Matthews: How can these conservatives believe gun rights are God-given and precede the Constitution?

Hot Air ^ | October 6, 2017 | Allahpundit

[M Kehoe]

Hi.

“The right to defend oneself is god given and natural. “

Correct, although the left doesn’t believe in natural law or nature’s G-d.

5.56mm

[Political Junkie Too]

It doesn’t guarantee “arms” so much as it guarantees the right to defend life and liberty through force if necessary.

"...being necessary to the security of a free State..."

Liberals always focus on the part about "a well regulated Militia," and conservatives focus on the part about "shall not be infringed," but the most important part is line quoted above.

The right that is endowed by our creator is the right to live securely and freely. "The right of the people to keep and bear Arms" is the means to that end. The "militia" is the "state-at-large."

-PJ

[M Kehoe]

Bttt.

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[Svartalfiar]

The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government,

Huh? That really doesn't make much sense. All the other amendments say 'Congress shall not', yet the 2nd says 'the right of the people'... That implies a much more, if not total, absolute right.

[Kickass Conservative]

When a Liberal opens their mouth about abolishing the Second Amendment they unknowingly justify the reason it exists.

[joma89]

All that you wrote in your post is word gymnastics from activist judges.

The Constitution is the supreme law of the land and is not only meant to limit government on the national level but also stop Unconstitutional government at the state and local level. Otherwise, states could and would restrict freedom of speech, freedom of religion and all the other freedoms in the Bill of Rights, including the right defined in the 2nd Amendment. That was the entire point of the original Bill of Rights. 5 justices, with the stoke of a pen, can NOT nullify those rights, even though for years they have tried and at times, have temporarily succeeded.

However, when the fight is kept up, as it was in the District of Washington v. Heller case, the individual right to have a gun was once again reinstated, al-be-it by a 5 to 4 vote yet again.

In the end, evil can only triumph if good men choose to do nothing.

JoMa

[Albion Wilde]

Matthews: How can these conservatives believe gun rights are God-given and precede the Constitution?

Matthews:
1) Go to a in a gun-free zone,
2) provide a gun to yourself and the same type of gun to an NRA member,
3) point your gun at the NRA member, and
4) he or she will kindly demonstrate how that right is God-given.

[sourcery]

Rights only exist as a treaty of peace between individuals. That’s why you only have those rights you concede that everyone else also has, and do not have rights you deny others. Self-defense denialists obviously don’t understand that, or they’d stop advocating for their own enslavement.

[2001convSVT]

It's worth saying again, “THEY (The media and communist traitors who call themselves democrats) INCITED THIS VIOLENCE AND SHOULD BE ARRESTED.”.

[central_va]

The second amendment is about the peoples ability to overthrow a tyrannical government. The people have a right to the same personal firepower as the government.

It has nothing to do with hunting or self defense. Those two things are simple by products of the 2A.

[Godebert]

".......they’ve read a treatise or two on natural law while in college....."

I doubt it. If they had, Obama would never have been able to usurp the presidency.

[arthurus]

On a practical level, Americana’ general possession of guns preceded the Constitution by a century and a half.

[arthurus]

That means it already exists and is absolute and is severely infringed at all levels of government everywhere in the country.

[high info voter]

“LIKE”