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Fourth Circuit: Carrying A Gun Makes You A Suspect
americas1stfreedom.org ^ | Feb. 7, 2017 | AWR Hawkins

Posted on 02/07/2017 12:36:12 PM PST by PROCON

A ruling by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit finds that carrying a gun—even lawfully—is justification for police to treat you as suspect until evidence proves otherwise. This turns the normal approach to policing on its head, limiting Fourth Amendment protections normally in place for those considered innocent until proven guilty.

In fact, Ammoland reported that Judge James A. Wynn opined, “Individuals who carry firearms—lawfully or unlawfully—pose a categorical risk of danger to others and police officers, in particular.” Wynn added, “Individuals who choose to carry firearms [therefore] forego certain constitutional protections afforded to individuals who elect not to carry firearms.”

The 4th Circuit ruling was issued in United States v. Robinson, a case brought by Shaquille Montel Robinson after he believed himself unconstitutionally targeted for search and seizure—and ultimately arrested—because he was carrying a gun.

Robinson’s saga began on March 24, 2014, when an unidentified caller notified the Ranson, W.V., Police Department that they had seen “an African-American male” load a handgun, conceal it in his pocket and climb into the passenger side of a Toyota Camry “driven by a white female.”

Officer Kendall Hudson spotted the car minutes after the call was placed, and pulled the vehicle over after noting that Robinson and the driver were not wearing seat belts.

According to court documents:

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; 4thcircuitcourt; banglist; gungrabbers; judicialactivism; police; policestate
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All of these anti-2nd Amendment rulings will eventually be heard by SCOTUS.

A Hillary Clinton appointed court would have further impacted the 2nd Amendment. What a bullet we dodged in November!

We need the Senate to get Judge Gorsuch confirmed soon and hope for a few more SCOTUS retirements.

1 posted on 02/07/2017 12:36:12 PM PST by PROCON
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2 posted on 02/07/2017 12:36:51 PM PST by PROCON (Defending the Border isn't a Political Option, it's a Constitutional Obligation ~ Rick Perry)
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To: PROCON

That’s like saying talking makes you a suspect in a riot until proven otherwise!


3 posted on 02/07/2017 12:38:37 PM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Make America Great Again !)
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To: PROCON

does having a vagina make someone a prostitute ?


4 posted on 02/07/2017 12:38:40 PM PST by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: PROCON

An unconstitutional ruling that should be nullified by the states and considered void.


5 posted on 02/07/2017 12:39:18 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: PROCON

So Judge, just how many Concealed Carry Pistol License holders a year commit violent gun crimes compared to criminals? In my state we call them “good guy cards” as they certify to all that you and your criminal/mental record have been evaluated and you are NOT A THREAT!


6 posted on 02/07/2017 12:39:33 PM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Kid Shelleen

does having a vagina make someone a prostitute ?
= = =

In this era of trannys, you will hope so.


7 posted on 02/07/2017 12:40:33 PM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: Kid Shelleen

No, but according to the “women’s movement”, if you have a dick you’re a suspect.


8 posted on 02/07/2017 12:41:35 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: PROCON

Judge James A. Wynn opined, “Individuals who carry firearms—lawfully or unlawfully—pose a categorical risk of danger to others and police officers, in particular.” Wynn added, “Individuals who choose to carry firearms [therefore] forego certain constitutional protections afforded to individuals who elect not to carry firearms.”


He made that opinion up out of whole cloth. There is NOTHING in the constitution to support that statement.

How about king-fu experts? How about a chainsaw? A mad ferret?

They’ll let anyone wear a black robe these days.


9 posted on 02/07/2017 12:41:48 PM PST by Mr. Douglas (Best. Election. EVER!)
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This is crazy.

If anything it would be the observed weirdness of the people stopped. Then you see they have a gun on top of that and it puts anyones radar up.

But this zerothink everyone isma suspect if they have a gun,,is nuts. Context. Context and observed behavior.


10 posted on 02/07/2017 12:41:52 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Sounds like LEOs are now Terrorists.


11 posted on 02/07/2017 12:43:43 PM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: PROCON

Suspected of what?...................


12 posted on 02/07/2017 12:44:54 PM PST by Red Badger (If "Majority Rule" was so important in South Africa, why isn't it that way here?.......)
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To: PROCON

So, according to the activist maggots on the 4th Circus, you’re GUILTY until proven innocent. Not your father’s or Founding Father justice system.


13 posted on 02/07/2017 12:45:35 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (As long as tyranny exists, the Constitution and Bill of Right will never be "outdated" or "obsolete")
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To: Mr. Douglas

Wynn added, “Individuals who choose to carry firearms [therefore] forego certain constitutional protections
= = =

BAckwards.

Those carrying firearms enjoy and enforce their constitutional protections.


14 posted on 02/07/2017 12:46:40 PM PST by Scrambler Bob
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To: PROCON

Armed felons- bad. This has nothing to do with legal carry.


15 posted on 02/07/2017 12:48:04 PM PST by arrogantsob (Check out "CHAOS AND MAYHEM" at Amazon.com.)
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To: Kid Shelleen

16 posted on 02/07/2017 12:48:46 PM PST by PROCON (Defending the Border isn't a Political Option, it's a Constitutional Obligation ~ Rick Perry)
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Judge James A. Wynn opined, "Individuals who carry firearms—lawfully or unlawfully—pose a categorical risk of danger to others

Yes. That's true. Even if they're wearing a funny blue suit with a badge on the shirt. Those guys are posing a categorical risk of danger to everyone around them ... even in the donut shop. So I'm justified in treating them like anyone else who is armed and posing to me a categorical danger of death or grave bodily harm.

Right?

How 'bout that, "Judge"?

17 posted on 02/07/2017 12:48:58 PM PST by NorthMountain (AP is fake news)
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To: Scrambler Bob
Sounds like LEOs are now Terrorists.

Yep. That's exactly the correct interpretation of this "ruling".

18 posted on 02/07/2017 12:50:23 PM PST by NorthMountain (AP is fake news)
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To: Kid Shelleen
does having a vagina make someone a prostitute?

The modern feminist movement says yes, unless proven to be a lesbian.

19 posted on 02/07/2017 12:52:24 PM PST by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
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To: Robert357

Many judges have a gun under their robes.


20 posted on 02/07/2017 12:52:34 PM PST by alpo (Resist we did.)
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