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"...associated with the 20th-century German Nazi Party, Nazi Germany, and other far-right groups."

So at what point do conservatives start demanding that liberals stop calling "Nazisim" a "far right" ideology? After all, it refers to "National Socialism" and the last I checked, "socialism" is LEFT.

The so-called "right" demands more individual freedom and more liberty and more private property, not less. Conservatives are NOT collectivists in any way shape, or form, always and forever.

But back to this wikipedia page... Liberals always want us to curb our language... so when can we start curbing theirs?

Just askin ....

1 posted on 08/15/2017 7:52:23 AM PDT by bryan999
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To: bryan999

“Far right” was a trick google did a couple years back.

Communists and Nazis want MORE government control.

Conservatives (traditionally called ‘liberals’ ironically enough) want LESS government control.

Hitler viewed himself and his part as Socialist (hence the name). He was, however, adamantly opposed to Bolshevism which he felt was a Jewish conspiracy.


2 posted on 08/15/2017 7:54:44 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: bryan999
Conservatives are NOT collectivists

Collectivism is the key word. The Bolsheviks, the German Nazis and the Italian Fascists were all collectivists and they all came directly out of the tradition of socialism.

American Conservatives support the US Constitution and our tradition of individual worth and personal responsibility in a society with LIMITED government.

We are not them.

Of course, to control the vocabulary, you need to control the media and the schools.

3 posted on 08/15/2017 7:56:48 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Islam: You have to just love a "religion" based on rape and sex slavery.)
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And this is why open-sourced references are worthless and never allowed in real discussion or papers....


4 posted on 08/15/2017 7:57:40 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of and they are allowed to vote!War")
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It was Stalin who called the Nazis “Right Wing”. The Communist front groups in the West repeated the new Stalin-approved definition.
One can be to the right of Stalin and still be FAR to the left.


5 posted on 08/15/2017 7:57:55 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Not while they own the media.


6 posted on 08/15/2017 7:58:56 AM PDT by Pecos (A Constitutional republic shouldnÂ’t need to hold its collective breath in fear of lawyers.)
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To: bryan999
so when can we start curbing theirs?

When Conservatives gain control of the MSM.

Next question?

7 posted on 08/15/2017 7:59:24 AM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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“The party on the left is now the party on the right”

Fact is, right in one country may be left in another. They are just labels.

It’s looking like the leader of the white supremist group in Charlotte is a known left winger in the US who was a participant in Occupy Wall street and an Obama supporter - and pretty much agreed with everything on the left’s opinion list.


8 posted on 08/15/2017 7:59:47 AM PDT by robroys woman
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> it refers to “National Socialism” and the last I checked, “socialism” is LEFT <

The Left believes in a strong central government, with many rules and regulations. The individual serves the society.
The Right believes in a weak central government, with few rules and regulations. Personal freedoms are cherished.

So which view is more National Socialist?


9 posted on 08/15/2017 8:00:58 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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Only real difference between NAZIs and Communists were one had a nationalistic POV and the other was Global.


15 posted on 08/15/2017 8:09:05 AM PDT by rb22982
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Because nothing screams "Far Right" like Socialism!
16 posted on 08/15/2017 8:11:33 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (TETELESTI Read em and weep Lucy! Yer times almost up.)
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But socialism is not visible in any of the material a progressive person sees about NAZIsm.


19 posted on 08/15/2017 8:14:25 AM PDT by arthurus
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Any party calling themselves ‘Socialists’ are far left of me and most people I care about.


21 posted on 08/15/2017 8:17:59 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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The so-called "right" demands more individual freedom and more liberty and more private property, not less. Conservatives are NOT collectivists in any way shape, or form, always and forever.

The terms "Left" and "Right" have their origins in the French Revolution. The Monarchists sat on the right of the assembly, the Republicans (anti-monarchists) on the Left.

The definitions of "Left" and "Right" are not based on collectivism vs. individualism or liberty vs. tyranny. The Right supports traditional social institutions, the Left seeks to overthrow them. If you adopt this (original and correct) definition of Left and Right, then you realize that you can have totalitarian/authoritarian movements on both the Left and the Right just as you can have both Left and Rightwing anarchist/libertarian movements.

23 posted on 08/15/2017 9:28:04 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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So at what point do conservatives start demanding that liberals stop calling "Nazisim" a "far right" ideology?

Possibly when the Nazis stop considering themselves right wing?

24 posted on 08/15/2017 9:34:32 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.

Wiki is fast and easy. Just like google.

Please dont use the encyclopedia that literally anyone can edit as fact. Remember how neat it felt to find the teachers answer sheet? Remember how F-ed up it was to find out it was a plant and you had been suckered?

..And Google? Thats just giving everything out right to the enemy. You could use it against them but any legitimate use is only telegraphing your intentions to the enemy.

Tin foil strapped down securely!

25 posted on 08/15/2017 9:41:54 AM PDT by Delta 21
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