Posted on 02/26/2016 10:05:27 AM PST by newgeezer
Quick analysis of the debate.
One word: Finally.
Cruz and Rubio surrounded Trump and absolutely decimated him. They attacked his record, his integrity, his character. They interrupted him and talked over him. Rubio in particular was vicious. At a few points he laughed in Trump's face. He made Trump look ridiculous and treated him like a clown.
And that's exactly what they both needed to do, and it's exactly what Trump deserves. The great mystery is why they waited 7 months to do it.
Think about it: There have been approximately 87 debates, and all of the candidates have been on TV approximately 18 million times, double that for Trump, yet this is the FIRST TIME anyone has brought up the fact that Trump is CURRENTLY BEING INVESTIGATED FOR MASSIVE FINANCIAL FRAUD. Rubio hit Trump on this point repeatedly, thank God, but it's the first time any of the candidates breathed a word of it. Rubio also feasted on Trump for hiring illegal immigrants (yes, Trump is the "nationalist" candidate who hires foreign illegals to build his skyscrapers) and being fined a million dollars for it, and again, this has not come up on the campaign trail before.
I'm ecstatic that they both have apparently learned their lesson, I'm flabbergasted that it took this long, and I hope they keep it up. Trump is a fool, a coward, a liar, and a hypocrite, and that's how you must treat him. Make him look like a little boy. Make him look like a buffoon. Refuse to take him seriously. You beat Trump by dragging his skeletons out of the closet, by exposing his secrets, by mocking him ruthlessly. That's how you defeat the King Clown, and it's what I've been saying for months. And it's what Rubio and Cruz did tonight, finally, praise God.
Watching Trump be harassed and flummoxed all night was a great moment for America. It was such a patriotic moment that a bald eagle flew into my living room and wept tears of joy. I'm not kidding. That actually happened.
I don't know if this will matter. Trump's fans are infatuated with him and have sacrificed their reason on the altar of celebrity worship. But if there's any chance of stopping him, this is how it's done. You eat him alive, figuratively speaking, until only bones remain. That's the only way to do it. I've been trying to tell you guys this from the beginning. Rubio and Cruz seemed to have caught on tonight. Let's hope it matters in the end, although I'm afraid it might be too late.
yeah not really.......
yeah it sounds like he IS DONE FOR NOW!!!
ITS ALL OVER FOR TRUMP!!!
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Senator Cruz -- Dump This Dumb S.O.B.!
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Are people like you intentionally dense?
“How many times does Trump have to say if Israel is attacked he would defend Israel regardless of the newly signed Iran Treaty?”
Israel is attacked constantly by Palestinian terrorists. They cannot be negotiated with. They have to be dictated to. Hamas is a terrorist organization. The Palestinians democratically elected Hamas to lead them. There have to be consequences for this.
The conflict between Israel and the Palestinians is one-sided. It is a liberal view to treat the Palestinian side as legitimate.
“The Palestine issue is nothing if it is not a real estate deal. “
Don’t be naive. Israel is facing an existential threat from terrorists. The land grabs are nothing but a pretense for attacking the one free, representative government in the middle east.
If you look at a map of Israel and the Palestinian territory, you can see that no real estate deal can fix it. Gaza is separated from other areas where Palestinians live. And most of Israel’s neighbors are not friendly to her.
This is why a “solution” has been elusive.
But anyone who thinks Israel can just cut a deal is naive and unrealistic about the situation.
“I am watching ‘Conservatism’ become Radicals.”
“In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.” - George Orwell
“I am looking for a president who can LEAD us”
Trump is certainly a leader. He knows how to get people to follow him. He is a very successful business man. In fact, I think he has had such focus on business and making billions, he has not spent as much time as some studying the underlying political philosophies and why some work and some do not.
He needs to lead and persuade people to try conservatism. That is what Reagan did. And it worked. Right now, he is persuading many who identify as conservative to suspend conservatism to save conservatism. He is already shifting left BEFORE the general. That is alarming, and many here are completely unwilling to demand he govern conservatively.
The cult of personality is what gave us Obama. We need someone who will lead, yes. But he needs to lead conservatively.
Baloney. it is a smart side to stay out of an almost two thousand year conflict until such time as our presence is beneficial. Yell at the United Nations that have legitimized Palestine. The u.N. has done everything to support Palestine and nothing to support Israel. withdraw our support from the U.N. and it will be far more effective than bogging down in a conflict where Israel is doing fine on their own. They do have the Dome thanks to our efforts. I am 100% for defending Israel but I am not for us getting in the middle of another mideast conflict that we are not going to solve. Trump has said if it becomes necessary he will stand with Israel. That is enough.
Trump is a Nationalist., That Trumps “conservative blockheadedness.” You have to save the nation before and during the time you reaffirm the constitution as it was written. There are certain PRIORITIES which cannot be ignored.
“Are people like you intentionally dense?”
Obviously it took great mental effort on your part to string together that pathetic attempt at arguing a point. But you lack a point. You have no argument.
