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Greenfield: What is Wrong with ISIS, is What is Wrong with Islam
Sultan Knish blog ^ | Tuesday, August 19, 2014 | Daniel Greenfield

Posted on 08/20/2014 8:18:09 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell

Tuesday, August 19, 2014

What is Wrong with ISIS, is What is Wrong with Islam

Posted by Daniel Greenfield @ the Sultan Knish blog

Know your enemy. To know what ISIS is, we have to clear away the media myths about ISIS.

ISIS is not a new phenomenon.

Wahhabi armies have been attacking Iraq in order to wipe out Shiites for over two hundred years. One of the more notably brutal attacks took place during the administration of President Thomas Jefferson.

That same year the Marine Corps saw action against the Barbary Pirates and West Point opened, but even Noam Chomsky, Michael Moore and Howard Zinn chiming via Ouija board would have trouble blaming the Wahhabi assault on the Iraqi city of Kerbala in 1802 on the United States or an oil pipeline.

Forget the media portrayals of ISIS as a new extreme group that even the newly moderate Al Qaeda thinks is over the top, its armies are doing the same things that Wahhabi armies have been doing for centuries. ISIS has Twitter accounts, pickup trucks and other borrowed Western technology, but otherwise it’s just a recurring phenomenon that has always been part of Islam. Sunnis and Shiites have been killing each other for over a thousand years. Declaring other Muslims to be infidels and killing them is also a lot older than the suicide bomb vest.

Al Qaeda and ISIS are at odds because its Iraqi namesake had a different agenda. Al Qaeda always had different factions with their own agendas. These factions were not more extreme or less extreme. They just had different nationalistic backgrounds and aims.

The Egyptian wing of Al Qaeda was obsessed with Egypt. Bin Laden was obsessed with Saudi Arabia. Some in Al Qaeda wanted a total world war. Others wanted to focus on taking over Muslim countries as bases. These differences sometimes led to threats and even violence among Al Qaeda members.

Bin Laden prioritized Saudi Arabia and America. That made it possible for Al Qaeda to pick up training from Hezbollah which helped make 9/11 possible. This low level cooperation with Iran was endangered when Al Qaeda in Iraq made fighting a religious war with Shiites into its priority.

That did not mean that Bin Laden liked Shiites and thought that AQIQ was “extreme” for killing them. This was a tactical disagreement over means.

During the Iraq War, Bin Laden had endorsed Al Qaeda in Iraq’s goal of fighting the Shiite “Rejectionists” by framing it as an attack on America. AQIQ’s Zarqawi had privately made it clear that he would not pledge allegiance to Osama bin Laden unless the terrorist leader endorsed his campaign against Shiites.

Bin Laden and the Taliban had been equally comfortable with Sipahe Sahaba and Lashkar-e-Jhangvi which provided manpower for the Taliban while massacring Shiites in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Last year LEJ had killed over a hundred Shiite Hazaras in one bombing.

The narrative that ISIS was more extreme than Al Qaeda because it killed Shiites and other Muslims doesn’t hold up in even recent history.

The media finds it convenient to depict the rise of newly extremist groups being radicalized by American foreign policy, Israeli blockades or Danish cartoons. A closer look however shows us that these groups did not become radicalized, rather they increased their capabilities.

ISIS understood from the very beginning that targeting Shiites and later Kurds would give it more appeal to Sunni Arabs inside Iraq and around the Persian Gulf. Bin Laden tried to rally Muslims by attacking America. ISIS has rallied Muslims by killing Shiites, Kurds, Christians and anyone else it can find.

Every news report insists that ISIS is an extreme outlier, but if that were really true then it would not have been able to conquer sizable chunks of Iraq and Syria. ISIS became huge and powerful because its ideology drew the most fighters and the most financial support. ISIS is powerful because it’s popular.

ISIS has become more popular and more powerful than Al Qaeda because Muslims hate other Muslims even more than they hate America. Media reports treat ISIS as an outside force that inexplicably rolls across Iraq and terrorizes everyone in its path. In reality, it’s the public face of a Sunni coalition. When ISIS massacres Yazidis, it’s not just following an ideology; it’s giving Sunni Arabs what they want.

Jamal Jamir, a surviving Yazidi, told CNN that his Arab neighbors had joined in the killing.

ISIS is dominating parts of Iraq and Syria because it draws on the support of a sizable part of the Sunni Arab population. It has their support because it is committed to killing or driving out Christians, Yazidis, Shiites and a long list of peoples in Iraq who either aren’t Muslims or aren’t Arabs and giving their land and possessions to the Sunni Arabs.

The media spent years denying that the Syrian Civil War was a sectarian conflict between Sunnis and Shiites. It’s unable to deny the obvious in Iraq, but it carefully avoids considering the implications.

