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“It’s impossible to fire federal employees.” Here are 20 real world examples.
wordpress ^ | September 18, 2018 | Dan from Squirrel Hill

Posted on 09/18/2018 2:33:53 PM PDT by grundle

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To: grundle

You CAN fire a Federal Employee. The problem is, it takes WORK to do so, and their SUPERVISORS are as lazy as their subordinates, or totally corrupt and complicit like Sessions and Rosenswine.


21 posted on 09/18/2018 3:51:58 PM PDT by ZULU (MAGA)
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To: grundle
Don't conflate Obama’s refusal to fire unruly federal employees with the right to fire unruly federal employees.

Reagan fired a boatload of air traffic controllers back in the eighties and he was right to do so.
My father, who was a mail carrier AND a union delegate, said that all federal employees have to abide by “binding arbitration” in their contract negotiations and cannot go on strike like non federal employees. Failure to do so means they can be fired.

So Reagan did.

22 posted on 09/18/2018 3:57:06 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
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To: Nifster
<,i>The guy being interviewed is a low level civil servant.

A post on an earlier thread looked up his salary and he makes $94K a year.

23 posted on 09/18/2018 3:58:59 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Ain't no reaching across the aisle in Hell.)
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To: kabar

Your thoughts?


24 posted on 09/18/2018 3:59:48 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Ain't no reaching across the aisle in Hell.)
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To: grundle

Not firing traitorous federal kakistocrats gives aid and comfort to the enemy.


25 posted on 09/18/2018 4:04:14 PM PDT by Carl Vehse
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To: grundle

This proves nothing— a bunch of people Obama “should have fired?” How about a list of federal employees who WERE fired?


26 posted on 09/18/2018 4:23:37 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (Enjoy the decline of the American empire.)
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To: Albion Wilde

That’s at best mid


27 posted on 09/18/2018 6:23:11 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: grundle

If they can’t immediately fire this pecksniff, he should be permanently rubber roomed. No phone, no PC, no wifi, no personal electronics allowed. Just give him a box of buttons to sort into colors. Dump them all back into the box at the end of the day and have him do it again tomorrow.


28 posted on 09/18/2018 6:28:08 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Albion Wilde
It is not impossible, but it is very, very difficult given the employee protections that are in place. Unless there is a serious felony-level crime, I doubt that someone would be fired.

I do know that the only way you can lose a federal pension is to commit treason. Otherwise, you can do anything including murder and not lose your pension.

We need to reform the federal personnel system. The permanent bureaucracy was meant to replace the spoils system and to create a professional cadre of non-partisan bureaucrats to have a smooth functioning government.

Approved on January 16, 1883, the Pendleton Act established a merit-based system of selecting government officials and supervising their work. Following the assassination of President James A. Garfield by a disgruntled job seeker, Congress passed the Pendleton Act in January of 1883.

Since then, the bureaucracy has emerged as the fourth branch of government, powerful and unelected. Federal employees have better benefits and greater job security than the private sector.

29 posted on 09/18/2018 9:29:43 PM PDT by kabar
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Down in the worker-bee world, it’s possible but tough and drawn-out...I managed to get rid of 2 while working as a DOD Civilian....of course, I had 24 years active duty before that so I had the sensibilities and the drive to get rid of scum. One took almost 9 months and the other was out in 6 months.


30 posted on 09/19/2018 3:10:26 AM PDT by trebb (So many "experts" with so little experience in what they preach....even here...)
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To: Nifster
That’s at best mid

Not only is is solidly upper-mid, but you said, and I quote, "The guy being interviewed is a low level civil servant." Hence my post.

The highest-paid members of Trump's inner circle make $169K, like Kellyanne Conway and Steve Miller.

2018 General Schedule (GS) Pay Scale

31 posted on 09/19/2018 1:34:37 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Ain't no reaching across the aisle in Hell.)
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We need to reform the federal personnel system.... the bureaucracy has emerged as the fourth branch of government, powerful and unelected.

An excellent comment, and I totally agree; but I'm stumped as to how it can be reformed now that educaton has been marxisized and deconstructed for the past two or three generations. Many educated people now believe that truth is relative and morality is individual.

Having grown up in the area in the 50s and 60s, I always heard that the Secret Service, as one example. preferred to interview Southerners and Mormons, who could be generally "profiled" to have had a strong moral upbringing. Now, the nuclear famly, the universities and even the churches have been despoiled by leftist activism, many tentacles of which are striving literally to outlaw the commonlaw values that sprang from religious principles. In our only slightly more leftist neighboring nation, Canada, a Christian university has recently had its law school dis-accredited, so that its graduates cannot take the bar exam or practice in Canada. They have also jailed pastors over preaching directly from the scriptures regarding same-sex mating. UK and most of EU have also imposed government over the church.

SCOTUS jurisprudence making a false equivalence between the "Nature's God" of the Declaration and the rights of atheists go back to 1948, and now we are reaping the whirlwind. Without an absolute standard of truth underpinning what we think of as honorable, ethical, or common decency in our actions, we are lost.

32 posted on 09/19/2018 2:03:27 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Ain't no reaching across the aisle in Hell.)
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To: Albion Wilde

He’s a civil servant. Depends on what grade he is assigned there steps in each grade. Nurse practitioners ( not managers) make 120000 plus a year


33 posted on 09/19/2018 3:55:19 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

My point is that someone above called him “low-level”, as if a job paying that much is of little consequence. Granted, many government employees “lean on their shovels” all day, but one imagines that their job descriptions ostensibly require them to perform above “low level” for that kind of money.


34 posted on 09/19/2018 8:41:55 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Ain't no reaching across the aisle in Hell.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Not really


35 posted on 09/19/2018 11:45:51 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

Lame.


36 posted on 09/20/2018 3:14:36 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Ain't no reaching across the aisle in Hell.)
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To: Albion Wilde

You apparently haven’t worked for the feds recently


37 posted on 09/20/2018 8:09:45 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Nifster

You’d be wrong.


38 posted on 09/20/2018 7:23:44 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Ain't no reaching across the aisle in Hell.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Well then if you are working for the feds you must be aware of the large number of slackers


39 posted on 09/20/2018 7:41:46 PM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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