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Recalling the Tragic History of Gun Control
Independent Institute ^ | 9/6/19 | Stephen P. Halbrook

Posted on 10/18/2019 1:35:14 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

Murderers with poisonous ideologies have taken the lives of innocents once again. And the response is the same as it always is: Politicians turn to the proven solution of creating yet more felonies to criminalize law-abiding gun owners. Won’t it be fun to imprison an elderly widow who transfers her husband’s old shotgun to a neighbor without a background check? Or give a felony record to a young worker who has a rifle the bureaucracy classifies an “assault weapon” because it has one of those deadly adjustable stocks? Almost all guns are sold by licensed dealers, who are required to clear every sale through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). Requiring “universal background checks” on private sales, according to the National Institute of Justice, involves one additional step: “effectiveness depends on ... requiring gun registration.” So that’s the necessary next step. But don’t hold your breath waiting for criminals and crazies to do background checks on each other. As for “assault weapons”—the propagandistic euphemism for common semiautomatic rifles possessed by millions of Americans—President Bill Clinton signed a law in 1994 banning them; it expired 10 years later. The law was not renewed when the data showed it had no effect on crime. Since it did nothing, why not enact yet another useless version? The NICS law, passed in 1993, prohibits registration of guns and gun owners. Congress has repeatedly rejected gun registration based on bitter historical lessons. Just before the 1941 Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Congress forbade gun registration and reaffirmed the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms based on how the Nazis used registration records to confiscate firearms from their intended victims. Purportedly to fight street violence, Germany’s Weimar Republic in 1931 decreed gun registration, but warned that the records must not fall into the hands of radical elements. Unfortunately, those radical elements—the National Socialist Party led by Adolf Hitler—seized power in 1933 and used those very same records to disarm political opponents, rendering them incapable of resistance. Disarmed German Jews paid the price in the 1938 Kristallnacht pogrom, a major step in the road to the Holocaust. Political protest and violence in France prompted Prime Minister Pierre Laval in 1935 to decree firearm registration and repression of the right to assemble. What could possibly go wrong? The registration records were critical to the Nazis, who overran France five years later, imposing the death penalty for those not turning in their guns, and conscripting the French police to ferret out violators. Despite the chance of being executed, numerous French citizens hid their firearms instead of surrendering them. The same Pierre Laval became the chief collaborator of the Nazis during the occupation. French newspapers regularly reported the names of gun owners shot by firing squads. The brave French, who held onto their guns despite the threat of execution, formed the basis for the French Resistance. To be sure, they never had sufficient arms, and prewar restrictions on “military-style” firearms hampered their efforts, leaving them with inferior weapons. Yet, they were able to commit acts of sabotage, gain intelligence, and sustain an underground movement to assist the Allies. After D-Day, they engaged in open armed resistance. Such experiences are as old as humanity. Tyrants, conquerors, and dictators of every breed disarm their subjects in order to dominate and exploit them. It’s an iron law of history. Has it lost its meaning today? No such conditions exist in the United States, due in no small part to our rights protected by the First and Second Amendments. But history should teach us to be careful of what we wish for. Every mass murder—which can be committed in any number of ways—prompts the siren call to disarm good citizens. Require registration of, or ban, ordinary guns that are arbitrarily called “assault weapons”? Ban all firearms? Don’t bank on much compliance. Impose felony penalties; imprison citizens; send police to break into houses to seize firearms; shoot those who think they’re resisting a home invasion? What a recipe for disaster. Maybe it’s time to pursue real solutions to criminal violence and forget about a war on peaceable, law-abiding gun owners.


TOPICS: History; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; communazis; guncontrol; myeyes; paragraphs
The more things change....


1 posted on 10/18/2019 1:35:14 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

Paragraphs are your friend


2 posted on 10/18/2019 1:39:26 PM PDT by taxcontrol (Stupid should hurt - dad's wisdom)
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To: Impala64ssa
Murderers with poisonous ideologies have taken the lives of innocents once again. And the response is the same as it always is: Politicians turn to the proven solution of creating yet more felonies to criminalize law-abiding gun owners.

Won’t it be fun to imprison an elderly widow who transfers her husband’s old shotgun to a neighbor without a background check? Or give a felony record to a young worker who has a rifle the bureaucracy classifies an “assault weapon” because it has one of those deadly adjustable stocks?

