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“It’s not Islam!” they say—but it is
Canada Free Press ^ | 01/19/15 | Barry Shaw

Posted on 01/19/2015 9:25:44 AM PST by Sean_Anthony

When they tell you it's not Islam you know they have lost their political compass. They are losing their countries out of sheer willful blindness and their inability to face the truth and deal with it.

French President Hollande said the murderous Paris terror attacks were “an insult to Islam.”

His Prime Minister, Manuel Valls, said, “We are at war with terrorism and radical Islam.” Days later he said France was at war with “terrorism, jihadism and radicalism.” Then, in the same speech he said, “France is not at war against Islam and Muslims,” before announcing a series of measures that will “draw on the lessons” from last week’s attacks.

How can you draw on the lessons if you’re confused and cannot define what you’re fighting?

And don’t look for clarity and guidance from the White House. President Obama has been in denial from day one. Not only was he absent from the Parisian boulevard parade of world leaders he has been MIA on Islamic terror since he took office. The best he came up with over the French terrorist attacks was to pledge to stand with his allies against the “scourge” of terrorism. Well good for him for his vacuous words. What scourge would that be, Mr. President?

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: islam; paris; terror; violence

1 posted on 01/19/2015 9:25:44 AM PST by Sean_Anthony
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To: Sean_Anthony
You can call George W. Bush a "monkey" all day long. But you can't call the one president who actually looks like a a monkey, a monkey. You can make movies about assassinating George W. Bush, but you cannot make one about about assassinating Barack Hussein Obama.

These facts illustrate that there is a force that is telling people what to think, and demonizing its detractors.

Quite a concept, isn't it?

2 posted on 01/19/2015 9:30:39 AM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: Sean_Anthony

Sounds like double-think to me.


3 posted on 01/19/2015 9:32:47 AM PST by Rapscallion (Obama intends to destroy America.)
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To: Sean_Anthony

“We are at war with terrorism and radical Islam.”

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Isn’t that exactly what every talking head on TV and/or every congress critter is saying?

Even the likes of Col. Oliver North, Col. West, Judge Janine and military contributors on FOX News are repeating that over and over again.


4 posted on 01/19/2015 9:36:38 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: 9thLife

Islam: The Awful Truth
By Justin O. Smith
American Thinker
October 4, 2014

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3211166/posts

Islam is violent and repressive, and its sacred texts are the heart of darkness at the center of the Islamic State’s inspiration and motivation, despite Barack Obama’s assertions in September 10th’s address to the nation that the Islamic State “is not Islamic” and that “no religion condones the killing of innocents.” Violence is an integral part of Islamic doctrine, following the example set by its Prophet Mohammed, and in the name of Islam and Allah, Muslims have been murdering innocents, since 656 AD.

Six hundred years after Mohammed, one of Islam’s most respected scholars, Ibn Khuldan wrote ‘Muqaddimah’ (Introduction to History), which explained: “In the Muslim community, the holy war is religious duty, because of the universalism of the Muslim mission and [the obligation to] convert everybody to Islam either by persuasion or force.”

Like most good Muslims, Khaldun’s inspiration came from ‘The Verse of the Sword’, Sura 9:5, “revealed” towards the end of Mohammed’s life, as well as similar themes previous to Sura 9:

Sura 9:5__ “...kill the Mushrikun (unbelievers) wherever you find them ... But if they repent and perform As-Salat/ Iqamat-as-Salat [the Islamic ritual prayers], then leave their way free...” Also Sura 9:33__ “It is He [Allah] Who has sent His Messenger [Mohammed] with guidance and the religion of truth [Islam], to make it superior over all religions...”

The Hindu Kush, seventy-five thousand square miles between Afghanistan and Pakistan, was populated by Hindus until approximately 1000 AD and the Muslim invasions. An estimated 60 million Hindus were murdered by Muslims over a thousand year reign, and Hindu Kush is the Muslim name for the region. It means “Hindu Killer.”