If it is such a strain to articulate actual information, facts, and use logic, you may want to move on.
Here is the debate over the Israel-Palestinian issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Egl-A2vQZ0
Rubio points out the clear fact that Palestinians are not negotiating in good faith which means we can not be “neutral” nor treat the issue as a “negotiation”. Trump disagreed. He dismissed this as irrelevant.
Trying to sit down and broker a deal between Israel and Hamas is like trying to negotiate a deal between Bin Laden and the US.
Here is what Trump said about Iran and ISIS to Sean Hannity: “we have people that are diplomats doing our (negotiating). They know nothing about negotiating. All they know how to do is keep their job. They know nothing about negotiating. If we had the right people, we could solve the ISIS problem and we could solve the Iran problem and a lot more quickly than youd think.”
Trump needs to make it clear he will not negotiate with terrorists. Obama shocked everyone while campaigning by claiming he could negotiate a deal with Iran. The are a state sponsor of terrorism. There should not have been a negotiation. Trump merely argues that it was a bad deal. it was one-sided. The fact is, there was no deal to be made. We must demand terrorists make a complete, unconditional surrender or be blown to kingdom come.
“You have to save the nation before and during the time you reaffirm the constitution as it was written.”
Sounds an awful lot like you want to suspend conservatism to save conservatism.
I was impressed with Trump when he started his campaign. He managed to decimate the media when they attacked him. For that he is my hero. He has attacked the media, Hillary, and Obama. Sadly, he saved some of his worst vitriol for the most conservative candidate in the race. It was not enough to simply try to undermine Cruz by arguing he may not be a natural born citizen. He had to start maliciously slandering the guy. He attacked him worse than Rosie O’Donnell.
Many of his supporters followed suit. If the same things had been said by Hillary or Bernie, people around here would have piling on them for it. But since they came from Trump, they had to be true.
And yet Trump can not bring himself to criticize Planned Parenthood which he claims does many, many wonderful services. Does that include selling baby body parts?
Quite frankly, a nation that allows this, and that allows homosexuals to adopt children and brutally torture them, which is something that is happening all the time now, and a nation that robs people of the rights of free speech and religion is a nation that does not deserve to exist. What is the point of being a “nationalist” if this is the nation you are preserving?
Trump has a lot of things going for him. His nationalism is one of them. But whether he will govern conservatively is highly questionable. And his supporters who claim to be conservative will not demand him to commit to govern conservatively. I am supporting the most conservative candidate in the race, Ted Cruz.
“Trump has said if it becomes necessary he will stand with Israel. That is enough.”
Here is the debate over the Israel-Palestinian issue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Egl-A2vQZ0
I will repeat what I said earlier.
Rubio pointed out the clear fact that Palestinians are not negotiating in good faith which means we can not be neutral nor treat the issue as a negotiation. Trump disagreed. He dismissed this as irrelevant.
Trying to sit down and broker a deal between Israel and Hamas is like trying to negotiate a deal between Bin Laden and the US.
Here is what Trump said about Iran and ISIS to Sean Hannity: we have people that are diplomats doing our (negotiating). They know nothing about negotiating. All they know how to do is keep their job. They know nothing about negotiating. If we had the right people, we could solve the ISIS problem and we could solve the Iran problem and a lot more quickly than youd think.
Trump needs to make it clear he will not negotiate with terrorists. Obama shocked everyone while campaigning by claiming he could negotiate a deal with Iran. They are a state sponsor of terrorism. There should not have been a negotiation. Trump merely argues that it was a bad deal. That it was one-sided. The fact is, there was no deal to be made. We must demand terrorists make a complete, unconditional surrender or be blown to kingdom come.
Before you start calling me names, like naive, check your preconceptions and read my comments more carefully.
The obvious conditions you describe are just that, obvious. They are also, if I may be so bold, real estate issues.
The PLO and related thugocracies in the ME claim territory currently in the hands of Israel. This makes the issue, for them, a real estate problem. They claim territory to which they have no legitimate historical claim.
Enough with Rubio and his faggoty fantasies.
Watching Trump dominate the SEC on Tuesday will be an even greater moment for America.
You’re right. “Both are ineligible.”
Trump is holding back on the documentation regarding that until the time is perfect.
WE WANT AN AMERICAN PRESIDENT!
Oh, we’ll get an American president and it’ll be Hellary. Notice she hasn’t said a word. She’s biding her time. If somehow she can damage Trump enough to get Cruz or Rubio on the ballot, she’ll play the “standing” card and have the whole eligibly drag out in SCOTUS for two years. That’s where the Kenyan will get those extra years he once said he’d have. SCOTUS will then crown Hellary. After a couple years with obama in the UN, she’ll repay the favor by appointing him to a life term in SCOTUS.
“The PLO and related thugocracies in the ME claim territory currently in the hands of Israel. This makes the issue, for them, a real estate problem.”
That’s like saying a person breaking into your home trying to kill you and your family is just a misunderstanding about the address you live at. It’s not a real estate deal. Don’t make ridiculous claims like this.
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