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"Nazism" as per wikipedia
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Posted on 08/15/2017 7:52:22 AM PDT by bryan999

National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsɪzəm, ˈnæ-/[1]), is the ideology and set of practices associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party, Nazi Germany, and other far-right groups. Sometimes characterised as a form of fascism that incorporates scientific racism and antisemitism, Nazism's development was influenced by German nationalism (especially Pan-Germanism), the Völkisch movement and the anti-communist Freikorps paramilitary groups that emerged during the Weimar Republic after Germany's defeat in First World War.

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"...associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party, Nazi Germany, and other far-right groups."

So at what point do conservatives start demanding that liberals stop calling "Nazisim" a "far right" ideology? After all, it refers to "National Socialism" and the last I checked, "socialism" is LEFT.

The so-called "right" demands more individual freedom and more liberty and more private property, not less. Conservatives are NOT collectivists in any way shape, or form, always and forever.

But back to this wikipedia page... Liberals always want us to curb our language... so when can we start curbing theirs?

Just askin ....

1 posted on 08/15/2017 7:52:23 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: bryan999

“Far right” was a trick google did a couple years back.

Communists and Nazis want MORE government control.

Conservatives (traditionally called ‘liberals’ ironically enough) want LESS government control.

Hitler viewed himself and his part as Socialist (hence the name). He was, however, adamantly opposed to Bolshevism which he felt was a Jewish conspiracy.


2 posted on 08/15/2017 7:54:44 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: bryan999
Conservatives are NOT collectivists

Collectivism is the key word. The Bolsheviks, the German Nazis and the Italian Fascists were all collectivists and they all came directly out of the tradition of socialism.

American Conservatives support the US Constitution and our tradition of individual worth and personal responsibility in a society with LIMITED government.

We are not them.

Of course, to control the vocabulary, you need to control the media and the schools.

3 posted on 08/15/2017 7:56:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Islam: You have to just love a "religion" based on rape and sex slavery.)
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To: bryan999

And this is why open-sourced references are worthless and never allowed in real discussion or papers....


4 posted on 08/15/2017 7:57:40 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of and they are allowed to vote!War")
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To: bryan999

It was Stalin who called the Nazis “Right Wing”. The Communist front groups in the West repeated the new Stalin-approved definition.
One can be to the right of Stalin and still be FAR to the left.


5 posted on 08/15/2017 7:57:55 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: bryan999

Not while they own the media.


6 posted on 08/15/2017 7:58:56 AM PDT by Pecos (A Constitutional republic shouldnÂ’t need to hold its collective breath in fear of lawyers.)
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To: bryan999
so when can we start curbing theirs?

When Conservatives gain control of the MSM.

Next question?

7 posted on 08/15/2017 7:59:24 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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“The party on the left is now the party on the right”

Fact is, right in one country may be left in another. They are just labels.

It’s looking like the leader of the white supremist group in Charlotte is a known left winger in the US who was a participant in Occupy Wall street and an Obama supporter - and pretty much agreed with everything on the left’s opinion list.


8 posted on 08/15/2017 7:59:47 AM PDT by robroys woman
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> it refers to “National Socialism” and the last I checked, “socialism” is LEFT <

The Left believes in a strong central government, with many rules and regulations. The individual serves the society.
The Right believes in a weak central government, with few rules and regulations. Personal freedoms are cherished.

So which view is more National Socialist?


9 posted on 08/15/2017 8:00:58 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: Army Air Corps
It was Stalin who called the Nazis “Right Wing”. The Communist front groups in the West repeated the new Stalin-approved definition.

Stalin always referred to the Nazis as "Fascists", calling them "Nazis", or "National Socialists", would have been admitting that they were fellow socialists.

10 posted on 08/15/2017 8:01:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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“The party on the left is now the party on the right”

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

11 posted on 08/15/2017 8:02:41 AM PDT by dfwgator
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That was only after they ceased to be chummy. Prior to that, the USSR saw Fascism is the bridge from late-stage capitalism to “pure” socialism.


12 posted on 08/15/2017 8:03:34 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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> It was Stalin who called the Nazis “Right Wing”. <

It’s interesting to note that the Soviets (and other Communists) always referred to the Hitler’s followers not as Nazis but as “fascists”.

Nazi = National Socialist, and the Commies did not want to remind anyone of that.


13 posted on 08/15/2017 8:04:33 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: TigerClaws

Leftists are on the same side as Nazis and Terrorists in their hatred of Israelis.
There is no ‘far right’.. They are all Left!


14 posted on 08/15/2017 8:07:45 AM PDT by DivineMomentsOfTruth
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To: bryan999

Only real difference between NAZIs and Communists were one had a nationalistic POV and the other was Global.


15 posted on 08/15/2017 8:09:05 AM PDT by rb22982
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Because nothing screams "Far Right" like Socialism!
16 posted on 08/15/2017 8:11:33 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (TETELESTI Read em and weep Lucy! Yer times almost up.)
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To: Leaning Right

Yes. That is true, but the Soviets regarded the fascists as allies in the cause of “Social Progress”...right up to the time that the fascists betrayed the Soviets.


17 posted on 08/15/2017 8:12:58 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: rb22982

Good point. Nationalism and a racial identity with absolute state control = National Socialism.

Global socialism and all races = International Socialism.


18 posted on 08/15/2017 8:13:10 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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But socialism is not visible in any of the material a progressive person sees about NAZIsm.


19 posted on 08/15/2017 8:14:25 AM PDT by arthurus
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To: TigerClaws
Hitler's real argument with 'Bolshevism" was the identity of the Bolsheviks. They were not Hitler and his friends. They were Lenin and his friends. In the universe of totalitarian parties the only real ideological difference is Lenin's Who, Whom?.
20 posted on 08/15/2017 8:17:02 AM PDT by arthurus
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