Almost all guns are sold by licensed dealers, who are required to clear every sale through the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS). Requiring “universal background checks” on private sales, according to the National Institute of Justice, involves one additional step: “effectiveness depends on ... requiring gun registration.” So that’s the necessary next step. But don’t hold your breath waiting for criminals and crazies to do background checks on each other.

As for “assault weapons”—the propagandistic euphemism for common semiautomatic rifles possessed by millions of Americans—President Bill Clinton signed a law in 1994 banning them; it expired 10 years later. The law was not renewed when the data showed it had no effect on crime. Since it did nothing, why not enact yet another useless version?

The NICS law, passed in 1993, prohibits registration of guns and gun owners. Congress has repeatedly rejected gun registration based on bitter historical lessons. Just before the 1941 Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, Congress forbade gun registration and reaffirmed the Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms based on how the Nazis used registration records to confiscate firearms from their intended victims.

Purportedly to fight street violence, Germany’s Weimar Republic in 1931 decreed gun registration, but warned that the records must not fall into the hands of radical elements. Unfortunately, those radical elements—the National Socialist Party led by Adolf Hitler—seized power in 1933 and used those very same records to disarm political opponents, rendering them incapable of resistance. Disarmed German Jews paid the price in the 1938 Kristallnacht pogrom, a major step in the road to the Holocaust.

Political protest and violence in France prompted Prime Minister Pierre Laval in 1935 to decree firearm registration and repression of the right to assemble. What could possibly go wrong?

The registration records were critical to the Nazis, who overran France five years later, imposing the death penalty for those not turning in their guns, and conscripting the French police to ferret out violators. Despite the chance of being executed, numerous French citizens hid their firearms instead of surrendering them.

The same Pierre Laval became the chief collaborator of the Nazis during the occupation. French newspapers regularly reported the names of gun owners shot by firing squads.

The brave French, who held onto their guns despite the threat of execution, formed the basis for the French Resistance. To be sure, they never had sufficient arms, and prewar restrictions on “military-style” firearms hampered their efforts, leaving them with inferior weapons. Yet, they were able to commit acts of sabotage, gain intelligence, and sustain an underground movement to assist the Allies. After D-Day, they engaged in open armed resistance.

Such experiences are as old as humanity. Tyrants, conquerors, and dictators of every breed disarm their subjects in order to dominate and exploit them. It’s an iron law of history. Has it lost its meaning today?

No such conditions exist in the United States, due in no small part to our rights protected by the First and Second Amendments. But history should teach us to be careful of what we wish for. Every mass murder—which can be committed in any number of ways—prompts the siren call to disarm good citizens.

Require registration of, or ban, ordinary guns that are arbitrarily called “assault weapons”? Ban all firearms? Don’t bank on much compliance.

Impose felony penalties; imprison citizens; send police to break into houses to seize firearms; shoot those who think they’re resisting a home invasion? What a recipe for disaster.

Maybe it’s time to pursue real solutions to criminal violence and forget about a war on peaceable, law-abiding gun owners.


3 posted on 10/18/2019 1:41:47 PM PDT by stylin19a (2016 - Best.Election.Of.All.Times.Ever.In.The.History.Of.Ever)
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To: stylin19a

Under our current rules how would they know who the “old lady” was that gave away her husbands shotgun? This is what I worry about. Why do I need a tragic boating accident unless somehow they know I bought a firearm. Help me out here.


4 posted on 10/18/2019 1:55:45 PM PDT by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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To: Impala64ssa

What about airguns?

Are they also regulated like regular guns?

5 posted on 10/18/2019 1:59:58 PM PDT by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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To: Impala64ssa
Tyrants, conquerors, and dictators of every breed disarm their subjects in order to dominate and exploit them. It’s an iron law of history. Has it lost its meaning today?

My dad came back from WWII and told of how

Hitler used shoe boxes of gun registrations to

round up gun owners and confiscate their weapons.

Those brave soldiers came back and put hard limits on

the kind of data the government could obtain and keep on us.

These days the FBI,CIA,NSA and how many other unnamed agencies

probably know how often I thought of even

cleaning any particular one of my firearms and

maybe even which cleaning solution I might choose.

Yes it's lost its meaning today, we truly have slid into the abyss.

