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How the North kept the South poor
Jackson Jambalaya ^ | July 13, 2015 | kingfish

Posted on 07/14/2015 6:35:16 AM PDT by prplhze2000

This 1938 Jackson Daily News article tells the story of how the Southern governors fought to level the playing field with the North when it came to railroad freight rates. The railroad commissions kept the freight rates very slanted towards the North. Canada, yes- Canada, enjoyed lower freight rates on railroads than did the South; so slanted weighted against the South were the rates. Thus a builder in New Orleans could get steel shipped more cheaply from Pittsburgh than he could from Birmingham....

(Excerpt) Read more at kingfish1935.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics
KEYWORDS: civilwar; dixie; fdr; north; reconstruction; south; yanktrollbait
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1 posted on 07/14/2015 6:35:17 AM PDT by prplhze2000
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To: prplhze2000

war on the south still goes on today by the north east especially.


2 posted on 07/14/2015 6:39:59 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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While I don't think he's all that as a presidential candidate, former senator Jim Webb (rumored to be running from Viriginia) wrote a stunning book about the history of the South from his perspective as a descendent of the Scots-Irish wave of immigrants to the old South who formed the backbone of the populace until the recent alien invasion. He details the economic oppression of the South by the North that contributed both to the Civil War and the occupation of the South by the North after the war.

Click here:


3 posted on 07/14/2015 6:49:41 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (If you can't make a deal with a politician, you can't make a deal. --Donald Trump)
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To: prplhze2000

It’s their own damn fault. They voted for Roosevelt and his new deal.


4 posted on 07/14/2015 6:53:57 AM PDT by Daveinyork ("Trusting government with money and power is like trusting teenaged boys with whiskey and car keys",)
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The Republicans weren’t (and aren’t) all that great, either.


5 posted on 07/14/2015 7:00:10 AM PDT by chesley (Obama -- Muslim or dhimmi? And does it matter?)
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To: prplhze2000

Very true. The railroad barons worked hand-in-glove with Andrew Carnegie and William Clay Frick to keep Pittsburgh the king of steel. Walk around town here and look at buildings from that period and the opulence is just amazing.


6 posted on 07/14/2015 7:15:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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The South could split the North today and no one would do anything about it

1) Obama is too politically driven to have an interest in a “Union”
2) Congress is spineless
3) I would guess that most people in the military come from the South.


7 posted on 07/14/2015 7:39:34 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Albion Wilde

interesting, thank you.


8 posted on 07/14/2015 7:45:59 AM PDT by manc (Marriage =1 man + 1 woman,when they say marriage equality then they should support polygamy)
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yeah...although now it is a real occupation


9 posted on 07/14/2015 7:53:34 AM PDT by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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To: kidd
The South could split the North today and no one would do anything about it

I'd say the main reason is smaller families. The average household has 2 children. Presumably one of those is a son. No way any Union government could bear the 500K dead only sons it would take to hold the country together against a determined secession effort by the red states.

10 posted on 07/14/2015 8:10:07 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Daveinyork

Because the Republicans had done soooooooooo much for the South at that point.

FDR was the first national leader to recognize the problem of an impoverished South. I don’t like his solutions, but he was the first one to say something was wrong. At least he backed the South on the railroad fight.


11 posted on 07/14/2015 8:15:06 AM PDT by prplhze2000
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To: prplhze2000

Very interesting!


12 posted on 07/14/2015 8:17:13 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Of those born of women there is not risen one greater than John The Baptist.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Carnegie and Frick (Henry not William) were long dead and gone before the feds started setting rail road rates. And the mills in Birmingham and the mills in Pittsburgh were owned by the same companies. Why would they conspire to limit the market for their own mills in the South?


13 posted on 07/14/2015 8:18:36 AM PDT by Ditto
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FDR was the first national leader to recognize the problem of an impoverished South. I don’t like his solutions, but he was the first one to say something was wrong. At least he backed the South on the railroad fight.

I've read that trucking regulations were similarly skewed to favor northern shippers and it was Jimmy Carter who ended that.

14 posted on 07/14/2015 8:24:44 AM PDT by fso301
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To: prplhze2000

A $300k house in rural NY state will cost you $10,000 in property taxes.
A $300k house just off the beach in Brunswick County NC will cost you about $1,200 in property taxes.


15 posted on 07/14/2015 8:28:25 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: prplhze2000

On the other hand, I’ve read that the politicians that ran rural Southern counties wanted to keep industry out so that power would be maintained.


16 posted on 07/14/2015 8:35:33 AM PDT by AceMineral (One day men will beg for chains.)
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To: Ditto

The big fights over railroad rate fixing were in the late 1800’s. The National Grange among others was engaged in fights over that. And Carnegie himself had extensive railroad holdings. He stood to benefit either way.

Pittsburgh is a nice place, but it would not have become so opulently wealthy if the fix had not been in.


17 posted on 07/14/2015 8:55:07 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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>> Why would they conspire to limit the market for their own mills in the South? <<

They wouldn’t, of course.

But let’s not allow rational economic analysis to intrude upon a good old-fashioned populist screed against the evil capitalists.


18 posted on 07/14/2015 9:27:32 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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That is true. Mississippi, for example. The planter class wrote the 1890 constitution, which is still in force today. They placed the colleges in rural areas so only the well to do could gain an education. They discouraged industry. It was a true ag mentality.


19 posted on 07/14/2015 9:37:39 AM PDT by prplhze2000
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To: Hawthorn

Guess you never heard of crony capitalists.


20 posted on 07/14/2015 9:38:34 AM PDT by prplhze2000
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