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THE ANSWER: FEDERAL 'BABY BONDS'

Posted on 04/16/2018 7:46:37 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

My idea was to award every newborn with a $1k deposit in the S & P 500-no withdrawals until age 59. The Wall Street Journal(via Real Clear Politics) has a better one. A $5k low interest loan payable in 50 years. Invest in worldwide index funds. Limited withdrawals only for college. It's called skin in the game. Even Chuckie Shumer is mentioned positively.


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1 posted on 04/16/2018 7:46:37 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

If that’s the answer, I’m not sure I want to know what the question was..


2 posted on 04/16/2018 7:47:43 AM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ~u/base)
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My idea was to award every newborn with a $1k deposit in the S & P 500-no withdrawals until age 59.

You want me to contribute to giving someone else's kid a kilobuck?

Why don't their parents do that instead?

3 posted on 04/16/2018 7:49:16 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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$1K or $5K to have a baby? Let’s see, that should cover the first few months of having a baby. Then you’re out of pocket. .


4 posted on 04/16/2018 7:50:13 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Russians couldnt have done a better job destroying sacred American institutions than Democrats have)
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You do know this is a conservative forum, right?

The Bernie Sanders symposium is 3 doors down on the left..


5 posted on 04/16/2018 7:50:45 AM PDT by PGR88
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Just tack the cost to the hundreds of thousands of dollars of debt you’ve saddled them with. Brilliant!


6 posted on 04/16/2018 7:53:10 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Wisdom and education are different things. Don't confuse them.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

That idea is not new. And just imagine, with about 4 million babies born each year it would only cost $4 billion a year, a pittance compared to the current Federal budget of $4 trillion.

Still, the entire notion is extremely socialist. That’s why I’m opposed.

Parents could do it. There could be a tax incentive to do it. But free money, just because you were born? Never.


7 posted on 04/16/2018 8:02:02 AM PDT by tom h
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Seems like “free money at birth” (on top of whatever free money is already available to many) would just encourage more “anchor babies”, or those who tend to have children for the purpose of milking the freebies in the system.


8 posted on 04/16/2018 8:05:19 AM PDT by NEMDF
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You folks don’t get it. The WSJ version is a LOAN. The article alludes to welfare costs. Poor folk don’t invest. Parents? They won’t do it if they’re not doing it now. This would go a long way towards eliminating welfare and just not “as we know it”. Bernie wouldn’t support it and you all know it.


9 posted on 04/16/2018 8:10:17 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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This wold ultimately morph into a mechanism for financing the federal debt.


10 posted on 04/16/2018 8:10:18 AM PDT by Brilliant
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Anchor babies? As if you think it’s impossible to outlaw their eligibility. Aim lower my skeptic friends.


11 posted on 04/16/2018 8:12:10 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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Since you didn’t post an excerpt, link, or details of the article, maybe you should go easy on those of us, who didn’t “get it”.


12 posted on 04/16/2018 8:12:28 AM PDT by NEMDF
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And just imagine, with about 4 million babies born each year it would only cost $4 billion a year...

Plus another 20 billion to cover administration, kickbacks, and the building of a website by one of Michelle Obama's college friends. :)

13 posted on 04/16/2018 8:12:34 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ([CTRL]-[GALT]-[DELETE])
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"And our children will live, Mr. Beale, to see that perfect world in which there's no war or famine, oppression or brutality - one vast and ecumenical holding company, for whom all men will work to serve a common profit, in which all men will hold a share of stock - all necessities provided, all anxieties tranquilized, all boredom amused."
14 posted on 04/16/2018 8:14:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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Couples that have been married for 10 years should get it for free provided it’s going for that 3rd kid. Another long term problem solved. American born only.


15 posted on 04/16/2018 8:16:41 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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The problem is that 1K deposited now, will still be worth about $1K in 50 years.

unless you were really lucky and put it into stocks and bonds that beat the annual inflation rate, AND made a lot of money.

Like all the politicians seem to be able to do.


16 posted on 04/16/2018 8:16:46 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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Sorry. I’m not tech savvy. The article is by David Smick in the WSJ. It can be found on Real Clear Politics. As the welfare state hopefully comes down this would be a good alternative as long as big government goes down with it.


17 posted on 04/16/2018 8:23:48 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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Read the article. Stocks and bonds. Not a mattress that will be worth $1k. World-wide index funds. The money will go somewhere to places where there is less chance of a war or famine. South America is poised to grow exponentially. The money won’t follow until places like Brazil grow up. Lots of room for Europeans displaced by Muslim immigration. Over 50 years a lot can happen. At statehood Hawaii was REPUBLICAN and Alaska was Democrat.


18 posted on 04/16/2018 8:31:14 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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DIRTYSECRET, I applaud you for thinking "outside the box" In and of itself, that is not a bad thing..

Here is a link. America needs Federal "Baby Bonds"

Here is an excerpt:
"...Previous efforts at reform have been halted by demagoguery, but a bipartisan plan that also addresses the U.S. economy’s means of wealth distribution has a chance of success. Call it the Escape From Poverty Plan..."

I am not surprised by the blowback from conservatives, and rightly so. That bolded and underlined text in the excerpt is why. I am not for this for a variety of reasons, but the transparent one there is one that is enough for me to not consider it.

19 posted on 04/16/2018 8:36:40 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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I posted a link below at #19. As I said, I don’t think it is viable from any standpoint except to redistribute money, as my excerpt states.


20 posted on 04/16/2018 8:38:14 AM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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