Posted on 05/09/2017 10:14:13 AM PDT by Sean_Anthony
Part 2: Health is a basic American right, makes for nice rhetoric but lousy policy.
In the first post in this series I took Ben Stein to task for suggesting on Your World with Neil Cavuto that single-payer health care protects people with preexisting conditions.
During his appearance, Stein also let this gem drop:
It is a basic American right to have decent health care. That is a basic right. We live in a very rich country
and the idea that any parent who sees his child born with a serious defect will think, My God, I might not be able to afford to keep my child alive is abhorrent to everything it means to be an American.
Actually, you don’t have a right to anything. What you have a right to is to do things and pursue things. You are fee to PURSUE happiness. You have no “right” to it.
Same with health, health care, classic Harleys with loads of chrome and Meth.
However, if you both pursue and acquire the latter, you may end up in jail.
Feeeeelings
Nothing more than Feelings
Trying to justify
The government takeover of healthcaaaaaare
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Wo-Wo-Wo-Wo-WO FEEELINGS
Trying to forget my
Feelings of personal and individual rather than collectivized responsibiliteeeeeeeee
Ben Stein supports Franken...enough said....don’t bother to Stein’s opinions...
It is a basic American right to have decent health care. That is a basic right. We live in a very rich country and the idea that any parent who sees his child born with a serious defect will think, My God, I might not be able to afford to keep my child alive is abhorrent to everything it means to be an American.
That’s why American doctors, nurses, medical administrators and technicians, and drug and equipment providers happily provide their services for free under such circumstances.
What? They don’t? Abhorrent.
Definitely a growing # of people believe that.
Stein has been a lib for decades, I don't know why he is a regular on Cavuto’s show.
I notice he doesn't say 'American citizen' or 'legal American'
But seriously — are there people arguing that a child born in this country should be denied life-saving medical treatment based on the ability to pay?
i mean, in a country where we apparently have to provide internet access and cell phones to everybody, is there still an argument over whether a person who can be reasonably saved should be allowed to die because their parents didn’t have enough money?
(Note that for much of modern history, anybody could take their child to a hospital and get this life-saving treatment, sure it wasn’t a “guarantee”, and you had to accept that you were a freeloader and getting help, but you got it.)
Actually the irony of all of this is that if you show up at a hospital in labor with no insurance, they will deliver the baby, and if there’s any problem, such as a heart defect they will spare no expense to save that baby’s life even with no possibility of repayment. That’s what currently happens, and has happened for decades.
In fact the worst thing that could happen would be to have a crappy Obamacare plan and HAVE to go to a crappy third tier hospital where you’re covered but are operated on by the dregs of doctorhood.
There is no such thing as free health care.
If you get something for free, it’s because somebody else paid for it.
My Son had lung cancer. My insurance did a great job of covering the expenses.
I ate a shit-sandwich every day served by my bosses so I could have that kind of health insurance.
I expect other people to sacrifice and have a similar diet if they want good health insurance.
And here is my advice to my Son:
Live a healthy lifestyle to try and keep it from coming back and also work hard and prepare yourself for the kind of job that will provide you with the means to take care of yourself.
He’s doing that.
Health is, and always has been, a basic responsibility of each and every individual, not of the society as a whole.
There are times when the greater society must get involved in health problems, as in times of epidemics, or widespread calamity, but most other times, you are about as well or sickly as you want to be. The rules for staying well are available at every hand, and most degenerative or wasting diseases can be avoided by conscientious and disciplined application of good habits. Death and injury by accidental causes may be constrained by simple good sense and something as obvious as extending courtesy in situations where it may apply.
Some 95% of human woe is self-induced, and it is only rarely if ever the failure of the greater society should come into play. For this, there are means of recourse to at least somewhat ameliorate the worst effects, and if insurance is the means by which this recourse is pursued, it still falls on the individual to do the responsible thing. There is no “right” to have health expenses paid for by anyone else.
On judgment day when standing before the Lord people will realize what rights they really had.
If someone has a ‘right’ to our money to get him health care, then we have a right to tell him what he can do - like not smoke or drink.
I mean, we don’t want him racking-up more bills for us to pay, do we? Only liberals that agree to that are allowed to demand free health care.
Americans pre-Medicare days were tough. It was considered shameful to ask for a handout, so when done, the asker was humble taking help.
That’s how it was. Nobody whose child was born with defects expected anyone to offer to pay for treatment. Children died. Parents grieved. They were comforted. Life went on.
Can anyone alive remember this fact?
If it be a “basic right” why are we as a society so intent on destroying the system that has given the the entire population access to the best medicine in history? Why are we cutting off classes of people- for instance, those deemed to be no longer valuable to the economy, from life saving medical treatment? Why are we instituting a system that that must decline in quality as the most intelligent young people no longer go into the field? Why are we forcing a system that must drastically reduce or end medical research and forces longer and longer and sometimes lethal waits for treatment, or even to see a doctor?
What happened to Ben Stein- he used to have his head on straight.
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