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There’s a Way to Stop Mass Shootings, and You Won’t Like It.
Rob Myers ^ | October 6, 2015 | Rob Myers

Posted on 10/13/2015 9:00:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There’s a Way to Stop Mass Shootings, and You Won’t Like It.

That’s right. You’re not going to like it because it’s going to require you to do something personally, as opposed to shouting for the government, or anyone to “do something!”

You ready? Here it is:

“Notice those around you who seem isolated, and engage them.”

If every one of us did this we’d have a culture that was deeply committed to ensuring no one was left lonely. And make no mistake, as I’ve written before loneliness is what causes these shooters to lash out. People with solid connections to other people don’t indiscriminately fire guns at strangers.

I know what you’re thinking. That’s never going to work because no one is going to make the effort to connect with the strange kid sitting by himself at lunch each day. No one is going to reach out to the gawky, awkward guy at work and ask him about his weekend.

You’re probably right and that’s an absolute shame.

Because I can tell you the things that aren’t going to work in this country when it comes to stopping these heinous acts. But they seem to be all anyone says, when inevitably, another person comes forward to inflict their tortured pain on innocent people.View Post

  1. Ban All Guns! – Due to the reading of the 2nd amendment and the precedents established by recent Supreme Court cases, this isn’t going anywhere. You’d need an amendment to the Constitution and there will NEVER be 30+ states willing to overturn it. Never mind the multitude of good reasons for its existence, no amount of outrage will overturn it so let’s just stop.
  2. Ban All Guns! (pt. 2) – Assuming you actually could overturn the 2nd and outlaw every firearm in the country, then you’d have to go out and get them. Famously, there are more guns than people in the U.S. You couldn’t come close to collecting them all. Further, if Prohibition and the War on Drugs have taught us anything it’s that those intent on breaking the law are going to do just that. Laws be damned.
  3. Ban Scary Guns Like the AR-15! – Fully auto weapons are already banned*. Most of these shootings occur with a handgun, plain and simple, and these aren’t going anywhere. Murder is illegal, and that doesn’t seem to stop these individuals from performing these atrocious acts. Do you think if there was a ban on shotguns that would stop them?
  4. Keep Them Out of the Hands of Bad People! – Felons are prohibited from owing a firearm already. But let’s not forget, the overwhelming majority of these mass shootings aren’t done by criminals and their guns were obtained legally. How can you know who is going to do something like this? You can’t.
  5. Do Something About Mental Health! – Cool. Yeah. So, like, free psychologists visits for everyone? Even if you could, the people that have done this haven’t been mentally ill, by and large. And, let’s not forget that medical records are private. Would you endorse mandatory psych screening for everyone and those records being sent to the government? Maybe just those who wish to own a gun? Remember, not every person who has engaged in a mass shooting has owned the gun they performed the act with. This is a complete non-starter of an issue with an insane price tag that does nothing to actually keep a person committed to violence from putting their hands on a gun.
  6. Do… SOMETHING! – Gotcha. What do you want to do? “SOMETHING!” Ok, what do you have in mind? “I DON’T KNOW! BUT SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO SOMETHING!” Sure. Agreed. But what? Even Obama has had to say in his latest speech how routine it’s become.

If you can’t tell by this point in the list, there is NOTHING the government or any other organization can do to prevent these events.

You can’t effectively keep drugs out of the hands of those intent on doing drugs. You can’t keep beer out of the hands of high schoolers intent on getting beer. You have a HUGE supply of weapons everywhere and concrete federal law protecting those weapons. You’d have as much luck passing regulation against tornadoes. It would be equally as effective.

So there it is. The god’s honest truth. No entity can do anything meaningful (more than is presently being done) to thwart a disaffected person hell-bent on committing such an act.

But you can.

You can talk to your co-worker for a few minutes. You can talk to the kid in your Physics class that appears to be all alone. You can teach your children to do the same, to make sure no one is left to feel totally isolated. Because that’s the breeding ground. That’s where the seeds are planted.

Community is easy to take for granted. Most of us have strong family connections and healthy friendships. Most feel as though they’re part of a group, be it community, religious, or work related. But it’s increasingly easy for people on the edges to withdraw and it’s easy for us to forget them.

No, it’s comfortable to forget them. It’s preferred to forget them. It’s highly desired to forget them. And we have to change that.

Holding a sign isn’t going to do anything. And writing your congressman will do even less. But you can do something today, this week, this month. The people you engage may not become life-long friends, and they don’t need to be, but it could be enough to keep someone away from the darkness and isolation needed to eventually think lashing out is an effective strategy for dealing with their pain.

If you’re conflicted at all about the subject, I can’t encourage you enough to read this post by Sam Harris on the subject immediately following Newtown, CT, that I’ve written about before.

* Edit: Fully auto weapons are legal, but only under the strictest of conditions and at a price that makes them nigh affordable for the vast majority. For all intents and purposes, let’s just call them banned. The AR-15 is not a fully auto weapon, but is confused for one based on appearance.


