Posted on 02/07/2015 10:21:02 AM PST by Enza Ferreri
Two days ago's Question Time on BBC1 was one of the worst I've ever seen, beating its own record of mendacious and appalling programmes.
The panellist George Galloway described fascism as a "Christian phenomenon", whereas it's a well-established historical fact that Nazism was neo-pagan, tried to destroy Christianity in Germany and persecuted Christian clergy and churches.
The very symbol of the SS, the SS bolts or Runic "SS" (
), consisted of runes, signs popular in Germanic neopaganism.
Nazism wanted to replace Christianity with a "völkisch" (folkish or racial) cult, a moral doctrine derived from the pre-Christian, pagan Germanic heritage. Cultic ceremonies and rituals were part of the everyday life of the SS.
The Third Reich commissioned studies concerning the beliefs of the pre-Christianised Germanic peoples, which concluded that these pagan ancestors believed in "a grand force or a grand god in the background of the multiplicity of gods and spirits who becomes visible in a multiple way in the universe, on earth and in the life of all beings and facts".
The sun was interpreted as "only one, but a very important and significant expression (of that force or god) in the surrounding events and in the life of the ancestors".
The supreme leader of the SS Heinrich Himmler consulted seers and fortune tellers.
In 1934, the year after the Nazis took power, Himmler signed a 100-year lease to take over Wewelsburg Castle, still existing south of the town of Paderborn in Northern Westphalia, Germany, to turn it into a leadership school for the SS.
Wewelsburg Castle, supposed to be the "Centre of the World" from 1941 on, is a visual testimony to the neo-pagan nature of Nazism.
The castle, the spiritual home of Hitler's SS, where Himmler brought together his senior officers, is awash with pagan symbolism.
The photo above shows the focal point of the Wewelsburg Castle, the circular Hall of the Supreme SS Leaders, in the North Tower. The occult runic symbol of a Black Sun is set into the Hall's marble floor.
Based on a 7th-century AD fertility symbol, the Black Sun (Schwarze Sonne in German) combines the Swastika with the stylised sig-runes associated with the SS. It was the architectural symbol of the North Tower of Wewelsburg Castle's position as the centre of the Nazi world.
The sun wheel is significant for the Germanic light-and-sun mysticism which was propagated by the SS.
A round table was installed in the Hall for the SS "knights" and for pagan ceremonies exalting Himmler's form of paganism above all other world religions.
The people of the village were 98% Catholic and therefore frowned upon the presence of the SS and their pagan rituals in their midst. It seems that the villagers continued to practice their Catholic faith in the church that is only yards from the entrance to the Wewelsburg complex.
Since the fall of the Nazi regime, satanists, attracted by the pagan symbolism, have broken into the crypt in the basement of the North Tower to celebrate black masses.
Going back to Question Time, what particularly appals me is that nobody, not even supposedly Catholic co-panellist Cristina Odone, objected to Galloway's defamation of a whole religion based on an unhistorical myth.
Everyone seemed extremely worried about sparing the sensitivities of both Muslim and Jewish minorities - even to the point that telling the truth was treated respectively as "Islamophobic" or "anti-Semitic" -, but not a soul gave a damn about false accusations and insults casually thrown against Christian Gentiles, who are still the majority in this land, which is founded on Christianity.
Western societies are the only ones in the world which are more concerned about their minorities than their majorities.
This is how a society loses its identity and cohesiveness and descends into chaos followed by downfall.
Add to that the horrified way all the panel looked at Cristina Odone when the semi-conscious (posh for "half-witted") Labour shadow education secretary Tristram Hunt shouted at her while she was talking about her teachers: "They were nuns!". It looked like she had been found out as the culprit in a murder mystery.
I went to a primary school run by nuns and I'm extremely proud of it, as I am of having a Catholic background.
Odone told the Catholic Herald: "Why is it acceptable to denigrate anything Catholic but bleat tolerance about every other religion?"
Why indeed?
Another immature moron who says he collaborates with Nazis because, if you were Christian, you would be a Nazi too.
This is the Germano-Soviet, nay, the Hitlero-Liberal pact.
Hitler, a self-proclaimed pagan, considered the Catholic Church on par with the Jews, as his mortal enemies.
It is documented that Hitler planned for the total obliteration of the Church. For Hitler Jews and Christians were the sources of every evil. “The heaviest blow to humanity” he once said, “was the coming of Christianity.
Bolshevism is Christianity’s illegitimate child. Both are inventions of Jews.” In his diabolical mind, the extermination of the Jews would be needed for victory.
Hitler designed and implemented a plan at Warthegau, in western Poland, to extirpate the Catholic and the Protestant churches from Europe. There is documentation that Count Von Galen, the Roman Catholic Bishop of Munster, who was an outspoken critic of the racial and eugenic policies of the Nazis, if it were not for the prominence and prestige of his position, would have been annihilated
In 1942, Pius XII told Fr. Paolo Dezza, rector of the Gregorian University, “They want to destroy the Church and crush it as a toad…there will be no place for the Pope in the new Europe, they say that I am going to America, I have no fear and I shall remain here.” (16) Among the many ideological fundaments shared by the Nazis and the Communist was the hatred for religion, specially the Catholic Church. The only form of worship allowed was the cult to the leader of the totalitarian state. Hungarian Cardinal Mindszenty went from a Nazi jail to a Communist jail after the war. There was no respite for Catholics after the War; in fact, the persecution of Catholics increased in the Soviet occupied countries.
