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Pentagon docs reveal Army MHS plagued with problems (Sig Sauer)
guns.com ^ | Feb. 1, 2018 | Jacki Billings

Posted on 02/02/2018 5:30:01 AM PST by PROCON

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To: IndispensableDestiny

They should stick with tried and true 1911. Why fix something that isn’t broken?


21 posted on 02/02/2018 6:14:31 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bringbackthedraft

Amen, 1911 or bust, best pistol ever made and still is.


22 posted on 02/02/2018 6:15:31 AM PST by Bulwyf
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
wonder why the military complex thought it necessary to switch from the Beretta M9. Money?

Good question.

FYI, Sig's bid for the MHS came in $100,000,000, (one hundred million dollars), under Glocks.

23 posted on 02/02/2018 6:16:15 AM PST by PROCON (Happy Trump Year!)
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To: glock rocks

M-11 = Sig P228

Don’t think they make it anymore due to the alloy frame.


24 posted on 02/02/2018 6:18:30 AM PST by catman67 (14 gauge?)
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To: old-ager
1911's can and have been modified to run double stacks, bringing the capacity up to 14 or so.

It does necessitate a larger grip...which most of the pussified panty-waists (example: Chubby-cheeked faggot Bradly Manning) cannot handle.

But the 1911 has stood the test of time...period.

I have trained so many youngsters in the use of it...from 115 pound giggling school girls, to hulking farm boys with wheat chaff still in their hair...and all, ALL learned to effectively use the 1911.

It ain't rocket science.

The 1911 is the MOST user-friendly gun platform that the US Armed Forces has ever had...or ever will have.

This stupid crap with the Beretta, the Sig, the Glock...all politically driven.

Legend has it that God appeared before John Moses Browning and gave him the 1911 design.

Who can argue against something like that?

Throw out all that plastic crap and go back to a proven design.

25 posted on 02/02/2018 6:19:32 AM PST by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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To: PROCON

They should have chosen the S&W MP


26 posted on 02/02/2018 6:20:42 AM PST by RoadieFan
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To: OldSmaj

The 1911 might be the most naturally pointing sidearm ever made. The “2011” double stack is not thicker than many of the double stacks considered. I would argue that 9x23 would be a better coice than .45 but I would take either.


27 posted on 02/02/2018 6:51:11 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: PROCON

If they want a 9mm they should issue Hi Powers.

L


28 posted on 02/02/2018 6:54:47 AM PST by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: gdc61

I have owned to Sigs. Never had an issue with either one. I’m not a total gun guru, but I was never let down with the reliability of either the 9 mm or 40 cal.


29 posted on 02/02/2018 6:56:45 AM PST by MGunny
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To: catman67

The Sig P228 is a good, accurate gun, and it doesn’t have a trigger safe.

But it is an alloy frame, and for some reason, everyone seems to love the plastic frames.


30 posted on 02/02/2018 6:59:13 AM PST by kosciusko51
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To: PROCON

I’ve got 1000 rds. thru my P320RX with no problems.

I did install a lighter trigger.

I have no interest in the recall for drop safety.

Love the weapon!


31 posted on 02/02/2018 7:06:19 AM PST by G Larry (There is no great virtue in bargaining with the Devil)
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To: iontheball

Exactly my first thought! This went into the field like this. What the...?


32 posted on 02/02/2018 7:09:46 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: PROCON

Woah. Didn’t know that. Still, to have these go into service with seemingly incomplete testing is difficult to grasp. You have this enormous contract with a product directly involving life and death, and basis, and significant, issue are found after distribution??


33 posted on 02/02/2018 7:12:52 AM PST by Obadiah
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To: PROCON
an empty primed cartridge would discharge if the striker was struck

Can someone explain to me what that means? How would the striker get struck?

The Glocks are touted as not discharging unless the trigger gets depressed. Drop it from any distance, run over it, use it as a hammer. If the trigger isn't manipulated, it ain't firing. At least, that's what's they say.

34 posted on 02/02/2018 7:14:18 AM PST by CodeJockey (Trump... The exorcist of Cultural Marxism)
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To: PROCON

Don’t worry, they’re still under warranty.


35 posted on 02/02/2018 9:59:40 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Too big, bulky and heavy for “people with small hands”.


36 posted on 02/02/2018 10:07:07 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: OldSmaj
The 1911 is the MOST user-friendly gun platform that the US Armed Forces has ever had...or ever will have.

not quite user friendly, I had to install a ambidextrous safety to make it good.

37 posted on 02/02/2018 11:26:03 AM PST by Redcitizen
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To: Redcitizen
...I had to install a ambidextrous safety to make it good.

Sheesh!...you left-handed people want everything your way, don't you?

Actually, I think an ambi safety is a great idea for a 1911.

Easily installed, doesn't affect the operation of the weapon in the least, and works for everybody, particularly in a weak-hand/strong-hand scenario.

A long time ago, I trained soldiers with the lefty disease on weak-hand safety manipulation...they got it pretty quick.

But I agree, ambi safety is a good thing.

Not all holsters are in agreement, though, but that's a negligible expense.

38 posted on 02/02/2018 12:42:30 PM PST by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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To: smokingfrog
Ah yes. For the wimmen folk. And..."others". Figgers.

Not fer nuthin' but I wouldn't trade my 92FS for anything.

39 posted on 02/02/2018 1:21:48 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Perhaps we should care less about who we may offend and care more about who we may inspire.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

A good gun ... But the Glock 17 is still #1 in my book.


40 posted on 02/02/2018 4:37:03 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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