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Wisconsin CCW permit Homicide rate lower than Japan's
Gun Watch ^ | 21 February, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 02/21/2015 4:25:31 PM PST by marktwain



Wisconsin was the next to the last state to enact a concealed carry law.   It passed in 2011.  The law had been thwarted for years by the actions of former Democrat Governor Jim Doyle.  Lawmakers in Wisconsin learned many lessons from the efforts of previous states, and it showed.  Over 59,000 Wisconsin residents had applied by December 30, 2011, and 100,000 permits were issued half way through April of 2012. 144,000 had been issued by the end of the year.

Link to video of Attorney General Van Hollen celebrating the issuance of the 100,000 permits

The average number for 2012 was over 105,000.  The average for 2013 was 175,000, and 223,000 for 2014.   In the first three full years of the permit system, one permit holder has been convicted of an unjustified homicide.  I do not know of any homicide cases that are pending.  One unjustified homicide for a little over 500,000 permit-years calculates to an annual homicide rate of .2 per 100,000 per year.

Yes, the decimal place is correct.  The homicide rate for Wisconsin permit holders for the first three years is below that of Japan, which was listed at .3 for 2011.  This source shows Japan's rate as varying between .57 and .4 over a 14 year period ending in 2009.  International comparisons of homicide rates are notoriously deceptive.  For example, if a man kills his family and himself in Japan, it is counted as a "family suicide", and some killings, such as that of students by teachers, can be considered acceptable in circumstances that would be considered criminal in the United States. 

The Wisconsin homicide rate for all residents was 3.0 in 2012, and 2.8 in 2013.  The 2014 figures are not available yet.   The Wisconsin permit is one of the least restrictive in the nation.  The permits do not require fingerprints or pictures.  They must be issued  within 21 days of the receipt of a properly executed application.  Most applications are processed in less than two days. Many different types of training satisfy the permit requirement, with at least one organization offering training for free to promote civic responsibility and goodwill.   The cost of the application is $40, which was dropped from $50 when it was determined that $40 was sufficient to cover the costs of administration.  The permit is good for a period of five years.

With  the number of concealed carry permit holders committing unjustified homicides so low, expect the rate to bounce around a bit in future years.  One or two cases could make a large difference.   Still, half a million permit years are nothing to sneeze at.   Wisconsin permit holders can be proud of their record.  They are some of the least likely people to commit murder in the world.  The same pattern is repeated, with different numbers, all over the United States.

If I were in business in Wisconsin, I would consider requiring that employees have a concealed carry permit.  In Wisconsin, I would know that their ability to obey the law and follow rules would be far above average.   In addition, Wisconsin grants some immunity from liability to businesses that allow their employees to carry firearms. 

©2015 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.Link to Gun Watch


TOPICS: Education; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; japan; wi; wisconsin

1 posted on 02/21/2015 4:25:31 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
--somehow, I don't expect this to be reprinted above the fold in the Milwaukee J-S----
2 posted on 02/21/2015 5:36:56 PM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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I've lived in Wisconsin my whole 65 years. I guarantee you there are many more guns here than there are people. Both Republicans and Democrats here love guns. But outside of Milwaukee the homicide rate is minuscule.

If the mere prominence of firearms caused people to go around shooting other people willy-nilly, then the homicide rate here would look like that of a war zone. But it's a fraction of the big cities. Why is that? Because we're civilized, that's why.

3 posted on 02/21/2015 6:03:19 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: driftless2

Yes, Milwaukee has 10% of the population and 60% of the homicides. I believe the 1 CCW homicide was from Milwaukee, or at least the metroplex.

Take away the Milwaukee Homicides and Wisconsin’s homicide rate is about 1.24, a low rate for Europe.


4 posted on 02/21/2015 6:09:29 PM PST by marktwain
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I was one of the first Illinois CCLs issued and am closing in on one year. I am anxious to see what kind of statistics we will have. So far it looks good.


5 posted on 02/21/2015 6:10:05 PM PST by CrazyIvan (I lost my phased plasma rifle in a tragic hovercraft accident.)
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To: marktwain

Race has nothing to do with this, eh?


6 posted on 02/21/2015 9:57:33 PM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: blam

European Murder Rates Compared to the United States

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2013/01/european-murder-rates-compared-to.html


7 posted on 02/22/2015 4:57:45 AM PST by marktwain
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"European Murder Rates Compared to the United States"

I've read that if the Black violent crime stats is extracted from our data...we have less crime than anywhere in Europe.

An armed society is a polite society.

8 posted on 02/22/2015 11:20:41 AM PST by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: blam

No, it only puts us in the middle of Euorpean murder rates.

See the link above.


9 posted on 02/22/2015 12:46:45 PM PST by marktwain
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There's a good chance that the combined homicide rate for all CCL in the nation is lower than Japan's homicide rate.
10 posted on 02/23/2015 6:59:58 AM PST by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: 2001convSVT; All

As mentioned in the article, the international comparisons are very misleading because of all the different variables, such as definitions, reporting practices, and cultural norms between societies.

My research indicates that the homicide rate for concealed carry permitees is down amoung the lowest for any countries on the planet. I suspect that it is on a par with that of Switzerland, which is less than 1 per 100,000 per year.


11 posted on 02/23/2015 10:27:58 AM PST by marktwain
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