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Matthews: How can these conservatives believe gun rights are God-given and precede the Constitution?
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| October 6, 2017
| Allahpundit
Posted on 10/07/2017 2:19:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: RC one
Hi.
“The right to defend oneself is god given and natural. “
Correct, although the left doesn’t believe in natural law or nature’s G-d.
5.56mm
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posted on
10/07/2017 8:31:44 AM PDT
by
M Kehoe
To: 2ndDivisionVet
It doesnt guarantee arms so much as it guarantees the right to defend life and liberty through force if necessary. "...being necessary to the security of a free State..."
Liberals always focus on the part about "a well regulated Militia," and conservatives focus on the part about "shall not be infringed," but the most important part is line quoted above.
The right that is endowed by our creator is the right to live securely and freely. "The right of the people to keep and bear Arms" is the means to that end. The "militia" is the "state-at-large."
-PJ
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posted on
10/07/2017 8:33:24 AM PDT
by
Political Junkie Too
(The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
To: high info voter
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posted on
10/07/2017 8:42:39 AM PDT
by
M Kehoe
To: DoodleBob
The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government,
Huh? That really doesn't make much sense. All the other amendments say 'Congress shall not', yet the 2nd says 'the right of the people'... That implies a much more, if not total, absolute right.
To: 2ndDivisionVet
When a Liberal opens their mouth about abolishing the Second Amendment they unknowingly justify the reason it exists.
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posted on
10/07/2017 9:05:51 AM PDT
by
Kickass Conservative
(The way Liberals carry on about Deportation, you would think "Mexico" was Spanish for "Auschwitz".)
To: DoodleBob
All that you wrote in your post is word gymnastics from activist judges.
The Constitution is the supreme law of the land and is not only meant to limit government on the national level but also stop Unconstitutional government at the state and local level. Otherwise, states could and would restrict freedom of speech, freedom of religion and all the other freedoms in the Bill of Rights, including the right defined in the 2nd Amendment. That was the entire point of the original Bill of Rights. 5 justices, with the stoke of a pen, can NOT nullify those rights, even though for years they have tried and at times, have temporarily succeeded.
However, when the fight is kept up, as it was in the District of Washington v. Heller case, the individual right to have a gun was once again reinstated, al-be-it by a 5 to 4 vote yet again.
In the end, evil can only triumph if good men choose to do nothing.
JoMa
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posted on
10/07/2017 9:47:02 AM PDT
by
joma89
To: 2ndDivisionVet
Matthews: How can these conservatives believe gun rights are God-given and precede the Constitution?Matthews:
1) Go to a in a gun-free zone,
2) provide a gun to yourself and the same type of gun to an NRA member,
3) point your gun at the NRA member, and
4) he or she will kindly demonstrate how that right is God-given.
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posted on
10/07/2017 12:06:33 PM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
(I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
To: DoodleBob
Rights only exist as a treaty of peace between individuals. That’s why you only have those rights you concede that everyone else also has, and do not have rights you deny others. Self-defense denialists obviously don’t understand that, or they’d stop advocating for their own enslavement.
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posted on
10/07/2017 1:04:41 PM PDT
by
sourcery
(Non Aquiesco: "I do not consent" (Latin))
To: high info voter
It's worth saying again, “THEY (The media and communist traitors who call themselves democrats) INCITED THIS VIOLENCE AND SHOULD BE ARRESTED.”.
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posted on
10/07/2017 5:50:40 PM PDT
by
2001convSVT
(Going Galt as fast as I can.)
To: the OlLine Rebel; RC one
The second amendment is about the peoples ability to overthrow a tyrannical government. The people have a right to the same personal firepower as the government.
It has nothing to do with hunting or self defense. Those two things are simple by products of the 2A.
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posted on
10/07/2017 7:21:26 PM PDT
by
central_va
(I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
".......theyve read a treatise or two on natural law while in college....."I doubt it. If they had, Obama would never have been able to usurp the presidency.
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posted on
10/07/2017 7:25:09 PM PDT
by
Godebert
(CRUZ: Born in a foreign land to a foreign father.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
On a practical level, Americana’ general possession of guns preceded the Constitution by a century and a half.
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posted on
10/07/2017 7:30:11 PM PDT
by
arthurus
To: uncbob
That means it already exists and is absolute and is severely infringed at all levels of government everywhere in the country.
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posted on
10/07/2017 7:33:47 PM PDT
by
arthurus
To: 2001convSVT
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posted on
10/08/2017 4:38:03 AM PDT
by
high info voter
(Liberal leftists would have "un-friended" Paul Revere!)
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