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Matthews: How can these conservatives believe gun rights are God-given and precede the Constitution?
Hot Air ^ | October 6, 2017 | Allahpundit

Posted on 10/07/2017 2:19:46 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The 2nd Amendment is designed to protect Americans from Demonicrats.


21 posted on 10/07/2017 5:10:41 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (.)
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To: central_va

Would our forefathers want us owning AR15s? You betcha.


22 posted on 10/07/2017 5:12:38 AM PDT by RC one (The 2nd Amendment is a doomsday provision, one designed for those exceptionally rare circumstances)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t believe in these rights just because they’re in the Constitution. They’re in the Constitution because we believe they are “God-given and preceding the Constitution.”


23 posted on 10/07/2017 5:27:52 AM PDT by Mafe
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To: Pollster1

Bump


24 posted on 10/07/2017 5:38:02 AM PDT by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))
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To: RC one

Our government is in place to serve the people. Once our government removes our tools of protection, our government immediately becomes our master.

DO NOT BE AFRAID OF YOUR GOVERNMENT. Let your senators and representatives know exactly how you feel.


25 posted on 10/07/2017 5:38:31 AM PDT by Demanwideplan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Freedom from tyranny is our God given right and guns are the means to protect that.


26 posted on 10/07/2017 5:50:51 AM PDT by kalee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dunno Chris, perhaps maybe guns gave us the Constitution? Maybe?


27 posted on 10/07/2017 6:04:19 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The God given rights are the rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. The firearm, as an individual liberty bestowed to all citizens in the Constitutional Republic we call the United States of America, provides protection to the same.

JoMa


28 posted on 10/07/2017 6:06:04 AM PDT by joma89
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Not at all surprising, from the crowd who believes themselves to be the highest moral authority.


29 posted on 10/07/2017 6:11:52 AM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh, and what the hell’s he talking about at the end here where Republicans supposedly insist on the right to bazookas and tanks?

The right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

30 posted on 10/07/2017 6:18:40 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: high info voter

You should post this on every gun control or anti-Trump thread.


31 posted on 10/07/2017 6:20:54 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: RC one; blackdog

32 posted on 10/07/2017 6:23:30 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob

Dangerous Freedom..
Or
Peaceful Slavery.


33 posted on 10/07/2017 6:29:26 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well, Chris, it all starts way before Black’s Law, which merely codified personal weapons.


34 posted on 10/07/2017 6:46:34 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; RC one; Big Red Badger; blackdog; Vision; sourcery; Pollster1; dila813; ...
Unfortunately for Tingles, the Supreme Court finds disfavor with his view.

In United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875), in a 5-4 majority opinion (and where the dissenters didn't explicitly reject this part), the Court said:

6. The right to bear arms is not granted by the Constitution; neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The Second Amendments means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress, and has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the National Government.

...and...

The right there specified is that of "bearing arms for a lawful purpose." This is not a right granted by the Constitution. Neither is it in any manner dependent upon that instrument for its existence. The second amendment declares that it shall not be infringed, but this, as has been seen, means no more than that it shall not be infringed by Congress. This is one of the amendments that has no other effect than to restrict the powers of the national government, leaving the people to look for their protection against any violation by their fellow citizens of the rights it recognizes...

Perhaps some feel it antiquated, but St George Tucker may have nailed it (without the internet or a Whole Foods!!) in 1803 when he wrote:

This may be considered as the true palladium of liberty. . . . The right of self defence is the first law of nature

35 posted on 10/07/2017 6:47:40 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: RC one

Would George Washington go a Colt or a DPMS?


36 posted on 10/07/2017 6:50:30 AM PDT by GingisK
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To: high info voter
3. Obama asked his supporters to rise up.

"If they bring a knife to a fight, we bring a gun"

37 posted on 10/07/2017 6:52:58 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Hillary: Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass GO. Do not collect 2 billion dollars.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, “gun” rights are NATURAL rights, and by NATURE they “precede” the Constitution.

One does not “grant” rights. They are part of nature. The Constitution/BOR only RECOGNIZES and ACKNOWLEDGES those NATURAL rights. To be clear to anyone that indeed, they will not abridge what comes naturally.


38 posted on 10/07/2017 8:20:35 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: high info voter
Good list but you omitted a few.

In other words, it is a lot worse than just the comments on your list.

39 posted on 10/07/2017 8:23:34 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (Islam delenda est.)
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To: central_va

Oh yes it does. Because indeed, defending oneself is NATURAL as is surviving by finding food.

Yes, it was also recognized that groups of people might defend themselves against their own government, but that does not preclude enshrining basic criminal defense or hunting.

These are all natural rights, and the point of the BOR was to ensure they were recognized and not ignored/violated.


40 posted on 10/07/2017 8:24:18 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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