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The awkward Sunngard automatic pistol
AShooting Journal ^ | 8/9/2016 | J Hines

Posted on 08/09/2016 7:27:28 AM PDT by w1n1

Early in the 20th century one of the weakness observed by an inventor named Harald Sunngard in automatic pistols was that during reloads while under stress were often bungled by shooters. This would leave them vulnerable to return fire without being able to shoot back. This Norwegian inventor came up with a solution. There were two parts to this, the first was to use a big magazine, second was to store a spare magazine right in the well of the pistol for immediate use.

The grip of the pistol needed to be big enough to store two identical magazines. One in the front and one in the back inside the well. The front magazine sits higher than the rear one, the bolt face on the slide feeds rounds from the front magazine into the chamber. Once the magazine is empty, shooter ejects it and slide the rear magazine to the front position.

This pistol shoots a 6.5mm and the magazine holds 25, with two magazines the shooter has 50 rounds available. Sunngard hypothesize that while in a gun fight with the common handguns which was only 7 to 8 rounds. While the reload is where Sunngard auto pistol would come into play without a reload and win the gun fight. Read the rest of the story here.


TOPICS: History; Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: automaticpistol; banglist; pistol
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1 posted on 08/09/2016 7:27:28 AM PDT by w1n1
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To: w1n1

Looks more like a semi-auto.


2 posted on 08/09/2016 7:29:05 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: BenLurkin; w1n1

25 caliber?...............


3 posted on 08/09/2016 7:33:49 AM PDT by Red Badger (Make America AMERICA again!.........................)
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To: BenLurkin

Would the second magazine be spring loaded once the first magazine is ejected?


4 posted on 08/09/2016 7:35:54 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (Common Sense, Trump and Pence. More of the same, Clinton and Kaine.)
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To: w1n1

Hollyweird has had continuous firing no-reloading pistols for decades. Their standard six-shooter was good for twenty or thirty shots.


5 posted on 08/09/2016 7:37:16 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: EQAndyBuzz
"The front magazine sits higher than the rear one, the bolt face on the slide feeds rounds from the front magazine into the chamber. Once the magazine is empty, shooter ejects it and slide the rear magazine to the front position. "
6 posted on 08/09/2016 7:46:37 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: w1n1

Spud Gun


7 posted on 08/09/2016 7:46:46 AM PDT by Ancient Man
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To: BenLurkin

They thought otherwise.

https://www.google.com/search?q=colt+automatic+pistol+advertisement&biw=896&bih=427&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwio39-kmPjNAhWCyyYKHWdJBzgQ_AUIBigB

Perhaps we’ve corrupted the language.


8 posted on 08/09/2016 7:48:34 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Red Badger
Hit the right spot and a quarter inch wide bullet kills as dead as one that's .45 inch. A .25 Colt literally fits in the palm of your hand or in any pocket. This was my Dad's second favorite pistol, after his hammerless S&W .38. Both are antiques and if they weren't at the bottom of that fish pond I'd love to still have them.


9 posted on 08/09/2016 7:53:53 AM PDT by katana
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To: w1n1

Guns should be sexy.

This gun is not sexy.

Liberators are more sexy than this gun.


10 posted on 08/09/2016 7:54:32 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: katana

“...if they weren’t at the bottom of that fish pond...”

I hate it when that happens!


11 posted on 08/09/2016 7:56:50 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Apparently I'm still living in your head rent free. At least now it isn't empty.)
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To: w1n1
Only 30 rounds, but probably a lot more reliable and easier to reload.


12 posted on 08/09/2016 8:03:11 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: w1n1

First double stack?


13 posted on 08/09/2016 8:21:45 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: BenLurkin

Early self loading pistols were referred to as automatic pistols. The .45 ACP (Automatic Colt Pistol) round was designed for the M1911 Automatic Pistol.


14 posted on 08/09/2016 8:27:54 AM PDT by GMMC0987
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To: katana

A story from one of the gun rags years ago:
A lawman was enamored with a little .25 auto for some reason, so his loving wife sewed a small pouch for it into each pair of his duty pants. He dropped it in there and carried it until the fateful day.

A bad guy wrestling him for his duty weapon succeeded in getting it, so he went inside his waistband, pulled the .25, stuck it against the man’s chest, and fired! The muscular man looked down, touched the little red spot on his sternum and said, “What’s this?!”

This is NOT the reaction you’re going for, from a man you’ve just shot, but the the distraction allowed the heroic officer to take back his sidearm and win the confrontation.


15 posted on 08/09/2016 8:29:01 AM PDT by BDParrish (O God, please bless America!)
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To: katana

My condolences on.your tragic loss, a horrible experience shared by many here.


16 posted on 08/09/2016 8:36:11 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: GMMC0987

Got it. Thanks!


17 posted on 08/09/2016 8:36:18 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: SkyDancer

You. Too, must be of the age to have watched Hopalong Cassidy, Roy Rodgers, and others, all of whom possessed the magic 6/100 Colt six shooters.


18 posted on 08/09/2016 8:38:10 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper

Nope. Way way before my time. Retro TV has those old westerns. Randolph Scott is my favorite. He’s a hunk.


19 posted on 08/09/2016 8:45:47 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: w1n1

We don’t need no ugly guns. And THAT is an ugly gun.


20 posted on 08/09/2016 8:54:13 AM PDT by IronJack
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