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Vanity: Japan's "Solution" to School Violence - Corporal Punishment
self ^ | 2/15/2018 | self

Posted on 02/15/2018 12:42:39 PM PST by fruser1

Rush played a clip where someone said that Japan does not have school shootings because they don't have guns. I have an alternate reason:

In spite of it being technically illegal, Japan allows corporal punishment. The threshold of what makes it illegal is much higher than what it would be in the US.

From Wiki:

Japan

Although banned in 1947, corporal punishment is still commonly found in schools in the 2010s and particularly widespread in school sports clubs.

In late 1987, about 60% of junior high school teachers felt it was necessary, with 7% believing it was necessary in all conditions, 59% believing it should be applied sometimes and 32% disapproving of it in all circumstances; while at elementary (primary) schools, 2% supported it unconditionally, 47% felt it was necessary and 49% disapproved.

As recent as December 2012, a high school student committed suicide after having been constantly beaten by his basketball coach. An education ministry survey found that more than 10,000 students received illegal corporal punishment from more than 5,000 teachers across Japan in 2012 fiscal year alone.


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KEYWORDS: guncontrol; japan; parklandfl; rushlimbaugh; vanity
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My main point is actually that you cannot honestly compare the crime in one country vs another by focusing on one single factoid. You need to be intimately familiar with all aspects of both societies.
1 posted on 02/15/2018 12:42:39 PM PST by fruser1
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To: fruser1

This is silly.


2 posted on 02/15/2018 12:46:28 PM PST by nikos1121 (Tax cuts should be retro-active to January 1, 2017!!!!)
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To: fruser1

I hear that the Koreans are even tougher. If you screw up at work or at school your boss or teacher will punch you.


3 posted on 02/15/2018 12:48:21 PM PST by forgotten man
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My fratmate from university teaches English in Hokkaido & He’s seen it. (some) Teachers beat the sh*t out of students if they get out line. The parents whine about it but cant do as thing about because most gakuen (high school) principals are hard asses unlike the pc-run schools in America.


4 posted on 02/15/2018 12:49:52 PM PST by beergarden
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To: fruser1

Japan has an almost minuscule crime rate across the board when compared to any other industrialized country.



5 posted on 02/15/2018 12:50:02 PM PST by outpostinmass2
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To: nikos1121

uh...no...its the ‘no consequences’ mentality is “silly”.

Allowing GOD back into schools would also be a huge help.

Since He was banned, Satan has filled the void.


6 posted on 02/15/2018 12:51:19 PM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: forgotten man

I was stationed in Korea in the mid-90s. Due to my position I had a lot more interaction with the ROK Army and KNP than most US soldiers. I remember seeing junior ROK officers enforce discipline with a steel rod...not an outright beating mind you, but a good, motivational swat with it from time to time.


7 posted on 02/15/2018 12:55:26 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: fruser1

Kids are mostly raised with no spanky and parentless. Seems we are just now seeing the fruits of this, decades of increasingly career mommies and hands-off alpha dads. Blech.


8 posted on 02/15/2018 12:58:56 PM PST by RitaOK
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To: Joe 6-pack

In Vietnam I saw a ROK junior officer or NCO give some ROK troops the same treatment. They were standing at attention and he went down the line smacking each one on the chest.


9 posted on 02/15/2018 1:04:29 PM PST by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: G Larry

You think beating this kid would have helped this situation?


10 posted on 02/15/2018 1:06:57 PM PST by nikos1121 (Tax cuts should be retro-active to January 1, 2017!!!!)
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To: outpostinmass2

I would argue, that it’s 99% because their society is 99% Japanese.


11 posted on 02/15/2018 1:07:50 PM PST by nikos1121 (Tax cuts should be retro-active to January 1, 2017!!!!)
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There was a story in Singapore some years ago about a teenager who was arrested for vandalizing public property. It turned out he was the child of one of the top-ranking members of the country's government (maybe the VP or Deputy Prime Minister).

The punishment for his crime was a public flogging.

His father insisted on having it carried out on national television.

Damn right, you can't compare crime statistics in different countries. LOL.

12 posted on 02/15/2018 1:08:53 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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Holding the kid accountable at every stage of his life would surely have helped.

You cannot have a society where someone can post YouTube videos of himself torturing animals with impunity -- and then treat him as a responsible, law-abiding adult simply because his juvenile records are sealed and his medical records are confidential.

Keep in mind that these "random" mass-casualty events are rarely seen outside modern industrial countries. The reason for this is simple. Primitive and aboriginal cultures don't have any room for @ssholes who give every indication that they are going to be depraved, disruptive members of the society. If this kid had living with the Sioux tribe 150 years ago, he probably would have been burned at a stake or fed to wolves the first time he tortured an animal in the encampment.

13 posted on 02/15/2018 1:13:36 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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Good dad. Good country for allowing good parenting.


14 posted on 02/15/2018 1:15:43 PM PST by Hieronymus (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton)
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To: nikos1121

So, you don’ know the difference between “corporal punishment” and “beating”?

Are you at all aware of the concept that awareness of consequences is often a deterrent in itself?


15 posted on 02/15/2018 1:16:45 PM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Turkish mil just kill the offender - watch them beat a low ranking guy with pail filled with cement until his head split open.


16 posted on 02/15/2018 1:21:54 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Alberta's Child

Actually if it’s the one I am thinking of, the kid was a spoiled American and his daddy was a US corporate exec in Singapore. He was “keying” cars. If I remember this right he got the whacks but not the full number required for that vandalism crime. These weren’t “love taps”, they were administer by a trained guy.


17 posted on 02/15/2018 1:35:34 PM PST by Reily
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No — it was a different incident. The one I’m thinking about was definitely a local citizen of Singapore in a well-connected political family.


18 posted on 02/15/2018 1:38:17 PM PST by Alberta's Child ("Go ahead, bite the Big Apple ... don't mind the maggots.")
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To: fruser1

Why not allow fist-fighting between aggressive students like the NHL? It releases a lot of the bottled-up tension...[/sarc]


19 posted on 02/15/2018 1:47:25 PM PST by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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To: Alberta's Child

Ok

For the American there was an attempt to put pressure on the Singapore government not to implement the punishment.


20 posted on 02/15/2018 1:58:32 PM PST by Reily
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