Posted on 09/24/2014 11:05:33 AM PDT by John Semmens
The suggestion that Americans leaving the country to join ISIS ought to forfeit their passports was rejected by Iowa Democratic Congressional candidate Staci Appel during her televised debate with her GOP opponent David Young.
“The right to travel is fundamental to what it means to be an American,” Appel maintained. “A person shouldn’t have to worry that someone else will judge the reasons for his travel as illegitimate. What if the American tries to join ISIS but is rejected for some reason? Shouldn’t he still have a home country to return to? What if he fights for ISIS for a while and needs to come back for some R&R or to visit with family? What if he tires of slaying unbelievers and wants to leave ISIS? Do we really want to bar the door to his return?”
Young added his own questions to Appel’s litany. “What if ISIS sends this American back to the United States on a mission of mayhem? Might not guarding against this possibility be a good reason to throw up a roadblock against it by revoking the passports of those known to have left the US in order to join ISIS?”
if you missed any of this week's other semi-news/semi-satire posts you can find them at...
http://azconservative.org/2014/09/19/dem-operative-says-obama-planning-october-surprise/
R.I.P. Herve Gourdel, the latest innocent beheaded today.
He was a French citizen and was tragically killed earlier. :-(
Uhmmm, really?
They should forfeit their membership card to humanity...
Nice one, John...and I hate how closely your satire mirrors reality.
Punk.../s
He was French.
Don’t care...
/S
I don’t know what all the fuss is about. Seems like if they come back in through the sudden border, passports are just a formality.
...and needs to come back for some R&R...
;-)
In all seriousness, I think we should encourage them to return...
and then hang them.
I can see the commercial now. “You’re an American jihadi who’s spent the last 6 months with ISIS killing infidels. What do you want to do now?”
“I want to go to Disneyland!!”
Huhhh..??
So-called Americans fighting for Isis should lose more than their passports...Let’s discuss their lives....
NO passports and NO citizenship. We don’t want them back:
Causes of Citizenship Loss
U.S. citizens are subject to loss of citizenship if they perform certain acts voluntarily and with the intention to relinquish U.S. citizenship. These acts include:
1.Obtaining naturalization in a foreign state;
2.Taking an oath, affirmation or other formal declaration to a foreign state or its political subdivisions;
3.Entering or serving in the armed forces of a foreign state engaged in hostilities against the U.S. or serving as a commissioned or non-commissioned officer in the armed forces of a foreign state;
4.Accepting employment with a foreign government if (a) one has the nationality of that foreign state or (b) a declaration of allegiance is required in accepting the position;
5.Formally renouncing U.S. citizenship before a U.S. consular officer outside the United States;
6.Formally renouncing U.S. citizenship within the U.S. (but only “in time of war”);
7.Conviction for an act of treason.
Persons Who Wish to Relinquish U.S. Citizenship
If the answer to the question regarding intent to relinquish citizenship is yes, the person concerned will be asked to complete a questionnaire to ascertain his or her intent toward U.S. citizenship. When the questionnaire is completed and the voluntary relinquishment statement is signed by the expatriate, the consular officer will proceed to prepare a certificate of loss of nationality. The certificate will be forwarded to the Department of State for consideration and, if appropriate, approval.
An individual who has performed any of the acts made potentially expatriating by statute who wishes to lose U.S. citizenship may do so by affirming in writing to a U.S. consular officer that the act was performed with an intent to relinquish U.S. citizenship. Of course, a person always has the option of seeking to formally renounce U.S. citizenship in accordance with Section 349 (a) (5) of the Immigration Nationality Act.
Disposition of Cases when Administrative Premise Is Inapplicable
The premise that a person intends to retain U.S. citizenship is not applicable when the individual:
1.Formally renounces U.S. citizenship before a consular officer;
2.Takes a policy level position in a foreign state;
3.Is convicted of treason; or
4.Performs an act made potentially expatriating by statute accompanied by conduct which is so inconsistent with retention of U.S. citizenship that it compels a conclusion that the individual intended to relinquish U.S. citizenship. (Such cases are very rare.)
*Cases in categories 2, 3, and 4 will be developed carefully by U.S. consular officers to ascertain the individual’s intent toward U.S. citizenship.
Even tho’ this was satire, I think any sitting congress person or candidate who supports not taking away their passports - should have theirs taken away!
Not only should they lose their passports .. they should lose their citizenship. Taking up arms against the country is treason.
May be satire, but certainly believable.
Staci Appel: Fighting the good fight... for terrorism.
Thank you for providing the facts while several of us FReepers, myself included, were busy hurling comments that had no real basis in fact.
Perhaps someone should provide this information (your post) to the IA candidate, who thinks we should be sure they get their R&R in a “safe” country.
You mean, after a lengthy and expensive trial, and after 30 years of room and board at American taxpayer’s expense, during which time he converted hundreds of fellow inmates to join ISIS?
There are less expensive ways to get rid of them.
It seems like we’re living in an age where documented facts and established laws are insignificant and alien concepts.
How DO these people who are supposed to be our leaders get where they are, if they are NOT aware of fundamental, long-standing rules and laws that the REST of us LIVE BY?
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