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Disparity in Justifiable Homicides Does not Signify Institutional Racism
Gun Watch ^ | 27 August, 2017 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/30/2017 1:21:03 PM PDT by marktwain

A white man killed Robinson and wounded Kennedy after they kidnapped him, robbed him, and threatened to rape and kill his wife.

The Marshal project claims to be non-partisan. It admits that it is not neutral. In a recent report, it shows that more justifiable homicides are committed by whites against black attackers than the national average. The report implies that this is because of institutionalized racism.

Three things stand out from the report. It is obsessed with racial disparities, with the strong implication that they are caused by institutionalized racism, particularly white racism. It ignores previous research showing that the FBI statistics represent only a small fraction of justifiable homicides. And, it misrepresents the criteria for a homicide to be considered justifiable in the FBI reporting system. From themarshalproject.org:
In almost 17 percent of cases when a black man was killed by a non-Hispanic white civilian over the last three decades, the killing was categorized as justifiable, which is the term used when a police officer or a civilian kills someone committing a crime or in self-defense. Overall, the police classify fewer than 2 percent of homicides committed by civilians as justifiable.

The disparity persists across different cities, different ages, different weapons and different relationships between killer and victim.

To understand the gaps, The Marshall Project obtained dozens of data sets from the Federal Bureau of Investigation and examined various combinations of killer and victim. Two types of “justifiable homicide” are noted: “felon killed by private citizen” or “felon killed by police officer.” (In a bit of circular logic, the person killed is presumptively classified as a felon, since the homicide could be justified only if a life was threatened, which is a crime.)
The use of quotes around "justifiable homicide" in the report is telling. It is possible that racism is a component in the disparity of the number of justifiable homicides where white people justifiably kill black people.  But racism works both ways. There are numerous "hate whitey" threads in current urban black culture. An obvious alternative is that black men are far more likely to commit crimes that justify homicide against them by white people than white men are to commit crimes that justify homicide against them by black people.

In 2012, there were 5.6 times as much violence committed by blacks against whites as compared to violence committed by whites against blacks. From cityjournal.org:
In 2012, blacks committed 560,600 acts of violence against whites, and whites committed 99,403 acts of violence against blacks, according to data from the National Crime Victimization Survey provided to the author:
The Marshall Project found that after adjustments, white on black homicides were found to be 4.7 times as likely to be justified as the average. That number is remarkable close the the disparity of black crime against white people.
Even after adjusting for the ages of the killer and victim, their relationship and the weapon used, the likelihood of a white-on-black-male case being called justifiable was still 4.7 times higher than in other cases.
The Marshall Project report is marred by using only FBI Uniform Crime Reports (UCR) on justifiable homicides. Justifiable homicides recorded by the FBI system are known to be a fraction of the justifiable homicides that occur. Both Clayton Cramer and Gary Kleck have found that FBI UCR reports only catch about 1/5 of justifiable homicides. The Marshal Project report minimizes this elephant in the room by admitting that:
For instance, Trayvon Martin’s death is listed as simply “other,” not as “justifiable,” though his killer was later tried and acquitted. That could mean that “justifiable” cases of all kinds are underreported.
Again, notice the quotes around "justifiable", even though a jury found that the killing of Treyvon Martin was justifiable. This happened in spite of the heavy hand of the media, and significant political pressure to convict George Zimmerman long before the facts of the case were heard.

The FBI only accepts justified homicides that occur during the commission of another crime. The Marshal Project authors call that "a bit of circular logic". They are wrong.  The FBI uses an extremely limited definition of justifiable homicide.    From the UCR Handbook04(PDF), page 17:

NOTE: Justifiable homicide, by definition, occurs in conjunction with other offenses.

Therefore,

the crime being committed when the justifiable homicide took place must be reported as a separate offense. Reporting agencies should take care to ensure that they do not classify a killing as justifiable or excusable solely on the claims of self-defense or on the action of a coroner, prosecutor, grand jury, or court.

The following scenario illustrates an incident known to law enforcement that reporting agencies would not consider Justifiable Homicide:
17. While playing cards, two men got into an argument. The first man attacked the second with a broken bottle. The second man pulled a gun and killed his attacker. The police arrested the shooter; he claimed self-defense.  