In occupied Poland, Arthur Greiser was in charge of the annihilation of the Catholic Church…
Arthur Greiser was in charge of the annihilation of the Catholic Church and the creation of a national German Church loyal to the Führer in Warthegau. The final goal was the complete Germanization of that Polish region, to which end Greiser worked without respite. Bishops were driven out, priests killed or imprisoned. Within a few years one third of the pre-war 2,000 priests were dead and 700 imprisoned; seminaries were closed, the Catholic press and voluntary associations suppressed.
The Holy See found itself desperately fighting in two fronts, for the survival of the Jews and for the survival of his own flock. The Church in a beleaguered Poland was being bled to death by the two great scourges of humanity, the Nazis and Communists. In Poland three million Catholics went to their death along with three million Jews at the Nazi’s concentration camps in addition to the millions murdered by the Soviets.
It is documented that, according to Robert M.W. Kempner, former U.S. Deputy Chief of Counsel at the Nuremberg War Crimes Trials, among the measures scheduled to follow upon Hitler’s victory were the following: “every Catholic State must select its own Pope”…(and) “the Bishop of Muenster will go before the firing squad one day.” Every propaganda move by the Catholic Church against Hitler’s Reich would have been not only “provoking suicide”, but would have hastened the execution of still more Jews and Priests. These and similar threats appeared in the
Captain America would kick his ignorant Butt!
It seems quite astounding that no one involved brought up the name of Dietrich Bonhoeffer. His witness powerfully refutes this nonsense. What ignorant participants.
To those seeking the truth, what a better witness than the testimony of Albert Einstein, the great Jewish physicist, who had first hand experience of the horrors of Nazism? In 1944 he said: “Being a lover of freedom, when the Nazi revolution came in Germany, I looked to the universities to defend it, but the universities were immediately silenced. Then I looked to the great editors of newspapers, but they, like the universities were silenced in a few short weeks. Then I looked to individual writers…they too were mute. Only the Church,” Einstein concluded, “stood squarely across the path of Hitler’s campaign for suppressing the truth…I never had any special interest in the Church before, but now I feel great affection and admiration…and am forced thus to confess that what I once despised, I now praise unreservedly.”
"Hitler's Table Talk" (Author), Norman Cameron (Translator), R. H. Stevens (Translator), H. R. Trevor-Roper (Preface, Introduction); Enigma Books; 3rd edition (October 1, 2000).
Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. - Adolf Hitler
Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... - Adolf Hitler
So it’s not opportune to hurl ourselves now into a struggle with the Churches. The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death. - Adolf Hitler
The ideal solution would be to leave the religions to devour themselves, without persecutions. - Adolf Hitler
The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity. - Adolf Hitler
When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let’s be the only people who are immunised against the disease - Adolf Hitler
If you read Hitler’s writings he is definitely not pro-Christian. Sometimes he would use Christian-ese language when talking to certain crowds, but he was really big into German neo-paganism.
If there were to be any “religion” associated with the rise of Nationalist Socialism in Germany, it would go back to the days of the pre-Christian Nordic religions which included Wodan (or Odin) as the chief god. This would appeal to the natures of a bloodthirsty and all-conquering race of supermen, much more than that effete and unassuming Christ figure.
An explicit association of Wodan with the state of fury was made by 11th century German chronicler Adam of Bremen, who, when detailing the religious practices of Scandinavian pagans, described “Wodan, that is, the furious”.
He is likely identical to the Germanic god who was known as “Mercury” by Roman writers and possibly with the god, ruler of all mentioned by Tacitus in his 1st century work, Germania.
Dietrich Bonhoeffer: Faith and redemption in the ‘Garden of Evil’
And:
If you read Obama’s writings he is definitely not pro-Christian. Sometimes he would use Christian-ese language when talking to certain crowds, but he was really big into anti-Christian neo-socialism.
Oh absolutely. He is an Islamic socialist to the core.
Nazism sees Christianity as a threat to the state.
Of course, as numerously stated already, plenty of high ranking Nazis were obsessed with the occult and Neo-paganism.
Stalin was in an Orthodox seminary, nobody brings up him as being a corrupted Orthodox christian, because it’s equally stupid.
“The panellist George Galloway described fascism as a “Christian phenomenon”, whereas it’s a well-established historical fact that Nazism was neo-pagan, tried to destroy Christianity in Germany and persecuted Christian clergy and churches.”
Fascism and Nazism are distinctly different ideologies; as a Catholic I can admit fascism was attractive to Christians as an alternative to communism. Throughout Europe in the 1920s and 30s, fascism was the only protection for Christians against communism, and often attracted monarchists as well as an attempt to maintain some semblance of order in a time of chaos. Christians have no reason to apologize for Franco and Mussolini (and other right-wing governments throughout Europe) at a time when the communist alternative was much worse (and history has vindicated both men in terms of their fear of communism). While the Nazis fought for some obscure neo-pagan “master race” nonsense, other national armies fought against the Soviet Union to fend off the communist assaults in their own backyards; Stalin’s intervention in Spain, and mass killings in Ukraine, were plenty of proof for people at the time (who didn’t have the benefit of Monday-morning quarterbacking) that Bolshevism posed a deadlier threat to them than anything else.
The attraction of fascism must also be viewed in the context of Western powers that refused to 1) confront Bolshevism in any serious manner when it first arose and 2) assist democracies or constitutional monarchies when they were threatened by communist revolutions. When Europe watched the “Western powers” turn a blind eye to their plight, they had to look for an alternative solution.
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I had a twitter debate with a young lady that insisted, regardless of the numerous and varied quotes that contradict it, that Hitler was a devout Catholic.
Hitler’s god was Hitler. God was competition.
Nazis = National Socialists
socialists with fancy uniforms
Hitler rewrote the Bible to remove any positive reference to the Jews and to change the focus of worship towards the state.
Hitler and Himmler dreamed of sharing ruler-ship over a great, vast pagan-new age empire.
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