who benefited from this, it’s the Chinese.


22 posted on 04/05/2020 9:26:20 AM PDT by jimnm
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That is what everyone forgets when the media focuses only on the death rate


23 posted on 04/05/2020 9:26:31 AM PDT by Mom MD
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You have to compare the death rate to total resolved cases(dead plus recovered) to get the running mortality rate...the ongoing cases haven’t been resolved yet so we don’t know what the death rate for those who actually get the disease is. World wide the death rate vs (recovered + the dead)=21 percent dead vs 79 percent recovered...and that is with China’s suspect numbers.(https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/) There are some 920 thousand active cases left to resolve either dead or alive. One hopes eventually that the “recovered case” percentiles will outstrip the “death case” percentiles.

The good news is that about 80 to 90 percent, in the US, who, being tested are coming back negative even though there are some false negatives that may turn positive later. Some may have already had the disease but antibody studies will only show that later. So vast swaths of populace may never get the disease or get it mildly or will have had an asymptomatic case.
That is the question then for the government to face....when to turn the country back on...(?)


24 posted on 04/05/2020 9:29:45 AM PDT by mdmathis6
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I don’t know how I did it but I survived the 2017-18 epidemic which was 5 times worse than the swine flu......


25 posted on 04/05/2020 9:31:30 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (How did I survive the Swine flu and the killer flu of 2017-18 without govt. help?)
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Americans seem to trust the mainstream media more than these renowned doctors!

Let's try honesty in advertising. First, you are pimping a blog. And to pimp your blog you are relying on a publication by an deepster lobbying organization, The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons.

This is not a scientific publication. It's a blurb by a professional association advocating the interests of its members.

Nothing against them - just truth in advertising.

27 posted on 04/05/2020 9:32:35 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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Does not match the media narrative of fear and dread

Does not match the Fauxi narrative


28 posted on 04/05/2020 9:32:49 AM PDT by Chauncey Gardiner
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meanwhile, we’ve let the politicians destroy our supposedly-protected-and-cherished Divinely-bestowed liberties....
....... and our economy, businesses, jobs, savings, investments, and to a considerable degree, our lives

SNAFU!


29 posted on 04/05/2020 9:35:03 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ("Politicians are not born, they are excreted." Marcus Tullius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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“Americans seem to trust the mainstream media more than these renowned doctors!”

I don’t trust the media, or frankly anyone at this point in this pandemic - because NO ONE is an expert on Covid, and NO ONE has ever dealt with a coronavirus pandemic. That said, Martin Dubravec is not a ‘renowned doctor’, but that matters little, as ‘renowned’ doesn’t mean good - or even competent. There are plenty of hacks who are self-promoting and get their names out there. Most people don’t go into medicine to become ‘renowned’, and lots of physicians mistrust or look askance at those physicians who concentrate on celebrity. Some are probably great docs, but not because they are ‘renowned’.

Dubravec wrote a credible commentary, but he, like the rest of us, have a limited data set to rely on and to base conclusions on. Undoubtedly, most people do survive and have mild symptoms. That said, enough are getting seriously ill such that it is putting a very significant strain on our hospital capacity - and overwhelming some. Don’t panic, but don’t underestimate.


30 posted on 04/05/2020 9:35:44 AM PDT by neverevergiveup
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Of all the deaths reported in the United States as of today, only 2 have been in patients under 18 years of age. Currently, our death rate (deaths/confirmed cases) has been as high as 2.3% and as low as 1.1% over the past 2 weeks. The President’s COVID-19 Taskforce estimated that as many as 1/1000 New Yorkers may have the virus. If this were projected to the entire United States (population 328,239,523), then the total number of COVID-19 would be approximately 328,239 and deaths from COVID-19 (1.8% death rate) at 5,909. Even if this ends up being wrong by 1,000 percent, the death rate would still be 59,000, i.e., within the range of the estimates for influenza deaths. You can look at it in another way. 98% of people who get COVID-19 fully recover!

According to the John Hopkins University Chinese Wuhan Flu Death Tracker, The USA, as of 3 minutes ago, has 321,762 confirmed cases and 9,132 deaths. The author of the article needs to reassess his hypothesis and check his math.

32 posted on 04/05/2020 9:37:36 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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