Now today, the majority of the Muslim community worldwide, including the U.S., does not completely frown on their “holy warriors” in the Islamic State, Al Qaeda, Jaamat e-Islami and any other terror group one cares to mention, for fear of being called heretics or apostates themselves. The murderous “holy warriors” are following a literal interpretation of Koranic scripture, without omissions, innovation or revision. By contrast, heretical views deviate from doctrine.
The 2013 PEW Poll of the Muslim World shows that the majority of Muslims, in several countries, support the death penalty for Muslims who leave Islam, including Malaysia (58%), Egypt (88%), Jordan (83%), Afghanistan (79%), Gaza and the West Bank (62%) and Pakistan (75%); in 2006, a poll for ‘The Sunday Telegraph’ found 40% of British Muslims wanted Sharia Law in the UK and 20% supported the 7/7 bombers. And alarmingly, in 2011 nineteen percent of American Muslims stated they viewed Al Qaeda favorably, while a new poll shows 16% of the French population view the Islamic State favorably.
Are you beginning to see a pattern here?
Logical minded Americans were not fooled by the big lie Obama delivered before the United Nations on September 24th, when he spoke of Islam’s “great tradition that stands for ... the dignity of life, not murder.” Americans see a significant number of Muslims still support Sharia Law, slavery, rape and Islamic inspired violence and murder in this 21st century, and rather than “a religion of peace,” Islam always has been and always will be an ideology of violence and conquest.
Don’t get me wrong. I am thankful for the many Muslims who simply adhere to the first early peaceful verses of the Koran, but let’s not allow that to dissuade us from seeing and revealing the fact that Islam was propagated through violence, staying with Mohammed’s teachings, and it is still utilizing violence today. This can clearly be seen by examining the teachings of Islam, the daily news reports and practically any good, scholarly history book.
One problem in Islamic tradition, affirmed by many scholars, is the doctrine of abrogation, which states that later revelation to Mohammed supersedes prior revelation. And the Koranic verses ordering Muslims to fight and slay infidels, Christians and Jews came after those admonishing Muslims to live with non-believers in peace and without religious compulsion.
As Obama spoke before the UN, he called on the Islamic nations and their leaders to address the spread of “extremism,” full well knowing that he was speaking to the very advocates of Wahabbist fundamentalism, other Islamic orthodoxies and proponents of inflexible, intolerant Islamic scholars, the likes of Sayyid Qutb. Saudi Arabia and Qatar, for example, have supported terrorism and financed the spread of Wahabbism and Qutb’s Islamic philosophy globally, including in America, for decades.

Now today, the majority of the Muslim community worldwide, including the U.S., does not completely frown on their “holy warriors” in the Islamic State, Al Qaeda, Jaamat e-Islami and any other terror group one cares to mention, for fear of being called heretics or apostates themselves. The murderous “holy warriors” are following a literal interpretation of Koranic scripture, without omissions, innovation or revision. By contrast, heretical views deviate from doctrine.

The 2013 PEW Poll of the Muslim World shows that the majority of Muslims, in several countries, support the death penalty for Muslims who leave Islam, including Malaysia (58%), Egypt (88%), Jordan (83%), Afghanistan (79%), Gaza and the West Bank (62%) and Pakistan (75%); in 2006, a poll for ‘The Sunday Telegraph’ found 40% of British Muslims wanted Sharia Law in the UK and 20% supported the 7/7 bombers. And alarmingly, in 2011 nineteen percent of American Muslims stated they viewed Al Qaeda favorably, while a new poll shows 16% of the French population view the Islamic State favorably.

Are you beginning to see a pattern here?

Logical minded Americans were not fooled by the big lie Obama delivered before the United Nations on September 24th, when he spoke of Islam’s “great tradition that stands for ... the dignity of life, not murder.” Americans see a significant number of Muslims still support Sharia Law, slavery, rape and Islamic inspired violence and murder in this 21st century, and rather than “a religion of peace,” Islam always has been and always will be an ideology of violence and conquest.

Don’t get me wrong. I am thankful for the many Muslims who simply adhere to the first early peaceful verses of the Koran, but let’s not allow that to dissuade us from seeing and revealing the fact that Islam was propagated through violence, staying with Mohammed’s teachings, and it is still utilizing violence today. This can clearly be seen by examining the teachings of Islam, the daily news reports and practically any good, scholarly history book.
One problem in Islamic tradition, affirmed by many scholars, is the doctrine of abrogation, which states that later revelation to Mohammed supersedes prior revelation. And the Koranic verses ordering Muslims to fight and slay infidels, Christians and Jews came after those admonishing Muslims to live with non-believers in peace and without religious compulsion.

As Obama spoke before the UN, he called on the Islamic nations and their leaders to address the spread of “extremism,” full well knowing that he was speaking to the very advocates of Wahabbist fundamentalism, other Islamic orthodoxies and proponents of inflexible, intolerant Islamic scholars, the likes of Sayyid Qutb. Saudi Arabia and Qatar, for example, have supported terrorism and financed the spread of Wahabbism and Qutb’s Islamic philosophy globally, including in America, for decades.


