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1 posted on 05/12/2016 8:40:32 AM PDT by w1n1
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#SnakeLivesMatter.


2 posted on 05/12/2016 8:45:59 AM PDT by C19fan
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I think this guy is full of carp


3 posted on 05/12/2016 8:46:11 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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You sure you were not using the Bond Arms Snake Mild Annoyer model? They look very similar at a glance.

4 posted on 05/12/2016 8:46:17 AM PDT by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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I suspect the #9 shot is the problem, not the .410. I use #4 shot for most pest control, and killed a snake that was messing with my dog at ~30 feet, a shot which resulted in complete separation of head from body (snake, not dog, who was behind me at the moment).


5 posted on 05/12/2016 8:46:31 AM PDT by LambSlave
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6 posted on 05/12/2016 8:46:55 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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Life is full of experiences. Here’s another bit of wisdom, don’t whizz on an electric fence.


7 posted on 05/12/2016 8:48:40 AM PDT by Richard Axtell (The March to the Abyss is speeding up.)
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I have a Cimarron Titan Derringer which is basically a short Bond arms two barrel tip up. 45 LC/410. Barrel probably 2.5 inches.

Number 9 shot is about .08” in diameter and with that short a barrel, I’d expect that the “direct” hit discussed was like rock salt spread out to the snake.

If you want to eff up a snake, hit him with a 12 gauge at that same distance and see what happens.


14 posted on 05/12/2016 8:53:41 AM PDT by Gaffer
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Your problem is 2 fold #9 shot and a 3” barrel bond arms gun. No barrel length = no velocity and “9 is very small shot and will not retain what little energy you are getting through that short barrel. An H&R single shot full choke with some #6 or #4 would have easily done the trick.


15 posted on 05/12/2016 8:54:10 AM PDT by BobinIL
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I thought he would be talking about ricochet off the surface of the water.


19 posted on 05/12/2016 8:55:53 AM PDT by NonValueAdded ("He's a winner in the process of winning. People like that." Scott Adams)
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There’s a lot to be said for crew-served weapons. I don’t like snakes either.


20 posted on 05/12/2016 8:56:07 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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I’ve shot quite a few water moccasins.

The first time I used a .22, nearly point blank range. The guy was swimming right at me, finally stopped about a foot away. (Yes, I was on shore and about to run.)

I fished him out of the lake and counted the holes.
It took seven hits to finally stop the guy.

After that I used a 20 gauge shotgun. Cut the little guys in two, and put a big hole in the big ones. Always shot at the part that was on the surface of the water. Stopped ‘em all.


21 posted on 05/12/2016 8:58:58 AM PDT by EternalHope (Something wicked this way comes. Be ready.)
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Water moccasin has dark stripes that are continuous over the back and sides. Harmless water snake has splotchy black areas that don't form stripes. The pic shows a typical water moccasin.
25 posted on 05/12/2016 9:02:53 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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#9 shot works fine on wasps but is too small for a snake.

7 or larger. Take the shot cup out and replace with wads as the shot cup spins and produces a hole in the middle of the pattern.


28 posted on 05/12/2016 9:04:29 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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About 8 feet away

#8 shot

410 load

Basically an inch of muzzle to achieve velocity.

Not a big suprise.

I have a Judge revolver that is essentially the same barrel length (although w/5 rounds), and I wouldn't rely on it to bother anything more than 6 feet away with birdshot. I keep buckshot in it in the car (probably 4 pellets per round) for that special guest.

29 posted on 05/12/2016 9:07:24 AM PDT by freedomlover
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You can also just shoot 1 inch or so to the side of the snake and it will take him out.

Always worthwhile to shoot at paper and find out where and how big the hole is.


32 posted on 05/12/2016 9:12:32 AM PDT by buffaloguy
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Part of his problem is he used a 3” derringer instead of an 18” shotgun.


33 posted on 05/12/2016 9:13:08 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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Did I mention that I really hate snakes, especially water moccasins?
I got bit by one 60 years ago when I was 10. My dad killed the critter with a steel bar and then took me and the snake to the hospital, where I received antivenom, a tetanus shot, and had a surgeon extract several dozen teeth and fangs from my hand.
Did I mention that I really hate snakes?


35 posted on 05/12/2016 9:20:26 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (The reason for Gun Control has always been Government's Fear of Rebellion.)
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We used to live on Oyster Creek, lots of water Mocs and copperheads.

Right outside my front door was a moccasin laying on the grass. I grabbed the first gun I could find, a deer rifle and shot him at close range, about 3 feet. It blew him up on the roof of the house and dug a hole in the yard.

Then I had to get a ladder, get up on the roof, get him off. Work work work!

37 posted on 05/12/2016 9:29:37 AM PDT by Ditter (God Bless Texas!)
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The #9 shot works just fine on snakes. It is what is used in the Speer 38 and 44 shotshells. I reload those myself and they kill snakes dead no problem.


39 posted on 05/12/2016 9:42:59 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be banned and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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When I’m in a heavily populated area and run into a Water Moccasin, I find that I get the best results by using the natural enemy of the Water Moccasin.....the Reindeer.

I bring out a reindeer and the Water Moccasin sees it and he gets all happy and excited because he thinks Santa is there to give him a present. Remember, Water Moccasins have a pea-sized brain, just like Al Franken.
So the Water Moccasin is standing there grinning and clapping his hands and thinking he’s going to get a new video game system from Santa and the Reindeer just stomps him into the dirt.

For every solution, there is an easy problem. Or something like that.


42 posted on 05/12/2016 10:07:27 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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