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Well used Colt Officer's Model has been passed down the line
Gun Watch ^ | 26 May, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 05/29/2015 3:14:36 PM PDT by marktwain



My father had a Colt officers model .38 for many years.  I first remember it being in the house about 1960 or so, but he likely had it well before that.  I recall shooting it as a child, and thinking that it was powerful, and loud.  My brother was given the pistol; I did not feel slighted, as there were plenty of guns to go around.  One of the interactions that I had with the old Colt was when it was impounded when my brother got into some legal difficulties.



The Colt was sent to the Crime Lab in Madison, Wisconsin.   I was going to graduate school in Madison at the time.   My father still owned the pistol, and he asked if there was anything I could do to check on it.    I made a visit to the Crime Lab and inquired as to what the status of the revolver was.  They asked if I was a lawyer.  I said that I had studied the law a bit (which was true).   A couple of weeks later, the pistol was back in my father's possession (about 300 miles away).



Now several decades later, the revolver has been refinished.  Perhaps it had picked up some rust, I never understood the reason for the refinish.  I recall it being in better shape, but a lot can happen in 40 years.

It has been passed on to the next generation.    I know that there are experts who can give me an idea of some of the quirks of the pistol.   I do not have a serial number.

Is the cylinder pin/ejector rod standard?   Examples that I have seen have a different end shape, that is not as broad as this one.

The cylinder latch is different than most Officer models that I have seen.  Was it a substitute, or an older version?   Maybe it was an economy measure during WWII?



While the pistol has considerable sentimental value to the younger set, the finish has been rather beat up, and the refinish job left much to be desired.

When I took the pictures, it still locked up tight, but the double action trigger was a bit stiffer than the Smith & Wesson models that I have become accustomed to.   The single action pull was delightful.

I always liked the sight adjustment system on these guns, even if the notch and bead were very fine, smaller than what I now prefer.


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Update: I am told that my Grandfather traded for the pistol, sometime between 1905 and 1950....  might have been in the 20's.   That would mean that the Colt has been in the family for five generations.  I also recall a very nice walnut ammuntion box that went with the gun.  It held 50 or 60 rounds in individual holes, with brass fixtures for the lid.  I do not know what happened to it. 


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I have always prefered the long barrelled revolvers, even though they are more difficult to conceal. Six inches seems a very nice length for a revolver barrel.
1 posted on 05/29/2015 3:14:36 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Ping on an Officers Model Colt.


2 posted on 05/29/2015 3:15:26 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Are you Dean Weingarten? If you are, can we become family?


3 posted on 05/29/2015 3:18:40 PM PDT by Lazamataz (America has less than a year left.)
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To: marktwain

I don’t know much about that model but I had a Colt DA Navy .38 which was made in the late 1800s and it had a cylinder latch which was similar to that one.

Makes me think it is probably an old gun.


4 posted on 05/29/2015 3:26:29 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: marktwain
That is the earliest example I have seen. The one I posted is sometimes referred to as "2nd Change". Yours has the cylinder latch of pre-1920's guns like the 1917.

The grips are apparently original like the ones in this photo.

Also curiously, yours looks to be chambered in .38 Colt, not .38 Special (like every other one I've seen). That would also point to it being an early gun, as the .38 Special dates to 1899 (IIRC). The picture should also help in answering your query about the ejector rod.

This is clearly a pre-WWI gun IMO. It even looks like the one on my Great Grandfather's NJ National Guard Pistol Marksmanship medal, which dates to 1909-1912. Thank you for sharing.

5 posted on 05/29/2015 3:28:59 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: marktwain
Colt  Detective Special W PH photo ColtDetectiveSpl_Wph_zpso3qlind8.jpgColt Detective Special 1970 photo ColtDetectiveSPLlogoView_zpsaj4bsnay.jpg I like long tubes too but sometimes the snubbies can be mighty fine.
6 posted on 05/29/2015 3:36:36 PM PDT by Monterrosa-24 (...even more American than a French bikini and a Russian AK-47.)
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To: marktwain

Due to the popularity of Cowboy Shooting, .38 Long Colt (which was Army issue from 1892 until 1909) is commercially available, and not too pricey, considering.

http://www.midwayusa.com/find?dimensionids=10068

Your gun may chamber .38 Special (some Long Colt guns can), but firing such is a risky proposition.


7 posted on 05/29/2015 3:38:07 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I recall the cartridges that were kept with the revolver were wadcutter rounds that were seated nearly flush with the case mouth. Probably a mild load. I doubt that the revolver has had more than a few hundred rounds fired through it. It simply was not shot much. The action and barrel are in excellent condition.


8 posted on 05/29/2015 3:41:58 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Wadcutters would likely have been .38 Special, but as you said, mild.

Interesting thread on THR about this.

http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-567258.html


9 posted on 05/29/2015 3:47:13 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Monterrosa-24

I like the snubbies as well... but I like the long barrelled ones better.


10 posted on 05/29/2015 3:50:06 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Monterrosa-24

The DS is my favorite snubby, thanks for reminding me what an idiot I was for selling the one I had. ;)


11 posted on 05/29/2015 3:51:33 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Monterrosa-24

I have the same gun.It’s my back-up gun on an ankle holster.


12 posted on 05/29/2015 4:14:49 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: marktwain

Is it in Colt .38 long or S&W .38 special?


13 posted on 05/29/2015 4:31:29 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

My colt book shows a page from a 1905 catalog showing it was offered in 38 colt and 38 spl. at that time.

There was a 38 colt short 38 colt long and then 38 S@W spl

Then to confuse things more the 38 S@W that has a bit different case Dia.


14 posted on 05/29/2015 5:25:28 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: marktwain

It appears to be a first series Officers Model. This model is interesting because it has the cover plate on the right side of the gun, unlike the later models which are all on the left. Also it rotates counter-clockwise while modern Colts revolve clockwise.


15 posted on 05/29/2015 5:59:09 PM PDT by gunsmithkat (There is no such thing as Too Many Guns)
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To: riverrunner

The .38 Short Colt is the .361 as well as the .38 S&W. Colt also made the .38 New Police later, which was a .38 S&W clone.


16 posted on 05/29/2015 6:59:51 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: marktwain

I agree a six inch barrel looks great on a revolver. I’m looking to buy a S&W model 66 and my struggle is between a four or six inch barrel.


17 posted on 05/29/2015 7:09:51 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Yardstick

I’ve had my S&W Model 29 for Decades. 6-1/2” Barrel, 44 Mag.

My favorite Pistol. Grip is just right for my hand and it is pretty accurate, though I’m no Dirty Harry. LOL

IMHO - Short Barrel if you Carry, Long Barrel for Fun.


18 posted on 05/29/2015 7:18:29 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Hillary, because it's time for a POTUS without a SCROTUS...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I hear you. This gun will probably be for fun and to sit on the night stand, which points towards six inch.


19 posted on 05/29/2015 8:32:29 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Kickass Conservative

No problem with a six inch for carry, if you do not need to conceal it.


20 posted on 05/29/2015 9:08:52 PM PDT by marktwain
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