Posted on 03/29/2016 10:05:40 AM PDT by MichCapCon
The conservative media sites CNS News and The Blaze generated a buzz when they reported that U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch had discussed taking legal action against climate change deniers. The stories focused on recent testimony Lynch gave before a Senate committee hearing.
But the stories appear to exaggerate the extent to which the Department of Justice has gone after climate change skeptics. According to Lynchs office, the action, asking the FBI investigate an allegation of wrongdoing, involves one party the oil company Exxon Mobil. Individuals have not been targeted for investigation, according to the department, nor were any individuals mentioned in the letter that sparked the inquiry.
An AG spokesman said it received a request in 2015 from two California Democratic congressmen, Ted Lieu and Mark DeSaulnier, to investigate Exxon Mobil over claims that the oil company misrepresented its own research on global warming. The spokesman stated it is standard procedure to have the FBI put requests under review to see if a federal investigation is warranted. The letter from Lieu and DeSaulnier asked that the department look into whether Exxon Mobil violated the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act, consumer protection, truth in advertising, public health, shareholder protection or other laws.
Its the kind of investigation, depending on how it is conducted, that could veer into prosecutorial censorship, said Peter Scheer, the executive director of the First Amendment Coalition in California. But Scheer said a justice department investigation into Exxon Mobil doesnt have to go the way of censorship and shouldnt.
Scheer said that corporations are not protected by the First Amendment if they make filings to government agencies or formal statements to the public that are deliberately misleading.
Where they can get into trouble and where the First Amendment doesnt protect them is if they are fraudulently concealing specific and credible information that they have or they are deliberately misrepresenting the information that they have, Scheer said. Corporations and the people who run them are allowed to express opinions that are not politically correct and differ from the official government position, Scheer said.
Scheer said individuals such as college professors who are labeled as climate change deniers could not be penalized by the government for their views on global warming.
Absolutely not, Scheer said.
Pat Michaels, the director of the Center for the Study of Science at the Cato Institute, called the possibility of an investigation of Exxon Mobil political grandstanding. In the committee hearing at which Lynch testified, Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse (D-Rhode Island) made mention of the tobacco industrys multibillion-dollar settlement with the government in 1998. The settlement came over claims the tobacco industry deliberately misrepresented its own research in the promotion and advertising of cigarettes.
In the tobacco litigation, you had dead bodies, Michaels said. With global warming, you have people living twice as long as they were 100 years ago in societies powered by fossil fuels. Its completely the opposite. How in the world can you prosecute someone for falsely representing this? You cant demonstrate the net harm.
Exxon Mobil spokesman Allan Jeffers said the claims against the oil company were not credible.
Activists and media cherry-picked statements attributed to various company employees to wrongly suggest definitive conclusions were reached by company researchers at the early stages of scientific investigation of the potential for climate change, Jeffers said in an email. They ignored statements demonstrating that our researchers recognized the developing nature of climate science at the time, which mirrored global understanding. To suggest that we had reached definitive conclusions, decades before the worlds experts and while climate science was in an early stage of development, is not credible.
Nobody ever claimed otherwise. However it's pretty clear that going after corporations is just the first step.
We're all set, then. I thought this was some trumped up BS but it's Exxon, so, ok. /sarc
Climates do change. However, there is no imminent existential threat to the earth or humanity associated with it.
But didn’t Citizens United conclude that corporation were actually made of of people with rights? This may just be another sideways attack on Citizens United.
Slick slope, all waxed up by Bammy.
If she were White and Republican she would be forced to resign over denying the Constitution.
I hate big corporate conglomerates like Exxon Mobil but I hate government, the US government much MUCH MORE!
When is it the job of government to decide what scientific principles or theories are 'correct'.
These are law students who couldn't pass Rocks for Jocks.
Whereas you, Galileo, son of the late Vincenzio Galilei, of Florence, aged seventy years, were denounced in 1615, to this Holy Office, for holding as true a false doctrine taught by many, namely, that the sun is immovable in the center of the world, and that the earth moves, and also with a diurnal motion; also, for having pupils whom you instructed in the same opinions; also, for maintaining a correspondence on the same with some German mathematicians; also for publishing certain letters on the sun-spots, in which you developed the same doctrine as true; also, for answering the objections which were continually produced from the Holy Scriptures, by glozing the said Scriptures according to your own meaning; and whereas thereupon was produced the copy of a writing, in form of a letter professedly written by you to a person formerly your pupil, in which, following the hypothesis of Copernicus, you include several propositions contrary to the true sense and authority of the Holy Scriptures; therefore (this Holy Tribunal being desirous of providing against the disorder and mischief which were thence proceeding and increasing to the detriment of the Holy Faith) by the desire of his Holiness and the Most Emminent Lords, Cardinals of this supreme and universal Inquisition, the two propositions of the stability of the sun, and the motion of the earth, were qualified by the Theological Qualifiers as follows:
The proposition that the sun is in the center of the world and immovable from its place is absurd, philosophically false, and formally heretical; because it is expressly contrary to Holy Scriptures.
The proposition that the earth is not the center of the world, nor immovable, but that it moves, and also with a diurnal action, is also absurd, philosophically false, and, theologically considered, at least erroneous in faith.
The shakedown. On steriods.
Otherwise known as TheShaptonizing.
Same technique; different target.
Never ever mention Obama and slick slope in the same sentence again. It is racist, even though Bammy loves him some Asians.
Bump
How about going after liberal politicians who make deliberately misleading statements?
Like Harry Reid deliberately lying in congress that Mitt Romney had not filed tax returns?
The only climate change I have seen is the political climate has changed for the worse.
Why shouldn’t politicians and advertisers be held accountable, too?
First they came for Exxon, and I didn’t care because I owned no stock...
What about scientists who manipulate date to falsely show climate change where none exists?
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