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Naturally, I hope I'm totally wrong, and I hope that freepers will convince me that this scenario is impossible.
1 posted on 10/18/2019 6:17:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee

I don’t see that scenario happening. The GOP will cease to exist as a viable political party if they ever push Trump out of office.


2 posted on 10/18/2019 6:20:31 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave." -- Frederick Douglass)
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Yes you’re totally wrong. This is just another in a long line of doom and gloom posyts that are becoming more prevelent here. This is becoming the drudge report.


3 posted on 10/18/2019 6:21:21 AM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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No more than a third of those would vote for impeachment, Matt.

You are right to play the scenario, but way overestimating their willingness to impeach.


5 posted on 10/18/2019 6:23:08 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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Any Senator voting to impeach Donald Trump is voting to be an ex-Senator.


6 posted on 10/18/2019 6:25:43 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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Agree on all except Paul who I think would not vote to convict


7 posted on 10/18/2019 6:27:11 AM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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The blowback from such an action would be huge.

Cells, baby, cells.

8 posted on 10/18/2019 6:28:04 AM PDT by Lazamataz (We can be called a racist and we'll just smile. Because we don't care.)
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The logical conclusion to this imaginary scenario is Pence becomes President, but before the last words of the Oath are out of his mouth, Democrats are talking about his “collusion with the deposed Trump” and begin impeachment proceedings, which of course are heard in the Senate who removes Pence. This leads to the rise of President Pelosi and Swamp business as usual. Assuming that the American people go quietly into the night ...


9 posted on 10/18/2019 6:28:23 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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Articles of impeachment will be voted on in the House before the end of the year. What happens after that is anyone’s guess.


11 posted on 10/18/2019 6:28:46 AM PDT by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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Naturally, I hope I'm totally wrong, and I hope that freepers will convince me that this scenario is impossible.

Trump knows where all the skeletons are buried - and has the evidence. If you were a republican, and you had a skeleton in your closet, would you vote against Trump? He'd expose you in a heartbeat. Your only chance would be to stay on the good side of the Trump team.

12 posted on 10/18/2019 6:29:18 AM PDT by Go Gordon (I gave my dog Grady a last name - Trump - because he loves tweets.)
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I don’t think the senate would vote to convict for one simple reason... They have to know it would lead to massive civil unrest and wide scale rioting and would put their lives in danger. I don’t know if it would be CW2 but there are tens of millions of Americans who would not be happy. There are enough people in the US that would probably attempt to start picking them off.


13 posted on 10/18/2019 6:29:25 AM PDT by okkev68
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The trial will allow Trump to mount his defense. Currently all public is hearing is the leaks designed to hurt Trump. Trump will campaign in states where senators are weak and he is strong. Also he will make deals and put pressure on opponents like he does with foreign governments and California.


14 posted on 10/18/2019 6:31:05 AM PDT by Raycpa
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Throw in a sudden push by the GOPe for a Pence/Pompeo 2020 ticket (already in play with the glowing remark by Karl Rove Over the Turkey/Syria mediation) and you have your impeachment trial trigger.


16 posted on 10/18/2019 6:31:33 AM PDT by TADSLOS (You know why you can enjoy a day at the Zoo? Because walls work.)
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Anything is possible but most of those Republicans are smart enough to realize that in most states the Republican party will lose its base voters. What candidate would everyone who was furious that Trump got removed from power vote for in 2020? Or, since you are good at analyzing situations where passions have overtaken the law, would it even be possible to hold an ordinary election that the nation respected the outcome of in 2020 if Trump was removed from office?

Removing a president from office is an extreme political act. Any Republican who thinks they could roll back the opinions and ideas of the voters that elected President Trump by impeaching him is crazy. A more likely outcome is a chaotic political landscape where there will be truly radical political candidates and parties. The Democrats are already heading in that direction, if the Republicans do the same thing the liberals worst nightmare might well get elected after their initial victories.

18 posted on 10/18/2019 6:33:09 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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Gardner's a worthless POS, has been since he was my Rep. No matter how he might vote, he's done as a senator anyway. Chickenpooper's gonna run all over him.

Of course I hope I'm wrong about that, but I doubt I am.

21 posted on 10/18/2019 6:33:29 AM PDT by real saxophonist (Yeah, well, y'know that's just like, uh... your opinion, man.)
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Another stupid vanity.


22 posted on 10/18/2019 6:34:04 AM PDT by hotsteppa
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If your scenario pans out and Trump is convicted and removed from office, he’ll just run for president again in 2020 and win in a landslide.


23 posted on 10/18/2019 6:36:05 AM PDT by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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They remove Trump at their own risk. If they have no respect for voters, voters will have no respect for them. There will be blood.


27 posted on 10/18/2019 6:45:48 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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My opinion is that if there’s a trial or some forum where evidence is made public, attention will suddenly turn from impeachment to the corruption against Trump since he entered the race.

Therefore, I think there will never be a trial.


28 posted on 10/18/2019 6:47:18 AM PDT by cymbeline
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Trump isn’t getting removed from office...

Why are people so dense....

Look folks, here is the reality of impeachment...

Impeachment, this impeachment BS is ALL ABOUT INTERNAL DEMOCRAT PARTY POLITICS.... Its not about Trump...

The Democrats are heading to a slaughter this cycle in the presidential election and they know it, regardless of who their nominee is... However if the nominee is a “moderate” candidate, then the far whackadoo left goes “SEE WE DIDN’T GO LEFT ENOUGH!” and continues to rise in influence... If however the nominee is a leftist and they get slaughtered, then that argument is neutered, the party can moderate for the 2024 election when they actually have a chance of winning.

This “impeachment” nonsense is all about ensuring they get a leftist nominee... Why else do you think they are doing this on UKRAINE for crying out loud? They all claim that Trump is guilty of countless impeachable things since he won... but suddenly its all about Ukraine? Why? Simple, because they know that Ukraine will harm Biden and get him out of the way.

Once you realize this impeachment nonsense has NOTHING to do with Trump, but is all about internal Democrat party stuff, you can grab your popcorn and enjoy the show.

By allowing “impeachment” the far left are getting themselves knee capped, by giving them exactly what they want.

Impeachment will fire up the Trump base to DEFCON 5, it will anger and piss off the disenfranchised Ds and most of the I’s a as well.... ensuring that whoever D winds up with the nomination won’t only lose, but will be slaughtered.

Allowing the impeachment to go forward riles up the far left base, but it doesn’t bring in one more vote for them come election time and galvanizes most everyone else against them.

Even if they write and pass articles of impeachment in the house, the senate is not going to convict... The GOP is not going to have 20 people vote to convict over this garbage in the senate.. .its a NON STARTER....

There is ZERO calculus where this is a win at the ballot box for the Democrats this cycle.... so why do it? Simple, it will ensure the knee capping of the radical left wing of the D party so that the party can have a shot at 2024.... Knee capping the idiots by giving them exactly what they want....

Calm down folks... Enjoy the political theater...


30 posted on 10/18/2019 6:50:14 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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You are missing two more. You need 20. Thankfully you only have 18.


31 posted on 10/18/2019 6:56:38 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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