As long as one of the oligarchs wins, that’s all that matters.
We MUST FIGHT in the Primary!!!
Rally around CRUZ and be VERY VOCAL about boycotting any Bush nomination...(or Romney or Christie)
I am a Ted Cruz supporter. I think, though, that Jeb Bush would not lose the social conservatives as did Romney in 2008. He would lose a new and different branch of conservatism...not defense, not fiscal, not social. I think of them as the 'immigration security conservatives'. They are fed up with illegals taking jobs, taking welfare, lowering wages, and utilizing free health and food programs. They believe this open border nonsense is insecure: it gives opportunity for enemies, disease, and freeloaders to injure our great nation.
How large is this group? It gave the GOP their victory this fall. It includes social, defense, and fiscal conservatives, so it is probably larger than any one of those groups.
Jeb Bush will announce against open borders, amnesty, and illegals or he will lose in the general election: same as Dole, McCain, and Romney.
No, but he can prevent a Conservative from winning the White House.
Not now, not ever.
RINOmney? Not now, not ever.
Any RINO? Not now, not ever.
So, let’s get some conservatives out there and back ‘em.
Jeb Bush is Karl Rove with hair. The plutocracy must be preserved.
Like it or not, Jeb Bush is going to be the R candidate, because that is who the MONEY PEOPLE want to run.
Frankly, there is no one else with the high profile required. It sucks, but that is how it is, folks.
I could get a surprise, but I doubt it, at this point. Mike Pence would be an option, but he likely couldn’t put together the money Bush could.
Cruz has already been marginalized by the media with the low-info’s as a “nutter”, and so has every other currently-celebrated “Conservative”.
The “Elizabeth Warren will be the Third Black President!” stuff to begin.
Keep in mind that the Holy Grail of the GOPe is to play center-right in a way that draws in more independent and center-left votes than it loses Conservative ones.
The problem with this is that the last several elections have been driven by base turnout. See (as Ive said before) the Breitbart article on Romney’s Orca failure and the PJ Media article on the success of the Dem’s “Catalist”.
My concern is that the political mechanics in the GOP (which I would distinguish from the GOPe) have taken away the wrong lessons and think that a great technical solution (which it looks like the RNC may have had this year) to GOTV doesn’t still require good cultivation of the Base.
I will support Jeb the exact same amount he supported Terri Schiavo.
I do not like third party conservative parties that drive away votes from the GOP ad elect Democrats .But,in this case a threat of such would be very good politics. Whether we actually do is another think but we should be able to stop this nomination if enough people make the pledge to support a third party.
Which is exactly why the media is pushing him. He can't win if nominated, because there is literally nothing like the "Bush" name that will invigorate and motivate the Democrat base. Face it, the Repub's won the mid-terms because they turned out and Dems didn't. The left HATES the Bushes - all of them. The media HATES the Bushes - all of them. They will beat that drum, and beat that drum, and it will motivate and get out the vote.
The other part of the equation will be the media's blind promotion of Hillary. This whole Elizabeth Warren nonsense is just that. She's only there now as a stalking horse, to draw the attention and fire of the right and the "moderate". The ideal is to make Hillary a moderate centrist by comparison - not that Warren has any realistic chance of obtaining the nomination or winning. To pull this off, the Clinton operatives are working to create "bookends" to the left and right of Hillary, so she's the just-right Goldilocks candidate.
I’m a convert. I will no longer vote for moderate republicans. If the candidate is not conservative (truly) I will now vote for the democrat.
I resisted in the past and even admonished some for taking this attitude. I am now on board. And I sent Senator Coats a letter stating the same. His office has called me twice to better understand my concerns. I splained it to them.
We either need to turn things around soon or run it aground ASAP. Half the “conservatives” we have elected have turned on us, even the ones we were excited about. I am changing my party affiliation too. Independent doesn’t sound so bad.
It’s like a horror movie.
Jeb Bush was meeting with John McCain to get tips on how to run a winning Presidential campaign.
If jeb Bush is the nominee, I’ll be voting for his opponent.
Nevertheless, that appears to be Jeb Bush’s goal. He’s announcing his candidacy early in order to raise money and convince Mitt Romney and Chris Christie not to run. If he can convince them not to run, all he needs is 39% support and a boatload of money to win the nomination.
Other sources have Romney winning 52% of the primary vote. It's not always easy to specify just who is a Republican and who is part of the Republican base. You may be assuming that the Republican base is comprised of people who didn't vote for Romney in the primaries and that everybody who voted against Romney was for "anybody but Romney." One can be skeptical about both of those assumptions.
Around four million conservative Republicans didn’t show up on election day in 2012, costing Mitt Romney the election.
So said the early reports, but I think that number was revised downward. What hurt Romney more in the states where the election was decided was the rich guy factor and his attitude toward the auto bailout, more than general ideological hostility towards him.
Bush will have trouble if he runs because people don't respond well to the Bush name nowadays, because he's not a very inspiring candidate and has little charisma, because he's yesterday's news, and because there isn't enough daylight between him and Hillary for voters to really care.
But the way to deny him the nomination isn't to back a lot of little candidates each claiming to be the most conservative. It's to find somebody who has a broad appeal that goes beyond the narrowest possible definition of the party base. The problem with that is that any such candidate would be accused of not being conservative enough. It's a vicious circle.
Jeb Bush doesn’t have anything to offer that the other Bushes didn’t offer. From Jeb we can expect big immigration reform, more illegals and more amnesty. That is what we know for certain. With that we will get more welfarism, more public housing, more federal control of schools and education, more gun control, more taxes, more wars, bigger government with more debt. Oh joy!
If we can’t have Ted Cruz, can we please get someone who places the interests of America and American citizens first.
He will not win it with my vote.
Jeb Bush is corrupt.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2014/12/it_sure_looks_like_jeb_bush_isnt_running_for_president.html
Offshore accounts with at least $127 million with Chinese money and others. No one raises this kind of money in 2 years. Their hoping he wins and they own a president just like Soros and his friends do with obama.