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1 posted on 10/13/2015 9:00:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: 3D-JOY; abner; Abundy; AGreatPer; Albion Wilde; AliVeritas; alisasny; ALlRightAllTheTime; ...

PING!


2 posted on 10/13/2015 9:01:18 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Democrats and GOP-e: a difference of degree, not philosophy)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yea, banning all guns ... tell that to Obama’s sons and other criminals.


3 posted on 10/13/2015 9:03:50 PM PDT by doc1019 (Out of my mind ... back in 5)
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To: doc1019
Got to ban Muslims and these items too then:


4 posted on 10/13/2015 9:10:57 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Bump


5 posted on 10/13/2015 9:14:16 PM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: jsanders2001

I would rather deny them the ability to breath.

(to not too)


6 posted on 10/13/2015 9:17:32 PM PDT by doc1019 (Out of my mind ... back in 5)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The problem is, only men could reasonably be expected to "reach out" and attempt to "connect with" the isolated geeks and lonely weirdos on the fringe of society, i.e., those who are potential mass-murderers.

Because if girls and young women were to try to "engage" them, they would be risking being harassed and stalked.

Regards,

7 posted on 10/13/2015 9:21:04 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
“Notice those around you who seem isolated, and engage them.”

Sorry Rob, but I don't think that would help anyone whatsoever as far as I am concerned. My wife is the only one I am ever around. Can I have a rim-shot?

8 posted on 10/13/2015 9:21:26 PM PDT by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It may help a few people.

But it wont stop it. There aill always be people who hole themselves up and finally crack.

Further, muslims have major family connections and close relationships and they suicide bomb and do mass shootings and are more than happy to murder infidels.

So this kinda isnt a viable solution.


9 posted on 10/13/2015 9:23:10 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Befriend a mass murderer. I’ll buy that advice for a dollar.


10 posted on 10/13/2015 9:23:32 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: doc1019

“Yea, banning all guns ... tell that to Obama’s sons and other criminals.”

That’s why he said in the article that it wouldn’t. Reading is fundamental.


11 posted on 10/13/2015 9:28:27 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Isolation is a symptom of these shooters not the cause. Plenty of decent folks want to be isolated and left alone; it’s their right. Liberalism’s fatal ideology is the root cause for all of these mass shootings. Every common symptom of these shooters can be traced back to liberal meddling — every one of them! Laxed security, psychotropic drug use, twisted logic, education, PC BS, entitlement, bigotry, absence of faith and morality, low self-esteem, and on and on. The reason these shooters slip past so many people for so many years, despite clear early warnings, is that Liberalism enables them every step of the way!


12 posted on 10/13/2015 9:30:20 PM PDT by xander
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To: DesertRhino

And have you ever heard of emphasizing an imperative? Comprehension is fundamental.


13 posted on 10/13/2015 9:33:13 PM PDT by doc1019 (Out of my mind ... back in 5)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

[[“Notice those around you who seem isolated, and engage them.”]]

mmmm yes, that’;s exactly what the marine sniper did with a fella who ended killing him and another marine at a shooting range-


14 posted on 10/13/2015 9:49:09 PM PDT by Bob434
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To: tumblindice

LOL!


15 posted on 10/13/2015 9:50:46 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: doc1019

He specifically said a gun ban wouldn’t work. You didn’t read, you just saw bullet points and assumed they were proposals.


16 posted on 10/13/2015 10:05:14 PM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,")
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Get rid of no-fault divorce, abortion and gay marriage.

Strengthen families and put Jesus back in public life.

Encourage mothers to raise their own kids from birth to 6-years old.

17 posted on 10/13/2015 10:11:12 PM PDT by donna (Pray for Revival.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How about we just lock crazies up?


18 posted on 10/13/2015 10:33:29 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo ("There's a time to preach and a time to fight." -John Peter Muhlenberg)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
This whole talking thing. Not really sure I'm down with that. What are the chances I'll be talking to Leftists? I can barely tolerate them breathing, and you want me to relate to them as if they are some kind of sentient humanish thing?

Next thing they are telling me about chem trails and how they tried vegan because all animals have souls except that he's an atheist, and you can list 21 criminal acts by Hillary but that's just Republican envy, so...

I've been hanging over at Quora, poking sticks between the bars, lately, and we are dealing with pallet quantities of stupid, there.

You see? There are mass shootings that should be reconsidered in light of who's getting shot.

19 posted on 10/13/2015 11:07:44 PM PDT by jonascord (It's sarcasm unless otherwise noted... This time, it's not.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"What do you want me to do, go on television and tell 3 million people they have to be *nice* to each other? Being miserable and treating other people like dirt is every New Yorker's god-given right. Your 2 minutes are up, good night gentlemen. "


20 posted on 10/13/2015 11:45:30 PM PDT by DannyTN
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