Posted on 06/23/2015 4:16:19 AM PDT by Biggirl
A Facebook friend of mine just tried to get on line to buy some confederate flags - the website was overrun, lol! I’ll send her one of mine!
Just understand that this isn’t a good thing. It plays right into the Leftists’ hands and will serve as “proof” of massive and pervasive societal racism requiring more stringent governmental measures to “stamp out.”
And I’m not passing any sort of value judgement in saying that, just sticking to the mechanics of what is happening. The ANoVA flag is in the process of being intentionally polarized (again) under the Alinsky model. I have a good number of Leftist FB friends. Stopped talking politics with them long ago, but I can still see the stuff on their feeds. There are active attempts to stand up various data collection tools to identify people who are displaying the flag and target them on a personal level for social and professional destruction.
This isn’t going to end well. Again, not a value judgement let alone a call for those who display the flag to stand down, but they need to be informed about what’s really going on here.
Well, yes, in this sick world, anything is possible - including personal one-on-one terrorism. A close friend of mine was “swatted” 3 years ago so I know a lot about one-on-one terrorism.
P.S.: Everything conservatives do - even buying a red, white and blue cake on the 4th of July - plays right into leftist hands.
“Which will be portrayed by the Left as even more evidence of the racism they are working so hard to stomp out (through any means necessary).IOW the Left here is exacerbating a problem that only their Leftist policies can solve.”
There are a couple of things that the left has going in their favor on this issue.
One is time and the other is eventually, given enough time somebody will commit some heinous act like the one committed by Dylann Roof.
I once read a book about the 50s that had several chapters about MLK and the early civil rights movement.
MLK counted on the fact that at some point some of the proponents of segregation would cross the line out of anger and hatred and do something so horrific and proudly stand by it that it made it impossible not to take a position either for or against. At that point most people decided that segregation needed to be abolished.
I see this as the same kind of thing. Probably most people don’t care or even notice what flags fly where. At least they didn’t until the pictures of Roof holding a confederate flag surfaced.
For many people who are flag neutral this is a tipping point.
I personally don’t have a dog in this fight but it’s going to be almost impossible to remain neutral and IMHO the majority will decide that the confederate flag doesn’t belong flying over state buildings.
***If the Confederate flag is America’s swastika,***
Which one?
The Bonnie Blue Flag?
The Stars and Bars?
the battle flag?
How many of these WWII AXIS POWERS FLAGS and client states are also hated as much as the Confederate Battle Flag?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axis_powers
Germany
Italy
Japan
Romania
Hungary
Bulgaria
Thailand \Finland
Iraq
Italian Social Republic
Syrian Republic
Italian East Africa
Albanian Kingdom
State of Burma
Flag of the Republic of China-Nanjing (Peace, Anti-Communism, National Construction).svg Reorganized National Government of China
Azad Hind
Independent State of Croatia
Flag of Serbia, 1941-1944.svg Government of National Salvation
Kingdom of Kampuchea
Kingdom of Laos
Mengjiang
Manchukuo
Second Philippine Republic
Empire of Vietnam
And Which Swastika!
https://www.google.com/search?q=navajo+swastika&biw=1024&bih=505&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=wYeJVaOBOMmcgwTolIGAAg&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ
But No-O-o! It is the battle flag of the Confederate armies that is so hated!
next will be a demand to remove ALL CONFEDERATE memorials and Statues from public places!
Apparently you missed my point.
Pin it all to the democrat party as the very symbol of slavery and racism.
Call for the democrat party to change it’s name because “democrat” as used by the democrat party is racist.
Anyone calling themselves a “democrat” advocates slavery.
It’s called fighting fire with fire.
ell that’s a great argument. History is bull shit. Ok. Enjoy your delusion
Al Baby is that you?
Release your inner rebel.
Similarly, one might consider what I posted this morning on another thread:
That there are many Leftist crack-pots who pontificate against traditional values with little or no knowledge or understanding of history, is a given. The real question is how and when to respond to them, in a manner that is effective.
The idea that because the Confederate South had an hierarchical system, such as that in Biblical times; such as that in the Classical era of Greece & Rome; such as that in almost all of Europe from the fall of Rome until the modern era; there was an idea that the lives of workers did not matter, is a ludicrous form of angry myopia that needs to be addressed.
For an example. From the standpoint of whether "Black lives mattered" in the days of the Confederacy: Contrast the relative standing of urban Blacks in most American cities today, with their standing (cumulatively, both as free men and those technically in bondage--as were some we honor from Classical Greece to this day) in the actual days of the Confederacy?
Most of your skilled construction workers, carpenters, masons, shipwrights, etc.., were Black in the deep South. (Some "free," many still technically not; but certainly respected, in the early 1860s.) What happened? The end of the War generation were not able to pass on their skills to their children--corrupted by Leftist politicians of that era, promising instant equality from Government--entitlements just from existing.
White Americans are certainly being victimized by the present Administration in Washington. But, frankly, as anyone who understands the dynamics of human motivations (positive & negative); it is a very close call, which race is being victimized more. Looking at what has been happening in Black neighborhoods in Baltimore, Greater St. Louis, Chicago, etc.; it does not really appear to be the Whites.
Nor is the victimization that terrorizes law abiding Blacks, the result of Policemen doing their jobs; or of Southerners who honor their very American heritage that comes closer than any other to reflecting the values & traditions of the Founding Fathers. To understand what is destroying the quality of "Black lives," you need to look to the centers of Leftwing agitation, and the White House & the hopelessly compromised Republicans, who sit silently--if not providing a friendly chorus--while America is being deconstructed.
(And do not forget who is being most directly victimized by the open Southern border.)
Well the history you seem to believe is certainly bull shit. The real stuff, not so much. The North kept slavery in their states till the end of the war.
Stop deceiving yourself about what the Union set as the goal of the war. It was about stopping independence. That, was the sticking point. Slavery was negotiable, but independence wasn't.
Discussions about slaves and application of Dec of Ind BS
Congressional Congress and constitutional discussions about slaves. BS
Congressional compromises and letting 1 free and 1 slave in at a time. BS
You can ignore the history of the issue all you want. The south supported and fought to retain slavery. If that offends you to say it, you are ignoring reality and history and you are swallowing the BS.
Thank you.
Five Northern States practiced slavery. The Union invaded the South, Not to free slaves, but to stop Independence. That expeditionary force had no instructions to do anything at all about Slavery, it was instructed to stop secession.
Now you can lie to your self, and you can try to lie to others, but you aren't going to get away with lying to me.
I call myself "Diogenes' Lamp" because I shine the light on liars.
Here are the words straight from Lincoln's pen. Read them, and stop lying to yourself.
The Stars and Stripes flew over legal slavery much longer than the battle flag.
Slavery was legal and practiced in the USA before, during and *after* the civil war.
Banish the Stars and Stripes too?
“The war was about who was going to rule the south, not about whether southerners had slaves, just as five northern states did.
You can’t argue that the north was fighting to end slavery when Lincoln could have done so with the five northern states at the flip of his pen.
Just as he tossed the legislators of Maryland (a northern slave state) into jail, he could have ordered all Maryland slaves freed. He had the army to back up his intentions, but his intentions were not that the Maryland slaves should go free, it was that the Southern States should not. “ - DL
EXACTLY!
Well said.
then turn the light around. i don’t think you’re a liar, just ignorant of history.
It burned out long ago after he kept putting pennies in the fuse socket. Maybe we can blame Lincoln! ;’)
Maybe get a few slaves to hold up a light
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