Posted on 09/02/2016 5:37:37 AM PDT by impimp
First Trump had a great speech on immigration with his 10 point plan. It does look like he is going soft on deporting everyone though. Hopefully not as immigration softening is not good.
But now the bad news...Trump still hasn't embraced the wisdom of free trade. Make no mistake about it - just as prochoice = baby killing, fair trade = economy crushing protectionism.
Has anybody seen any sign that Trump is coming over to the free trade globalist camp? My only hope is that he will "soften" his position on trade deals just as he seems to be softening a bit on immigration.
But now the bad news...Trump still hasn't embraced the wisdom of free trade. Make no mistake about it - just as prochoice = baby killing, fair trade = economy crushing protectionism.
Has anybody seen any sign that Trump is coming over to the free trade globalist camp? My only hope is that he will "soften" his position on trade deals just as he seems to be softening a bit on immigration.
You can take your propaganda on “Free Trade” and shove it! The United States does not need to sacrifice its SOVEREIGNTY in order to export its products to the world. Trump’s position is EXACTLY correct. We should negotiate all of our treaties and exchanges individually one on one as we have always done in the past. Turning over our sovereignty to a band of cutthroats has put us where we are, DEEP IN DEBT!
Trump sticking to America First is the BEST NEWS in YEARS!
Most of the countries that we “free trade” with, have a 15% vat on our goods that was carefully done so as not to be a tariff. That puts us at a disadvantage.
I believe his plan is to address that, possibly seeking an exemption of the vat for our goods. The other way is to offset them with like fees, but for WTO compliance, not tariffs.
There is no such thing as “Free Trade”.
Not very likely.
He mistakenly believes a 30% tariff will "protect American workers."
Well, if he really wants to protect American workers, why not 60%, or 100% or even 200%?
Raising a tariff against "unfair" imported goods doesn't create any more jobs than raising the minimum wage would, simply because higher prices--whether imposed on imports or as a result of restarting inefficient domestic production of a product--divert capital from investment into consumption.
It's a temporary fix (the seen) that deprives the nation of new industries and production (the unseen).
Bastiat had a catchy phrase to counter those of his countrymen who advocated protective tariffs:
If goods don't cross borders, armies will.
Put another way, protectionism is an attempt by governments to inflict on their own citizens in peacetime the same kinds of harm their enemies attempt to do (with naval blockades) during wars.
You obviously did not listen to Trump’s immigration speech by what you posted.
Anyhow, we do have true free trade between the States, but that is it.
The United States did not have NAFTA from 1787 to 1996. Yet we led the world in many things and led us to be a Super Power . So your rubbish about being “isolationists” ( a term which really applies to people that did not want to enter World War I and World War II) is complete malarkey.
Furthermore, it was for the most part tariffs that funded the Federal government to from 1787 until the income tax rolled around after 1913.
Our country cannot succeed with the current RIGGED TRADE DEALS where the U.S. pays tariffs to China and Mexico while they pay no tariffs to us. Moreover, the currency manipulation that China is allowed to do to protect their industry is stupid.
You have to ask yourself were we a stronger country from 1787 until 1996 without the rigged trading or since 1996 up to the present day?
The USA is stronger today than ever before. Are you joking?
You said”You have to ask yourself were we a stronger country from 1787 until 1996 without the rigged trading or since 1996 up to the present day?”
I too believe in bilateral trade deals and am not a big fan of agreements that involve many different countries.
That being said I think we should have an “unfair” trade agreement if that is all we can get. Unfair is better than nothing.
“He mistakenly believes a 30% tariff will “protect American workers.”
Someone forgot to tell Reagan that. Harley is still here because of a protective tariff at a rough time. Reagan also instituted a large tariff when Japan started dumping electronics here.
And somebody forgot to tell our founders who funded the government with tariffs our first 100 years until the progressives took root.
Modern “free traders” are not the conservatives they claim to be. Their loyalty is to the business world globally, not to a nation state called America.
To them America is only a means to an end.
“The USA is stronger today than ever before. Are you joking?”
You must be referring to our being the largest debtor nation on earth instead of being the biggest creditor nation of the 80s. Or maybe you mean the way were are at full employment. Or maybe you mean the highest percentage of foreign born ever, flooding in mexicans, moslems, Africans, and South Americans who despise at everything America was. Or maybe you mean the imploding military that is a shadow of the early 90s. Or maybe you mean NASA that can’t put a single astronaut up despite our hit movies pretending we can. or maybe you mean the way every nation and pirate who wants flips us the finger anytime they want. Or maybe you mean our smallest nuclear arsenal ever.
You claim we are stronger than ever...please prove it.
We are in a bubble and about to burst.
Let’s see though since NAFTA, GATT, etc...
We had the dot com crash in 2000, then we had the crash in 2008 and we are set up for another crash probably not too long after the election. The derivatives bubble is bigger now than it was in 2008.
Prior to that 1996 we had the crash in 1987 and 1929. Notice the bigger stretch in time between the crashes? But the creation of the Federal Reserve in 1913 was supposed to prevent all this??? We have had nothing but disaster with the Federal Reserve! It has destroyed the value of the U.S. dollar. Which today’s buying power from the dollar is worth about 2 cents to what it was in 1913. That’s a side issue.
Getting back to my main point we still led the world from 1787 to 1996. We led the world in many things and were even a Super Power from 1945 until about 1996 without the RIGGED TRADE DEALS. What do we lead the world in today?
If NAFTA, GATT, etc.. Are so great then how come we have nearly 100 million people out of the work force? How come we are over 19 trillion dollars in debt? The unemployment numbers are bull$hit because the Obama administration decided to use the U-4 report vs. the U-6 report which was used forever. Plus they tried to hide inflation by taking food prices. off of the inflation report.
Immediate deportation of criminals will begin to thin things out a bit. Then:
Implementation of E-Verify will keep most illegals from working. A few prosecutions of those caught hiring them will bring it to a halt. Millions will self-deport.
Then you have maybe a million or so left. A portion of those are Dreamers. If they are adults, born here from illegal parents, legalize them. The rest can be deported, legalized (been here forever, no record, business owners, etc.), or given. a work permit as legal aliens after a slap on the wrist.
Thats my take on how things might go. There could be another step where farm or seasonal workers pay a fine and get work permits.
Miltary strength over all other rivals.
military strength comes from economic strength. That was lesson number one from the Civil War forward. From WWI WWII and the cold war 80s.
Provide me an example of a broke debtor nation that retained huge military power for any length of time.
military strength comes from economic strength. That was lesson number one from the Civil War forward. From WWI WWII and the cold war 80s.
Provide me an example of a broke debtor nation that retained huge military power for any length of time.
Or to simplify it for your pea brain, say all of my neighbors have a 25 auto. but I have my AR, a rack of glocks and a shotgun.
Then say I have the deepest debt of all my neighbors, and I own money to many of them. I even owe serious money to some that dislike me.
To you this is strength? Go pimp for Hillary somewhere else.
National debt has nothing to do with trade. A trade deficit may be maintained indefinitely.
Oh but it does. National debt comes from spending on those who no longer have employment. The worker who used to have a job and pay taxes, now consumes taxes. And the taxes are not paid here. The factory is overseas, and now even corporate HQ is moving overseas. There are no tariffs.
So the money comes from somewhere and that is borrowing. Yes, national debt is deeply intertwined with trade deficits and moving entire industries offshore while still letting them sell here tax free.
If they aren’t paying taxes in America, American taxable incomes are down, and there are no tariffs allowed, and the financial sector freaks out at any financial services tax, where do you think the money comes from?
Its borrowed. And its hghly intertwined.
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