7

6 posted on 10/18/2019 2:02:10 PM PDT by infool7 (Your mistakes are not what define you, it's how gracefully you recover from them that does.)
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To: mistfree

That is why universal back ground checks are so important to them.

Free market sales are the safety valve against confiscation.

If one can one should always sell their firearms on the free market.

After a couple of sales they become untraceable.

If you can also make a couple of 80 percent firearms.


7 posted on 10/18/2019 2:05:42 PM PDT by riverrunner ( o the public,)
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To: Impala64ssa

Japan knew they couldn’t attack our mainland.

https://azdailysun.com/news/opinion/mailbag/gun-ownership-kept-japanese-at-bay/article_234b2654-26c2-57ad-944f-7eef4efb0e29.html


8 posted on 10/18/2019 2:24:17 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: mistfree

I’ve posted this info before.
You might want to copy and print it, it IS accurate.
You can visit the ATF website for confirmation of most of this if you doubt me.
Of course they will not publicly admit their illegal records compilation.

All Firearms dealers are REQUIRED to keep the form 4473 you filled out when you bought the gun for twenty years.

Dealers are also required to keep their “Bound Book” records from the first day of business until the last, no matter how long that may be.
And once they do go out of business they are required to send all the 4473’s and bound books to ATF.
What do you think ATF is doing with those records?
If you guessed attempting to compile an illegal central registry of gun owners you would be correct.

And there is also the matter of some dealers now storing their sales information on “The Cloud”.
Incredibly, they seem to think that is a secure practice!
I have some personal experience with the precursor to the Cloud, and I guarantee it is NOT secure if Gov. Org. are the ones demanding access!
And once organized crime hacks the Cloud, they too will have a map of where to steal the best firearms.

So if O’Dourke had his way the cops would just go to every dealer and record all transactions. (Currently illegal)

At this time in our history it basically becomes our duty to obtain at least one firearm that cannot be traced.
I suggest we do so quickly, for any who have not already accomplished this task.


9 posted on 10/18/2019 2:48:27 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: seawolf101

Some are, usually depends on caliber and FPS they are capable of.
Varies by state.


10 posted on 10/18/2019 2:49:35 PM PDT by Ex gun maker. (Unconstitutional "Law" is void from inception.....)
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To: Impala64ssa

Wow is that hard to read. I’ll need to copy it and put it and make some paragraphs. About 20 of em.


11 posted on 10/18/2019 2:51:49 PM PDT by albie
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To: Impala64ssa

Do not give up your guns.


12 posted on 10/18/2019 3:03:21 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Ex gun maker.

thank you! that is exactly what I feared. I really regret that boating accident.


13 posted on 10/18/2019 3:48:34 PM PDT by mistfree (It's a very uncreative man who can't think of more than one way to spell a word.)
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To: Impala64ssa

“But history should teach us to be careful of what we wish for. Every mass murder—which can be committed in any number of ways—prompts the siren call to disarm good citizens.”

Which prompts a call to come and take ‘em.

The leftist politicians in big cities may persuade the fat nazi police chiefs to disarm citizens in big cities they control. Once these nazi pigs step beyond the city boundaries to enforce their nazi gun-grabbing decrees, they become legitimate targets by sheriffs and the exurbia and rural militia.


14 posted on 10/18/2019 4:32:43 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: sergeantdave

We just watched it happen in Venezuela!

First the guns, then the food, then the people.

History usually repeats itself. Will we ever learn?


15 posted on 10/18/2019 4:56:37 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: lizma2

What’s your point?


16 posted on 10/18/2019 4:59:12 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: sergeantdave

“Every mass murder—which can be committed in any number of ways—prompts the siren call to disarm good citizens.”


17 posted on 10/18/2019 5:11:47 PM PDT by lizma2
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To: lizma2

“Every mass murder—which can be committed in any number of ways—prompts the siren call to disarm good citizens.”

So what?

Every chicken squawk to disarm good citizens prompts a call to arrest the gun-grabbers for treason.


18 posted on 10/18/2019 5:39:50 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Teach a man to fish and he'll steal your gear and sell it)
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To: Impala64ssa

Lexington and Concord
Taught me alot.


19 posted on 10/18/2019 7:44:22 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (Despised by the Despicable!)
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To: Ex gun maker.

Thank you for the info.


20 posted on 10/18/2019 9:59:43 PM PDT by seawolf101 (Member LES DEPLORABLES)
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