 The UCR even goes so far as to direct reporting agencies *not* to take into account the findings of coroners, prosecutors, grand juries or courts about whether a homicide is justifiable or not; only the FBI's extremely limited definition is to be used. In contradiction to the reporting in the Marshal report, it is unlikely that someone who was justifiably killed in self defense will be recorded as committing a separate crime during the attack. There is no reason to do so. The attacker will not be charged. They are dead. This is likely a major reason why the FBI reports of justifiable homicide are so low.

If, however, the homicide occurs during an armed robbery, it is more likely to be recorded as justified. Blacks commit armed robbery at far higher rates than do whites.

In summary, the Marshal report ignores the possibility of black racism as a motive for a larger number of black attacks. It ignores the limits of the FBI Uniform Crime Reports of justified homicides.  It ignores the fact of much larger numbers of violent crime committed by blacks that would justify defensive homicides.

All of those factors do a better job of explaining the disparity of justifiable homicides of whites against blacks than do "institutional racism".

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; homicide; justified; racism
Black people illegally attack white people much more often than white people illegally attack black people.
1 posted on 08/30/2017 1:21:03 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

“Black people illegally attack white people much more often than white people illegally attack black people.”

Now that is the damn truth.


2 posted on 08/30/2017 1:26:28 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: marktwain
Disparity in Justifiable Homicides Does not Signify Institutional Racism

Try telling that to an unhinged, batchit loony, raving and ranting, red-faced, spittle-flecked libtard.

And the crazy ones are even worse.

3 posted on 08/30/2017 1:27:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (0bama. The Legacy is a lie. The lie is the Legacy.)
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To: marktwain

We live in a bizzaro world where academics analyzing statistics always see “racial disparities” as prima facie evidence of institutional bigotry and active discrimination.


4 posted on 08/30/2017 1:31:21 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: marktwain
While playing cards, two men got into an argument. The first man attacked the second with a broken bottle. The second man pulled a gun and killed his attacker. The police arrested the shooter; he claimed self-defense.

Stagger Lee?

5 posted on 08/30/2017 1:33:05 PM PDT by Ken H (Best election ever!)
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To: marktwain

Why is the George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case relevant to white-on-black killings? Zimmerman is 3/8 Hispanic, 1/8 black, and 1/2 white. Historically people who were one-eighth black were counted as black, but the media labeled Zimmerman as white because it fit their agenda to do so.


6 posted on 08/30/2017 1:38:30 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus
the media labeled Zimmerman as white because it fit their agenda to do so.

The media seized upon the ease of the public mind in accepting Zimmerman as white because they wanted to promote the "white man kills black boy" meme.

They succeeded in doing so by ignoring/not reporting the facts of the situation and created a martyr where none would have otherwise existed.

The stupid liberal mind continues the myth.

It's why we call them stupid liberals.

They wanted a cause, they created one out of whole cloth...and now they believe it as though it came straight from the Gospel.

7 posted on 08/30/2017 1:59:06 PM PDT by OldSmaj (The only thing washed on a filthy liberal is their damned brains.)
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To: marktwain

According to the latest statistics …

White murderers kill white people 91 percent of the time and kill black people 7 percent of the time (leaving 2 percent shall we say unaccounted for). This is more or less, you know, proportionate to dah underlying population, or words to dat effect, know what I mean?

BUT …

Black murderers, on de uder hand, they kill white people only 15 percent of the time. 15 percent I tells ya. And, black people, they kill other black people 83 effing percent of the time. Jezz! What do they have against black people?

It’s racist, I tell you. Racist.

They should have, you know, like an affirmative action plan or something, to get the numbers more, you know, proportionate. That’s it. Proportionate.

Like I was telling Vinny back at the club, youse better watch your numbers so you don’t give those EEOC people no prima facie evidence of racism. ‘Cause, you know, everybody’s lookin’ to muscle in to your territory.


8 posted on 08/30/2017 2:25:58 PM PDT by Redmen4ever (u)
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To: marktwain

Justifiable homicides should be strictly rationed by race and gender by a federal office to which application must be made and approved.


9 posted on 08/30/2017 4:26:17 PM PDT by arthurus
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To: marktwain

When blacks are 235 times more likely to commit murder than a white, it isn’t racism, it is prudence.


10 posted on 08/30/2017 5:35:27 PM PDT by CodeToad (Victorious warriors WIN first, then go to war! Go TRUMP!!!)
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