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Food Politics Is The New Christian Asceticism
Leo McNeil ^ | February 2, 2015 | Leo McNeil

Posted on 02/02/2015 5:08:56 AM PST by LeoMcNeil

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To: miss marmelstein

Of course, this is really about controlling the food supply - a typical ploy of dictators. The right should never buy into it.


BINGO. Yet look at those arguing with me here.


41 posted on 02/02/2015 11:29:08 AM PST by Yaelle (No Cruz? Then "I'm Ready for Hillary; What Difference Does It Make?")
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To: Yaelle
Who tells you what is the most nourishing? I've got a food degree. It's mainly BS. I say that with some experience and lots of training, including government training.

/johnny

42 posted on 02/02/2015 11:32:05 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: sphinx

There’s a baby in your bath water.

One doesn’t need to support greenpeace because one wishes to use the best ingredients to build this body we have for our time on the earth.

You can perform more good religious works for longer if you eat as cleanly as you can. If you understand the biology behind what exactly your body needs and even what helps it heal and thrive, and aim for that as fuel. It isn’t any sort of worship. It’s just respect, like other symbols of religion are respected. Our living bodies deserve as much respect as we give our dead ones.


43 posted on 02/02/2015 11:32:14 AM PST by Yaelle (No Cruz? Then "I'm Ready for Hillary; What Difference Does It Make?")
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To: sphinx

Also, I disagree with you that genetically adding pesticide resistance to foods is healthy for animals. Be careful what studies you read — many are not run by independents.


44 posted on 02/02/2015 11:34:39 AM PST by Yaelle (No Cruz? Then "I'm Ready for Hillary; What Difference Does It Make?")
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To: LeoMcNeil

I agree with you. Christians or anyone should be able to choose their own food. I hope that they inform themselves about nutrition and what they eat, just to respect their bodies while they are in this life. But that is up to them.


45 posted on 02/02/2015 11:35:50 AM PST by Yaelle (No Cruz? Then "I'm Ready for Hillary; What Difference Does It Make?")
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yeah, it is getting harder and harder to learn what will nourish us, make us thrive. And most of what is taught in degree nutrition programs is outdated and wrong. A lot of people are having to do N=1 experiments on themselves, using their own bloodwork as their findings, or their own well being or pain levels.

One of the most wrench-throwing discoveries in what we need inside us is the DNA testing of the gut biome. It seems that a lot of what we need to eat is to nourish THEM so that they might in turn keep US humming along.

Fascinating.


46 posted on 02/02/2015 11:43:17 AM PST by Yaelle (No Cruz? Then "I'm Ready for Hillary; What Difference Does It Make?")
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To: Yaelle
By using the word “nutritious” you lose me. Food should first be delicious and nutritious, second. Food is not medicine - that's an extremely American point of view and one of the reasons we have so many wacky problems with neurotic food disorders and obesity. You'll never hear a Frenchman or Italian talk about nutrition and yet they have great cuisines.
47 posted on 02/02/2015 11:44:43 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: LeoMcNeil

I agree with you although I would characterize it as puritanism.


48 posted on 02/02/2015 11:47:13 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: Yaelle
That's why I throw some bioactive stuff like yoghurt and kimchi in the mix.

I will never know enough, and cannot do what God does. That's why I rely on the senses He gave me.

You can bet there isn't any light or diet anywhere in my food. Just lots of basic ingredients (not out of boxes) and lots of manual labor, cooking or fermenting or whatever.

I am not a better person because 'I care' or try to stay informed. That's why I call it food fetishism, because that seems to be the point for many.

/johnny

49 posted on 02/02/2015 11:49:47 AM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: LeoMcNeil

No, it is not asceticism.

Ascesis involves willingly giving up a good, not condemning another’s enjoyment of a good, as the monk or nun gives up marriage to following what St. Paul commends as a superior way, but does not condemn marriage (there are numerous ancient canons against despising marriage, in fact forbidding the taking of monastic vows if the motivation is avoidance of marriage, rather than the pursuit of holiness. Or as Orthodox Christians on (most) Wednesdays and Fridays, and during Great Lent and the other canonical fast, give up rich foods (there is a canonical list) which we otherwise enjoy, particularly during celebratory periods following Christmas and Pascha. Or even giving up the good of fasting this present week as an ascetic exercise to remind ourselves to imitate the humility of the Publican, rather than the pride of the Pharisee (yesterday’s Gospel, always read on the first of the four Sundays before the start of Great Lent.


50 posted on 02/02/2015 1:50:14 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Well, looks like we totally agree. Dang. ;)


51 posted on 02/02/2015 6:13:47 PM PST by Yaelle (No Cruz? Then "I'm Ready for Hillary; What Difference Does It Make?")
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To: Yaelle
Hang around, I've POed most everyone around here at one point or another. ;)

/johnny

52 posted on 02/02/2015 6:16:28 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: miss marmelstein

We disagree. Food should be a positive addition to our lives and body. And It IS delicious, most of it, and strangely, sometimes things that are bitter like some greens, we crave because we need those nutrients.

Now, I admit, we are on a Christian thread, and I don’t know the theology of diet in Christianity. But in Judaism we do place a priority over the conditions surrounding our bodily pleasures, and then proceed to thoroughly enjoy them. (I know both our religions do that for sex - has to be married, etc - we do this for food as well. Kashrut and also to promote health. And we love food too.)


53 posted on 02/02/2015 6:17:55 PM PST by Yaelle (No Cruz? Then "I'm Ready for Hillary; What Difference Does It Make?")
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To: LeoMcNeil

Another column from left field??


54 posted on 02/02/2015 6:18:59 PM PST by GeronL
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To: LeoMcNeil

These people should try telling Asia what not to eat. lol


55 posted on 02/02/2015 6:20:05 PM PST by GeronL
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To: Yaelle

wheat germ and tofu shaped into fake meat is real food?


56 posted on 02/02/2015 6:21:10 PM PST by GeronL
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To: LeoMcNeil; onyx; SoConPubbie; 2ndDivisionVet; Jim Robinson
I stand by my statement, Cruz has no executive government experience.

And I stand by my statement that you are using F.R.'s Bandwidth to push your own ends while actively working against our people.

What about this huh?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3253397/posts?page=1

BTW, Sarah Palin has executive experience and you sure as hell don't support her.

57 posted on 02/02/2015 6:51:30 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: LeoMcNeil; KC_Lion; onyx; SoConPubbie; Jim Robinson

Solicitor General of Texas, the director of the Office of Policy Planning at the Federal Trade Commission, Associate Deputy Attorney General at the United States Department of Justice and etc.


58 posted on 02/02/2015 7:15:53 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Yaelle

Christianity, like Judaism, has a proscription against gluttony. Neither religion says that yoghurt is better than GMO corn flakes.


59 posted on 02/03/2015 4:09:06 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: Loyalty Binds Me)
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To: miss marmelstein

If you would call it Puritanism then you don’t know what a Puritan is. Never forget it was the Puritan’s who were considered the wild Christians of the early colonial era. The Quakers considered them decadent sinners because the women wore colorful clothing.


60 posted on 02/03/2015 4:10:05 AM PST by LeoMcNeil
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