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The Myth of Drug Expiration Dates
ProPublica ^ | July 18, 2017 | Marshall Allen

Posted on 07/20/2017 7:35:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The box of prescription drugs had been forgotten in a back closet of a retail pharmacy for so long that some of the pills predated the 1969 moon landing. Most were 30 to 40 years past their expiration dates — possibly toxic, probably worthless.

But to Lee Cantrell, who helps run the California Poison Control System, the cache was an opportunity to answer an enduring question about the actual shelf life of drugs: Could these drugs from the bell-bottom era still be potent?

Cantrell called Roy Gerona, a University of California, San Francisco, researcher who specializes in analyzing chemicals. Gerona had grown up in the Philippines and had seen people recover from sickness by taking expired drugs with no apparent ill effects.

“This was very cool,” Gerona says. “Who gets the chance of analyzing drugs that have been in storage for more than 30 years?”

The age of the drugs might have been bizarre, but the question the researchers wanted to answer wasn’t. Pharmacies across the country — in major medical centers and in neighborhood strip malls — routinely toss out tons of scarce and potentially valuable prescription drugs when they hit their expiration dates.

Gerona and Cantrell, a pharmacist and toxicologist, knew that the term “expiration date” was a misnomer. The dates on drug labels are simply the point up to which the Food and Drug Administration and pharmaceutical companies guarantee their effectiveness, typically at two or three years. But the dates don’t necessarily mean they’re ineffective immediately after they “expire” — just that there’s no incentive for drugmakers to study whether they could still be usable.

ProPublica has been researching why the U.S. health care system is the most expensive in the world. One answer, broadly, is waste....

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Health/Medicine; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: drugexpiration; drugs; expirationdates; medicine
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1 posted on 07/20/2017 7:35:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The only ones you really have to worry about are certain anti-biotics which turn toxic after a certain amount of time has passed.


2 posted on 07/20/2017 7:39:01 PM PDT by GraceG ("It's better to have all the Right Enemies, than it is to have all the Wrong Friends.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Expiration dates on tinctures.
Expiration dates on dry goods.
Expiration dates on solid vitamins.

ALL lies.

Keep these things cool, dry and sealed against any air infiltration, and they can last indefinitely.

My GF is so brainwashed into thinking that expiration dates are valid, she tosses out dairy goods the day BEFORE. She was mortified to learn that I use cream that is as much as a week beyond the “due date”. If it’s kept well-chilled and never left out, it’s fine.


3 posted on 07/20/2017 7:41:54 PM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: GraceG
Expired insulin is bad news.
4 posted on 07/20/2017 7:43:28 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The bottom line: an administrative agency pontificating and issuing gratuitous laws that only waste money and insure their continued existence to make more gratuitous laws.
5 posted on 07/20/2017 7:44:27 PM PDT by Fungi (Mucor roxii is not a rock band.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Interesting read. I’ve always wondered about the dates on over the counter stuff. I’ve taken plenty that are several years out of date and they seem effective and never caused any kind of issue.

Would make a lot of sense to evaluate EVERY new drug to see what it’s efficacy is/was. Say to the point it reaches 90% and or becomes a threat due to rot or decay.


6 posted on 07/20/2017 7:50:51 PM PDT by John Milner (Marching for Peace is like breathing for food.)
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To: Don W

I’ve always figured as much. It’s not like the pills are going to turn into non-aspirin!


7 posted on 07/20/2017 7:50:58 PM PDT by bigbob (People say believe half of what you see son and none of what you hear - M. Gaye)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder about Epipen. These are only “valid” for a year and are hellishly expensive. It would be nice if they didn’t have to be replaced annually.


8 posted on 07/20/2017 7:51:37 PM PDT by Diapason
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When I was a kid in high school, I got one of those little cartons of milk at lunch. Started chugging, but milk is not supposed to be lumpy like cottage cheese.

Good drugs are like fine wine - enjoy them whenever you can. Who wants to eat old antibiotics anyway? :)


9 posted on 07/20/2017 7:53:04 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: Don W

My wife does the same thing. It makes me rage with frustration.

She also takes pans with minor amount of food in them out to the yard to dump them. It attracts critters. I ask her, what do you think goes down the toilet?


10 posted on 07/20/2017 7:55:24 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Diapason
They are actually good until the liquid inside begins to change color or consistency.

But you want to keep a close eye on them. And I don't know if you can even see the liquid anymore.

11 posted on 07/20/2017 7:56:34 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: bigbob

If you have a decent sense of smell, it is easy to tell when aspirin has gone bad. If you open the bottle and it smells like vinegar, toss it. If it doesn’t it is (legal disclaimer) likely still good.


12 posted on 07/20/2017 7:56:50 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Don W

“She was mortified to learn that I use cream that is as much as a week beyond the “due date”. If it’s kept well-chilled and never left out, it’s fine.”

My kind of man.

Before I got married, if lunchmeat felt slimy, I’d rinse it off...


13 posted on 07/20/2017 7:56:59 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pharmaceutical companies get sued for everything under the sun. Who is going to be first to blame them for trying to limit their liability just a bit.


14 posted on 07/20/2017 7:57:51 PM PDT by Rembrandt
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To: bigbob
Oddly enough aspirin will go bad.

If you open the bottle and smell ammonia do not take it. In fact that is a good rule of thumb for anything. Except, of course, ammonia and products that are suppose to contain ammonia.

15 posted on 07/20/2017 7:59:55 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

There’s no need to rinse slick meat unless it’s starting to grow mold. LOL


16 posted on 07/20/2017 8:00:11 PM PDT by Augie
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To: John Milner
The only way you can do that is with time.

How long do you want them to leave the new drug on the shelf?

17 posted on 07/20/2017 8:01:54 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The root cause of most evils, waste, and destruction: trial lawyers.


18 posted on 07/20/2017 8:03:52 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (https://youtu.be/IYUYya6bPGw)
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To: Don W
"My GF is so brainwashed into thinking that expiration dates are valid, she tosses out dairy goods the day BEFORE. She was mortified to learn that I use cream that is as much as a week beyond the “due date”. If it’s kept well-chilled and never left out, it’s fine."

Brainwashing being the popular fad that it is, this might do no good.

But you could attempt to explain that the date on dairy and other "fresh" foods in grocery stores is not a "spoils by" date.

It is rather the last date on which the store will sell the product, expecting a reasonable transit and storage time to the customer's home and them a period of storage during which it is consumed.

Typically, dairy and juice products can easily be stored with safety and consumed for anywhere from two weeks to a month after the "sell by" purchase date, provided they are kept with reasonable care and refrigerated.

19 posted on 07/20/2017 8:04:58 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

“Before I got married, if lunchmeat felt slimy, I’d rinse it off...”

I still wash mold off of blocks of cheese and eat it. Drives my wife and son nuts. I’m still here.


20 posted on 07/20/2017 8:07:47 PM PDT by 43north (Inside every leftist is a totalitarian fascist thug waiting to get out.)
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