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The Latest: House OKs $1.6B down payment for Trump's wall
News 12 Hudson Valley ^ | July 27, 2017 | The Associated Press

Posted on 07/27/2017 1:07:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Latest on the House's $788 billion spending measure (all times local):

2:30 p.m.

The Republican-led House has voted to make a $1.6 billion down payment for President Donald Trump's long-promised wall along the U.S.-Mexico border.

The vote was 230-196. Republican leaders avoided voting directly on the divisive issue Thursday. Instead, they tucked the wall provision into a broader procedural vote.....

(Excerpt) Read more at hudsonvalley.news12.com ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: borders; congress; immigration; trump
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1 posted on 07/27/2017 1:07:50 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Good. It’s about time.


2 posted on 07/27/2017 1:08:44 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Build the wall. It was supposed to be built after 9-11. You can't make a problem go away without doing something offensive.

Can't imagine all the money we have already saved just by the lessening of border jumpers...by something like 40%.

3 posted on 07/27/2017 1:10:49 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Not enough, though. The demons among them are still coming, I am sure.


4 posted on 07/27/2017 1:12:42 PM PDT by alstewartfan (We have no money but we stay afloat. The Jellyfishes don't scare us. Al Stewart from Red Toupee)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

While the media plays up the Trump Sessions feud things seem to be moving.


5 posted on 07/27/2017 1:13:43 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
the divisive issue

no bias there ...

6 posted on 07/27/2017 1:15:12 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just don’t make a Deeping Wall. That was bad...


7 posted on 07/27/2017 1:15:32 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (In Safe Space, no one can hear you weep....No one cares either.)
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To: Molon Labbie

A Deeping Wall?
I’ll have to look that one up.


8 posted on 07/27/2017 1:20:42 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Heck if threat of enforcing our immigration laws have caused the border crossing rate to drop 70%, then it will be interesting to see what an actual wall will do.

I bet that you could build a 10 foot >wide< wall would knock it down another 20%. Just the fear of enforcement is enough.


9 posted on 07/27/2017 1:21:09 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And now, onto the likes of McCain, Grahamnesty, Murkowski, Collins.


10 posted on 07/27/2017 1:21:14 PM PDT by daler
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To: NorthMountain

Apparently, expecting people to follow the law is divisive.


11 posted on 07/27/2017 1:23:04 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: lee martell

Sorry, LOTR reference.


12 posted on 07/27/2017 1:24:27 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (In Safe Space, no one can hear you weep....No one cares either.)
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To: dhs12345

Arresting them and punishing them when they flout the law is also apparently “divisive’. It certainly seems to divide patriots from traitors.


13 posted on 07/27/2017 1:25:24 PM PDT by NorthMountain (The Democrats ... have lost their grip on reality -DJT)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Funny thing, the Democrats voted FOR building a wall, after 9-11, but then refused to put funding in to actually BUILD the wall! Now the wall is an evil thing that shouldn’t be built - political birdie?!?

You know, this reminds me of something that recently happened in the Senate..oh, what was it, oh yeah...just of like the Republicans who voted to REPEAL Obamacare, when they knew Obama would veto them - political birdie?!?

In other words, it’s all lip-service, all the time, because By God we need to win elections to make changes - that we don’t actually intend to make!!

I would laugh, but I’m too pissed about this complete lack of gonads, backbones and honor on the part of almost ever damn politician!!


14 posted on 07/27/2017 1:32:22 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (Helping Make American Great Again, by ignoring Liberals!)
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To: NorthMountain

Worst of all, both Republicans and Democrats have allowed it to happen and maybe even encouraged it.


15 posted on 07/27/2017 1:36:51 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

More winning!


17 posted on 07/27/2017 1:54:04 PM PDT by Martin Tell (Honey Badger Don't Care.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Where there is a will there is a way.

President Trump has tools outside direct funding for the border wall. He can declare an emergency on the US-Mexican border, call up the National Guard, direct them to shoot anyone crossing the border while at the same time constructing a fence to prevent invasion. NO FUNDING NEEDED. Law enforcement and arrests would still be conducted by ICE.

Lastly,, in certain cases the National Guard may be also activated and federalized by Title 10 authority. Article I, section 8 of the U.S. Constitution allows the federal government to call the Guard into federal service in order to execute the laws of the Union, to suppress insurrection, and to repel invasion. Under U.S. Code, Title 10, section 12304, the president can call up to 200,000 reserve troops, including the National Guard, into federal service in order to “augment active forces for any operational mission.” While federalized, the combatant commanders of their respective theatres – and ultimately the president – control the National Guard units. Serving under the president in a federal status, these forces may perform domestic or expeditionary missions. However, even when not federalized the National Guard still has a federal mission to maintain properly trained and equipped units, available for prompt mobilization.

Title 10 & Posse Comitatus In a purely federal status under Title 10, National Guard members are stripped from their domestic policing powers and are subject to the Posse Comitatus Act, which was passed during the Reconstruction Era to prevent the Army from engaging in civil law enforcement activities. Specifically, its intent was to end the use of the Army to police elections in former Confederate states. One of the few exceptions to the restrictions of the Posse Comitatus Act is the invocation of the rarely used Insurrection Act of 1807, which empowers the president to suspend Posse Comitatus and employ federal forces, including the National Guard, within the United States to “suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy.”

Source https://www.domesticpreparedness.com/preparedness/the-history-reality-of-the-national-guard/

18 posted on 07/27/2017 2:07:24 PM PDT by WMarshal (President Trump, a president keeping his promises to the American people. It feels like winning.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Since the wall funding was originally appropriated in 2005 it’s ABOUT DAMN TIME.


19 posted on 07/27/2017 2:09:22 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: muleskinner

The senate will find a way to lose. I am sick of all 100 of them.


20 posted on 07/27/2017 2:24:21 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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