Safe Streets Ahead? Stop & Frisk Law, NY

CITY JOURNAL MAGAZINE ^ | 2013 | HEATHER MAC DONALD

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Safe Streets Ahead? Judicial rulings and anti-cop activists threaten the city’s triumph over crime. Heather Mac Donald Special Issue 2013 Public safety New York

As the 1990s came to a close, the criminology profession declared that New York’s recent crime free fall was over. Homicides had declined a remarkable 72 percent over the previous decade, but that trend couldn’t possibly continue, the academy opined. “It is probable that another crime wave will engulf the City in the near future,” warned Andrew Karmen, a sociologist at John Jay College of Criminal Justice, in 2000.

Karmen and his colleagues were right about the end of the crime drop; they just had the wrong city. The national crime decline, which had been only half as steep as New York’s, did stall in the 2000s, and in many places—such as Boston, once seen as a crime-fighting rival to New York—lawlessness shot back up. Only in the Big Apple did crime keep falling: from 2001 to 2012, murders went down an additional 36 percent and major felonies another 31 percent. Even the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression couldn’t reverse the city’s crime drop, as the criminology professoriate had predicted it would.

New York’s triumph over crime triggered the city’s rebirth in the 1990s, with the most powerful benefits flowing to low-income neighborhoods newly liberated from fear. Maintaining the public’s sense of security is the absolute precondition for future economic vitality. You’d think, therefore, that the next mayor would ponder long and hard before doing anything that might jeopardize this supreme accomplishment. Yet the Democratic mayoral candidates have been competing to out-demagogue one another regarding the New York Police Department, accusing it of racism and calling for fundamental change in how it responds to crime.

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Heather Mac Donald wrote about how effective Stop and Frisk was to lower crime in NY, prior to the election of the present Socialist Mayor DeBlasio, who as Trump said, refused to appeal the lawsuit from the street thugs.

De Blasio Drops Appeal Of 'Stop And Frisk' 3:36

NPR Transcript

January 30, 2014 Heard on All Things Considered

Joel Rose

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio moved toward fulfilling a major campaign promise on Thursday: he announced the city will settle a long-running lawsuit against the police department's stop-and-frisk policy. A federal judge last year found that the NYPD violated the civil rights of blacks and Latinos with its aggressive tactics. Former Mayor Michael Bloomberg's administration appealed the ruling, but de Blasio won a landslide electoral victory in 2013 partly by promising to reform the stop-and-frisk policy. Now, some New Yorkers are worried about a possible rise in crime.

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“The NYPD’s support for such proactive policing, along with its sophisticated crime-data analysis and passion for accountability, is responsible for New York’s unparalleled safety today. Indeed, suspects have told police that they’re leaving their guns at home for fear of being stopped. The rate at which New York City teens carried guns in 2011 was at its lowest point ever and far lower than in any other major American city, according to the Centers for Disease Control—a finding that helps explain why the homicide rate for Chicago teens, for instance, is four times that of New York teens.”

Heather Mac Donald 2013

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This information is NOT liked to Lester Holt’s fact checking computer....           /sarc

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Opinion
editorial

FBI stats back up Trump’s warning on crime

By Post Editorial Board

September 26, 2016 | 8:04pm

The FBI confirmed Monday that Donald Trump’s right: America’s murder rate is spiking. New data show homicides rose 11 percent in 2015, with overall violent crime up 4 percent.

Trump rightly warned that this is a particular crisis for poor minorities, since the rise is mainly an urban one: “Homicides last year increased by 17 percent in America’s 50 largest cities,” he said. “That’s the largest increase in 25 years.”

Critics huffed — but the fact-checkers had to concede he’s right. The Washington Post confirmed Trump’s figure in July. The New York Times this month said murders soared 14 percent in the 100 biggest cities, with half the jump coming from just seven: Baltimore, Chicago, Cleveland, Houston, Milwaukee, Nashville and Washington.

New York City actually was part of the grim 2015 trend, with homicides up 6 percent. But the NYPD took aggressive steps to adjust, and 2016’s numbers are looking much better.

Chicago and too many other cities aren’t so fortunate.

The grim news also vindicates the Manhattan Institute’s Heather Mac Donald, who’s long warned of the “Ferguson Effect”: less-aggressive policing in the wake of anti-cop protests and rioting.

http://nypost.com/2016/09/26/fbi-stats-back-up-trumps-warning-on-crime/

[Paladin2]

S&F is the only effective way to help plug the Gun Burglary Loophole that I’m aware of.

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If Clinton could at least try to be colorblind or take a break from pandering...

When a city like Chicago has a murder rate on par with casualties in a battlefield, I’d say it’s time to try a proven tactic. I see nothing racist in stop and frisk.

[Oldexpat]

S & F is designed to protect minorities where they live. Street safety is essential to development of neighborhoods. The objective of S&F is not arresting minorities but preventing them from carrying weapons.

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CHICAGO

Year to Date 2016

Shot & Killed: 502
Shot & Wounded: 2726
Total Shot: 3228
Total Homicides: 559

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The streets are being taken over now that the police are no longer doing proactive policing.

Once Hillary is elected, she and her new Supreme Court will take on the Second Amendment and there will be chaos and Martial Law for citizens.

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She totally pandered to the black vote on this stop and frisk issue. The results in NYC are indisputable, there are a lot of moms with sons and daughter who are still alive thanks to that law. When they were debating on stopping it I remember seeing black moms in the street saying "We need this law" and they were scared of losing it.

Hillary and her kind are responsible for murder, in fact, they use it to leverage more power. The more chaos, mayhem and murder in the inner cities the more they will vote democratic, why? It's beyond me but that's the way it works.

Trump, on the other hand, and I think it's safe to say most of us here care about the black community, they are God's creation just as we are, no child wants to grow up in that kind of hell, just think how we most of the inner city kids would grow up and prosper had not the evil of the democratic party so enslaved them. Yes, make the stop and frisk law illegal because it profiles black. This used to be called good police work, not so much in profiling blacks but going to where the crime is. The democrats repealed that law knowing full well 1,000's would die so they could keep their stranglehold on the black community. I pray they wake up for themselves and for us because we "are stronger together" but not like Hillary means it.

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Murder up 6% in 2015

De Blasio was sworn into office on January 1, 2014

Murder, rape, felony assault, robbery, grand larceny went up in 2015. Burglary and grand larceny motor vehicle went down in 2015. Because of the decrease in these two non-violent crimes, primarily burglary, the overall number of these seven felonies decreased. Violent crime increased about 1.5% with murder up 6%.

	2014		2015
murder and non-neg. manslaughter	333		352
rape	1352		1438
felony assault	20207		20270
robbery	16539		16931

source: http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/seven_major_felony_offenses_2000_2015.pdf

We'll see what 2016 brings.