5 posted on 01/19/2015 9:37:20 AM PST by Dqban22 (Hpo<p> http://i.imgur.com/26RbAPxjpg)
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To: Dqban22

bump


6 posted on 01/19/2015 9:42:06 AM PST by 9thLife ("Life is a military endeavor..." -- Pope Francis)
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To: Sean_Anthony

Western leaders have surrounded themselves with advisers and PR people who whisper multicultural sweetness in their ears. They are more afraid of being identified as intolerant bigots than they are of Islam.


7 posted on 01/19/2015 9:43:27 AM PST by pallis (I like white people)
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To: Dqban22

The ONLY way to win this war is to destroy the religion.

The strength they draw is from the absolute belief in the superiority of their phony or real entity they call Allah. Allah protects their mosques, the movement and their leaders. If a leader dies, it was as a martyr, and Allah decided he was to be rewarded in the afterlife.

Treat mosques like they treat Churches and Synagogues. Bomb them, burn them give them the full Dresden treatment.

How could we have possibly won WW 2 if we purposely did not make people ashamed of the symbol of the “crooked cross” and the very idea of a master race?

First off, Islam should be declared a cult not a religion and the meeting centers in the US and the West must be closed and destroyed.

Second of all, anyone that professes the “faith” should be disallowed to hold any position in the government or military.

Thirdly, any and all people in the US and the West should be deported to ISIS that are not currently citizens.

ALL students, tourists and ambassadors should be sent home forthwith.

I know this will not happen, just like I know we will lose the war if we don’t follow some or all of my suggestions.

This is truly a war for our very survival, and to treat it like a problem best to be handled with negotiations is the biggest mistake we can make.

The case should be made to all citizens that if we lose, and we can lose, your daughters and wives will be raped. Our young men will die by the dull knife to the neck, and homosexuals will face the death penalty.....with rocks. Someone needs to sell this before we actually are destroyed. It can and will happen if we do not take this seriously.


8 posted on 01/19/2015 9:59:06 AM PST by Glad2bnuts
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To: Dqban22
As I pointed out when Obama made the remark, at some formal level his assertion, “no religion condones the killing of innocents," is true (at least since the cult of Moloch died out and the indigenous religions of Mesoamerica were suppressed). The problem is that Islam has a defective notion of innocence in which all non-Muslims, and Muslims adhering to a different confessional strain of Islam are prima facia not innocents, and can (and more often than not in Muslim eyes should) be killed.
9 posted on 01/19/2015 10:34:09 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Sean_Anthony
“France is not at war against Islam and Muslims,”

But Islam and Muslims are at war with France,
and with everyone else.

10 posted on 01/19/2015 10:55:11 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Sean_Anthony
As the Tripolitan consul explained to Thomas Jefferson in 1785 in Paris, Tripoli is at wăr with the United States even if the United States was not at war with Tripoli and that condition could only be amended by paying periodic tribute money and giving war materiel to Tripoli by treaty.
11 posted on 01/19/2015 10:57:56 AM PST by arthurus
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To: Dqban22
Tea with Terrorists why Craig Winn really expanded my knowledge of true Islam. I knew Mohammed was a beast before, but I didn't realize what a terrible theologian he was. Lot of Muslim hatred from Jews stems from the ridicule Mohammed received from the regions’ Jews over his clumsy new religion.
12 posted on 01/19/2015 11:00:58 AM PST by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Sean_Anthony; All

It’s interesting the way socialists approach theological concepts but when it comes to Islam they are not the only ones who refuse to approach the issue. That even includes leading Christian clergy including Pope Francis.

Followers of Mohammed not only claim, but truly believe that God has authorized them to kill those who refuse to submit to their version of God’s will. That is a basic tenet of that religion. A claim which goes unchallanged. While it’s understandable for atheists which most socialists are, not to approach that claim on a theological basis. It’s bewildering why any Christian clergy refuse to admit it even exists and is a basic part of Islam creed and worse yet are unable to condem it.

The Koran and its enforcement of sharia law is a pseudo religious concoction using monotheistic selected texts taken and misconstrued from the new and old testaments. Both of which cite the Almighty has granted free will to accept or obey his laws and is the final judge not man. Sodom and Gahmora is a glaring example.

Yet followers of Mohammed under the severest of penalties are forbidden to read either which would refute that assertion in a creed which institutionalizes disgusting arab tribal views, observances,and customs. Claiming adhearants are authorized by our Creator to demand submission to it or suffer an ignominious death administered by followers of Islam.

http://www.theusmat.com/islamandfreewill.htm


13 posted on 01/19/2015 4:12:52 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Some of my best rebuttals are in FR's along with meaningless venting no one reads.)
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