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Don't go to war with the President we have
The Virginian ^ | 2/21/2015 | Moneyrunner

Posted on 02/22/2015 1:55:00 PM PST by moneyrunner

There were news reports yesterday that there was going to be an attack by American, Iraqi and Kurdish forces on ISIS in Mosul. The attack is scheduled for a month or two or three from now: April, May or possibly later.

Please don't.

This is a disaster waiting to happen. Forget the reasons given for telegraphing our intentions months ahead of time. They make no logical sense.

What will happen is that the ISIS forces will have months to prepare, to reinforce, to dig in, to booby trap ... in other words to create a killing field. And it will get quite a few Iranians, Kurds and Americans killed.

You can be sure that the hard core of the attack will be American troops, probably Marines.

In small numbers without heavy equipment.

Mosul has a population of over a million civilians. Fighting will be house-to-house.

There will be rules of engagement that will get more of our troops killed .... or prosecuted for war crimes. Take your pick.

Small enough to insure defeat, big enough to create a media meme. Like Tet, which was a military disaster for the North Vietnamese. But transformed by the media into an American military disaster, proof that we were losing.

It can have the effect of destroying American military morale as Viet Nam did.

The Left will say that Conservatives are demanding a forceful military response. Some are. People like John McCain - a Republican but not a conservative - have been demanding all kinds of very forceful military action.

But count me among a growing number of people who are not. "Be careful what you wish for" is wise advice. We knuckle dragging Neanderthals have seen how well Obama has handled Iraq, Iran, Libya, Yemen, and Afghanistan. He reset our relations with Russia so well that Putin is swallowing Ukraine and there is now talk of war in Europe.

His team dithered in a failed attempt to rescue hostages that missed by a few days; perhaps hours. Susan Rice - she who blamed a video for the Benghazi attack - claimed it wasn't Obama's fault. “It can’t happen any faster than that . . . particularly given the complexity of the risk” she claimed. Who are you gonna believe, known liar Susan Rice or the Pentagon spokesman who said it took a week from the time they sent a plan to the White House until the rescue attempt was made.

It should be crystal clear by now that Obama likes to micro-manage the military, even to the point of picking the victims of drone strikes.

“He is determined that he will make these decisions about how far and wide these operations will go,” said Thomas E. Donilon, his national security adviser. “His view is that he’s responsible for the position of the United States in the world.” He added, “He’s determined to keep the tether pretty short.”

This is reminiscent of Lyndon Johnson's management of the war in Viet Nam, where he picked the bombing targets. That did not turn out well. Wars are not won by politicians, especially politicians taking half-measures. Compared to Obama, Johnson was W.T. Sherman who said "war is hell." For Obama, war is icky. The fastest way to end a war is to lose. The president who doesn't "love America" (he may not even like America) could lose us another war.

No thanks. No Mosul attack with Commander in Chief Obama in charge. Let's pretend to do something but never really do it. Let General Obama drone on. Set up Facebook sites calling random terrorists bad names, without naming their religious affiliation.

If Obama starts feeling belligerent, unleash the hash-tags of war. Then pray.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: iraq; obama; war

1 posted on 02/22/2015 1:55:00 PM PST by moneyrunner
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To: moneyrunner

Setting us up to die in the battlefield?


2 posted on 02/22/2015 1:59:27 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: moneyrunner

Obama thought GM was too big to fail but he doesn’t believe that the United States of America is too big to fail. On the contrary!...


3 posted on 02/22/2015 2:08:54 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: moneyrunner

Obojangles is allied with ISIS. He is using them as useful idiots to exterminate Jews and Christians. Then there will be no opposition to his Marxists beliefs.


4 posted on 02/22/2015 2:09:50 PM PST by maddogtiger
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To: moneyrunner

While it occurs to me that they might WANT ISIS to concentrate their combat power for the defense of Mosul (thus rendering them more vulnerable to air power), I too share the writer’s lack of trust in Obama. In fact, I’m actually afraid of giving him any military power.


5 posted on 02/22/2015 2:14:33 PM PST by Vesparado (The American people know what they want and they deserve to get it good and hard --- HL Mencken)
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To: moneyrunner
Islam: It's just another day at the beach.


6 posted on 02/22/2015 2:18:04 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Not good.


7 posted on 02/22/2015 2:19:35 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: moneyrunner

The only logical justification I could see for this release of our “plans” would be if it’s a dodge and if we were really readying forces to go in NOW to wipe out ISIS. Unfortunately, I seriously doubt that that is the case. I suspect that this president will be only too willing to give our enemies without a “heads up” on any war plans we may have now and until 2017.


8 posted on 02/22/2015 2:19:42 PM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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9 posted on 02/22/2015 2:21:19 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: moneyrunner

Mosul pronounced backwards is “Lose`em!”


10 posted on 02/22/2015 2:29:55 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))))
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To: ViLaLuz

Setting us up to die in the battlefield?


I wouldn’t doubt that.

It seems to me that 0bama wants to allow ISIS,ISIL, IS or Daesh or whatever to gain a foothold in order to enter into “peace talks”.

I believe that 0bama wants to bring them into the U.N.’s political fold and thereby giving their cause legitimacy.


11 posted on 02/22/2015 2:34:39 PM PST by Zeneta (Thoughts in time and out of season.)
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12 posted on 02/22/2015 2:43:01 PM PST by RedMDer (Keep Free Republic Alive with YOUR Donations!)
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13 posted on 02/22/2015 2:59:39 PM PST by MtnMan101
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To: moneyrunner

The USA CANNOT go to war with this president. It is a disaster waiting to happen.


14 posted on 02/22/2015 3:10:59 PM PST by Former Proud Canadian (Save Western Civilization. Embrace the new Crusades.)
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To: moneyrunner

The Virginian. Who writes this rag now? The article sounds a recent basic trainee grad wrote it.


15 posted on 02/22/2015 3:26:33 PM PST by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: moneyrunner

I don’t like the idea of any use of our military being made under this administration.


16 posted on 02/22/2015 4:33:07 PM PST by leopardseal
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To: MtnMan101

WILL NOT HAPPEN.


17 posted on 02/22/2015 4:40:07 PM PST by 353FMG
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To: moneyrunner

It’s the pantywaists in the WH who are making the decisions and the one elected to be president is nowhere to be found. Everything is presented to him as a fait accompli and he’s perfectly fine with that. Saves him the trouble of trying to figure out how he got from Chicago to DC. He’s still trying to figure out WHY the voters of this country were really THAT dumb! Let’s just show him HOW to return to Chicago...

I would really like to know who told the know nothings in the WH that they had the experience to make these calls.

Retired Lt. Col. Tony Schaeffer was on FOX last night and he said the roads from Kuwait to Iraq have already been planted with IED’s.... Truthfully, he talked so doggone fast that I had trouble following everything he said but that much I caught. I think he was on Judge Jeanine’s show but wouldn’t swear to it.


18 posted on 02/22/2015 5:13:57 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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To: Travis McGee

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19 posted on 02/22/2015 7:33:34 PM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: moneyrunner

That 0bama is CIC is a nauseating reality.


20 posted on 02/22/2015 7:42:43 PM PST by windsorknot
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