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To: MurrietaMadman
Do you have an example of the context of Finicum's alleged statement about not going to prison that can be verified?

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"I'm not going to end up in prison," said Mr. Finicum, 54, who often appeared at news conferences wearing a broad cowboy hat on his head and a sidearm on his hip. "I would rather die than be caged."

Not getting dropped 13 seconds after you get out of your vehicle with your hands up.

He should have conducted himself like the others if he wanted to go to jail with the others. Instead he fled, attempted to crash through a roadblock, exited his vehicle and reached with his right hand toward where he typically wore a 9mm on an under the shoulder holster. That's straight up 'suicide by cop'. I sincerely don't understand the efforts to spin his actions any other way. Listen to the what the man said, they are consistent with his actions and his fate.

17 posted on 02/03/2016 11:24:04 AM PST by Gunslingr3
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To: Gunslingr3

That Finicum was trying to crash through a questionably legal roadblock is not proven likely.

That he was reaching for a holstered weapon has not been proven likely either. There is a report, not proven to the public either as far as I know, that Finicum left his weapons behind and in the care of a friend prior to his last ride.

The efforts to spin his actions any other way is not how I would describe what is going on. Getting to the truth of the matter is closer to what is going on in the hearts and minds of the concerned.

It’s not like political administration after political administration in recent decades have not shown they are no longer respectful of the Constitution or the Americans who are. The idea that Finicum’s death was payback for armed citizens successfully short circuiting an increasingly dangerous situation at the Bundy Ranch has to be dealt with before it can be denied.

The link you provided is not functioning. The information you gleaned from that link may be questionable. I can’t confirm this but iirc Finicum was reported to be in his seventies.


24 posted on 02/03/2016 12:09:13 PM PST by MurrietaMadman
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To: Gunslingr3; Jack Black; MurrietaMadman
He should have conducted himself like the others if he wanted to go to jail with the others. Instead he fled

Both women witnesses said that someone fired on the truck at the first stop.

WOuld you have fled, Gunslingr - or would you have stayed to palaver?

32 posted on 02/03/2016 7:29:51 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Gunslingr3; MurrietaMadman; Jack Black; Ray76
[Finicum] attempted to crash through a roadblock...

Freeper Ray76 has conducted an analysis from the video that Finicum came around the blind curve doing in the mid-60s.

It's evident he had NO time to do other than what he did, without steaming straight into the trucks parked there.

I like Jack Black's analysis about the "unmarked vehicles" everywhere. I didn't notice that little fact before, but now it stands out like a sore thumb.

33 posted on 02/03/2016 7:35:51 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Gunslingr3
"reached with his right hand toward where he typically wore a 9mm on an under the shoulder holster"

Conjecture. Understandable though, as that's the narrative LEO would have you believe.

Neither you nor anybody else who has viewed this video knows for sure whether Finicim was reaching for a gun (after raising his arms in surrender) or reacting to being shot.

43 posted on 02/04/2016 12:44:18 AM PST by gettinolder
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