Posted on 10/18/2019 6:17:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee
From a rationale perspective, this makes complete logical sense, because there's little to no career advancement if the military simply protects core American interests such as the border. In contrast, the military makes for one of the most promising career alternatives if the US maintains a global posture, intervening/occupying every strategic niche around the world.
If the military does side with Congress, then the USA will have completed its arc from republic to fascism. At that point, the parallels with Nazi Germany become quite evident, as it was the military, junkers (GOPe + DNC) and banks that backed Hitler. From that point, American citizens would become slaves to the system, and their youth requisitioned to advance the interests of connected insiders.
One other observation: Orwell got it wrong. You don't need an oppressive force to force people to constantly toe the line. Rather, if the MIC sides with Congress in impeaching Trump, then it will merely be a continuation of the status quo established with Bush I and running through Hussein. In this type of environment, people can bitch and complain all day long without any real fear of retribution; it doesn't affect the outcome one iota.
Which is why I wonder if there really would be any civil unrest in such an event. Was Hussein so bad as to be willing to throw everything away? People still could travel freely, make money, have a job, raise a family, fly the Gadsden, promote the 2A, etc. It was essentially a soft totalitarianism, but possibly easy to live with given the alternative. And, an important rationalization process would be that why should someone fight the system today after their parents allowed the actual defeat of liberty to occur nearly 30 years ago?
Food for thought.
The backlash would be bad enough that
Trump is crowned Emperor instead.
One Trident sub can ruin a Communist’s whole day.
Patriots win.
(Red voters are too distributed for nukes to take them out,Rep.Swallows_well. But densely populated blue cities are another matter entirely.)
The mitch family is just as corrupt as the Biden family. And the evidence is those GOP RATS in the house who side with the DEMOrats on the American pullout from syria
>>They are the very definition of “combinations too powerful to be suppressed by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, or by the powers vested in the marshals by law”.<<
Exactly correct.
To me, Rand Paul is just pure wild card, that’s why I included him. He could just as well turn out to be a super-patriot defending Trump.
Rubio....I’m afraid he has a blackmail problem. Too many old “gay bathhouse” rumors about.
No idea on that one....
I’ve discussed the endgame with a relative who has lived in the chain of command off and on since 2009 (the discussions, that is). He’s spent quite a bit of time in a five sided building.
I love your writing, but I think the Forces could suppress a rebellion pretty quickly IF the chain of command remained intact.
So, I’ve been interested in mentally wargaming how that could come apart. There are two major ways for that to happen, IMO.
The first would be a failed, or incompletely successful, coup. I mean, if McRaven and Mattis are openly seditious, it doesn’t take much to dream up Site Y and a pool on the Preakness happening right now. Just imagine what sort of man would get a third or fourth star from Obama, and go from there.
The second would be a failed impeachment. Secret charges guarded to “protect national security”, a rocket docket Senate trial under John Roberts with all defense motions ruled out of order, Romney leading the charge speaking for the “donor community”, charges in the morning vote by 5:00pm 67-33, and Trump announces it’s unconstitutional (barely) and he’s not going anywhere. Then we move to a successful coup.
Scenario #1 I call a General’s Coup. Scenario #2 would be a Colonels and Majors Coup.
In the history of the planet, the Generals often fail where the Colonels succeed.
Anyway, as a great American once said, I’m too old to go bushwhacking, so I hope this all works out somehow. Unfortunately, I don’t think that’s the way to bet.
Both of your scenarios are intriguing, and it’s very sad that we are even discussing them as plausible.
I posted the Watergate thread the other day because it feels like, for the first time, that the bad guys have coalesced and are at or past their decision point.
I mean, how extraordinary is something like McRaven even THINKING, never mind publishing in the New York Times, the things he wrote?
We live in interesting times. You can almost see the Ukraine from the grassy knoll.
McRaven’s NYT piece is beyond belief.
Grassy Knolls ahead, indeed.
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