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NY:How New York Confiscates Guns
Gun Watch ^ | 5 December, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/07/2014 3:18:51 PM PST by marktwain



Under the "Safe Act" New York State can confiscate guns without any notice or appeal process, according to this article.  From wwnytv.com:

They then file a report, which in Jefferson County is sent to county Community Services.

"We review it, confirm that the license is indeed appropriate and that the case meets the criteria of the SAFE Act," said Director of Jefferson County Community Services Roger Ambrose.

Once they've verified the report, it's sent to Albany.

From there, State Police find out if the person identified has a gun permit.

If he or she does, police present their findings to the local county court judge.

The judge decides whether or not to suspend or revoke the permit and has local law enforcement confiscate the guns.


What important thing that is left out of this bureaucratic process?  The victim of it all.  Pure bureaucratic fiat.  Where is the chance for the citizen to contest facts or file an appeal?  Suddenly, without warning, police show up at his residence demanding that he turn over his guns and his Constitutional rights.

The State decided that he or she should no longer posses guns.  They knew who to target because of gun registration, but the victim of the process never had a chance to contest what might be a frivolous statement, one taken out of context, or one maliciously filed for personal or political reasons. 

The police just show up, and demand that you turn over your guns and constitutional rights.  No hearing, no notice, no due process.

New York is living up to its title of "The Empire State".

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; confiscation; newyork; registration
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This is *still* not totalitarian enough for those who claim to have a monopoly on "common sense". Nothing ever is.
1 posted on 12/07/2014 3:18:51 PM PST by marktwain
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The judge decides whether or not to suspend or revoke the permit and has local law enforcement confiscate the guns.

So the permit doesn't actually permit you to have a gun? Sounds like it just tells the cops where to look.

2 posted on 12/07/2014 3:24:37 PM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: marktwain

Bump


3 posted on 12/07/2014 3:26:15 PM PST by Jet Jaguar (Resist in place.)
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To: marktwain

I wonder how many unfortunate boating accidents have happened?


4 posted on 12/07/2014 3:26:37 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: marktwain

The interesting effect of this is that there is NO WAY my kids will move from Texas to states like New York, NO WAY. The people there may have to live under those draconian laws, but people with a CHOICE as to whether to move there do not.

My kids are not idiots and do really well. I cannot see these policies doing anything but hurting them economically.


5 posted on 12/07/2014 3:27:33 PM PST by BobL (I'm so old, I can remember when most hate crimes were committed by whites - Thomas Sowell, 2014)
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To: marktwain

Our local cops and sheriff will not allow this
nor will the people of New York here who are ARMED AND DANGEROUS IF THEY TRY THIS F`in COMMIE CRAP ANYTIME ANYWHERE NOHOW!!!!


6 posted on 12/07/2014 3:32:18 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (`("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))
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To: BobL

When only freeloaders live in new york, who will pay taxes?


7 posted on 12/07/2014 3:34:23 PM PST by MtnClimber (Take a look at my FR home page for Colorado outdoor photos!)
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To: SkyDancer

“The police just show up, and demand that you turn over your guns and constitutional rights.
No hearing for them cops,
no notice for them cops,
no due process for them cops neither.
All`s fair in love and WAR.


8 posted on 12/07/2014 3:34:53 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (`("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))
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To: marktwain

Bloomberg leaves a scent of skunk in New York.


9 posted on 12/07/2014 4:00:29 PM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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To: Straight Vermonter

from foxnews:
“The Syracuse Post-Standard reported last week that since the law’s enactment, the state has collected 38,718 names in a database of individuals who have been found at-risk for owning guns by psychiatrists and other health professionals.

The paper said when the database was checked against a list of pistol permit holders in the state, there were 278 matches, less than 1 percent.”

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/07/new-york-safe-act-flags-278-gun-owners-as-mentally-unstable/?intcmp=latestnews

These NY State moron SAFEACTERS forget that we`uns up in here mountains dun have weapons of all kinds since 1930`s to 1940 to ``1960`s `Nam UNREGISTERED in the millions of unregistered weapons. These people are idiots. Don`t they realize that we outgun them and they are PROVOKING A WAR???

Rattlersnakes bite. Don`t Tread on US!!


10 posted on 12/07/2014 4:02:18 PM PST by bunkerhill7 (`("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione."))
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To: rockinqsranch

This is not Bloomberg. This is Cuomo. Cuomo would not have rammed this crap law through without complicity from the pseudo-republicans in New York like Dean Skelos.


11 posted on 12/07/2014 4:13:17 PM PST by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: bunkerhill7

“Didn’t you get the notice I lost all my guns in a boating accident? No? Gee. Well I don’t have them”


12 posted on 12/07/2014 4:13:23 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: rockinqsranch

Cuomo continued, “Confiscation could be an option. Mandatory sale to the state could be an option. Permitting could be an option — keep your gun but permit it.”


13 posted on 12/07/2014 4:13:29 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Is there an attorney who can say what the likelihood is that such a “hearing” would be considered an “ex parte” hearing?

Does Neu Yuk Stadt have the authority to hold such a hearing absent immediate, credible, risk sufficient to overcome the barriers once considered to have been found in the Constitution?


14 posted on 12/07/2014 4:17:33 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Same tactics when the military did not want us to ride motorcycles. Doing the never ending paper work packet for proper authorization invited scrutiny, harassment and additional bad points for promotion. Those who rode outside of it with their own insurance never had problems.

When the State fixes prices and conditions for private life, blackmailing, a war is declared.


15 posted on 12/07/2014 4:20:47 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Is there an attorney who can say what the likelihood is that such a “hearing” would be considered an “ex parte” hearing?

Does Neu Yuk Stadt have the authority to hold such a hearing absent immediate, credible, risk sufficient to overcome the barriers once considered to have been found in the Constitution?


16 posted on 12/07/2014 4:20:59 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est. Because of what Islam is - and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

It is like registering gun owners as if they had ebola or were peophiles.

There was an article of a gun d;ealer helping the ATF track illegal purchases and he was disgusted in that they treated him with worse contempt than the DEA would a drug dealer informant. He was a criminal intheir eyes.

I bet the cops in NYC look at the compliant citizens with similar contempt


17 posted on 12/07/2014 4:25:29 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: GladesGuru

The catch is probably that the more you fight it the more they look at you like you are a nut.


18 posted on 12/07/2014 4:26:54 PM PST by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: marktwain

I find this interesting...

As some groups in the U.S. have lost confidence in the police, the rest of the population is IMHO, not far behind.

Most of the protesters regarding police over-reach have actually been white, and that segment is growing every day.

If 10% of the citizens wouldn’t accept it, and it would probably be many times that, that could be 30 million altercation. Many of them wouldn’t end well... It would be an impossible task for the government to confiscate guns.

Many of the gun owners are older and fought in our countries’ wars. Just saying...

Of course, I don’t have any guns.


19 posted on 12/07/2014 4:29:51 PM PST by babygene
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

OK, You are there. I’m not LOL. I’ll take your word for it. From what I have read I was under the impression Bloomberg started it, and Cuomo finalized it.


20 posted on 12/07/2014 5:13:34 PM PST by rockinqsranch ((Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.))
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