Genocides are local. They are rarely carried out without the consent and participation of the locals. An army alone will have trouble committing genocide unless it has the cooperation of a local population that wants to see another group exterminated. When we talk about ISIS, we are really talking about Sunni Arabs in Iraq and Syria. Not all of them, but enough that ISIS and its associated groups have become the standard bearers of the Sunni civil wars in Syria and Iraq.

Hillary Clinton and John McCain can complain that we could have avoided the rise of ISIS if we had only armed the right sort of Jihadists in Syria. But if ISIS became dominant because its agenda had popular support, then it would not have mattered whom we armed or didn’t arm.

We armed the Iraqi military to the teeth, but it didn’t do any good because the military didn’t represent any larger consensus in an Iraq divided along religious and ethnic lines.

To understand ISIS, we have to unlearn many of the bad ideas we picked up since September 11. Terrorists, the media tell us, represent some extreme edge of the population. If they have popular support, it’s only because the civilian population has somehow become radicalized. (And usually it’s our fault.)

And yet that model doesn’t hold up. It never did.

The religious and ethnic strife in the Middle East out of which ISIS emerged and which has become its brand, goes back over a thousand years. If support for terrorism emerges from radicalization, then the armies of Islam were radicalized in the time of Mohammed and have never been de-radicalized.

Terrorism is not reactive. As ISIS has shown us, it has a vision for the future. The Caliphate, like the Reich, is a utopia which can only be created through the mass murder and repression of all those who do not belong. This isn’t a new vision. It’s the founding vision of Islam.

What is wrong with ISIS is what is wrong with Islam.

We can defeat ISIS, but we should remember that its roots are in the hearts of the Sunni Muslims who have supported it. ISIS and Al Qaeda are only symptoms of the larger problem.

We can see the larger problem flying Jihadist flags in London and New Jersey. We can see it trooping through Australian and Canadian airports to join ISIS. We can see it in the eyes of the Sunni Arabs murdering their Yazidi neighbors. ISIS is an expression of the murderous hate within Islam. We are not only at war with an acronym, but with the dark hatred in the hearts of men, some of whom are in Iraq and Pakistan. And some of whom live next door.


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1 posted on 08/20/2014 8:18:09 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell
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When we finally get around to pushing the Muslims back into the desert, without oil, we will have made the rest of the world safe from their brand of demonic possession. Until then we suffer the atrocity of a terrorist in the White House.

2 posted on 08/20/2014 8:20:34 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
can we finally call evil, evil and deal with it...

these people need to be destroyed...

and yet we've had a prez who not only protects them but promotes them and arms them....he is one of them....

we could have all swallowed hard and elected Romney....now we are facing WW3 and there will be fighing within our borders between American born jihadists and the American people.

3 posted on 08/20/2014 8:22:08 AM PDT by cherry
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To: Louis Foxwell

We were already uniquely privileged:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3194972/posts


4 posted on 08/20/2014 8:22:30 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: Louis Foxwell

IS is not a small, breakaway, splinter group; a tiny minority of fanatics. It is individuals who are willing to carry out the teachings of the ideology.
IS = taliban = alquaeda = hamas = hezbollah = boko haram


5 posted on 08/20/2014 8:32:49 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: I want the USA back
can we finally call evil, evil and deal with it... these people need to be destroyed... and yet we've had a prez who not only protects them but promotes them and arms them....he is one of them.... we could have all swallowed hard and elected Romney....now we are facing WW3 and there will be fighing within our borders between American born jihadists and the American people.
The dunderheads, allegedly on our side, who did not vote on election day for Romney are to blame. ..."He's a RINO"... "He's a Mormon"... Lame and stupid excuses. He understood the Islamist desire to do what they are doing now in Iraq. Period. And because of those dunderheads we are where we are.
6 posted on 08/20/2014 8:42:49 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regret.s - but it may be too late.)
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To: cherry

Allah is Satan, Satan is Allah.

To consider the proposition, one must accept two other propositions. God is real. Satan is real. Allah can be Satan only if one accepts the former two assertions.

Further, Pope John Paul II photographed kissing the Koran thereby giving his imprimatur as “the Vicar Of Christ” to a blasphemous Satanic corruption, was not even commented upon. This almost defies belief. The identity of Islam as a Satanic enterprise has been recognized throughout recorded history.

Hosts of “Christian leaders” have acquiesced to the preposterous claim of Islam as being not just one of three Abrahamic Monotheistic religions, but the assertion that the Islamic faith itself has spiritual parity with Judaism and Christianity. Going beyond the notion of parity (equal to), the adherents of Islam are committed to the destruction of Jews and Christians worldwide. Why? Because Islam and its prophet are the seal of perfection, abrogating the corrupted Jewish and Christian books, Mohammed being the perfect man, the voice and the spirit of Allah.

The pages to follow will not be comprehensible to the Agnostic, the Atheist, the Humanist, or the Secular Progressive.

Perhaps I am committing myself here to a sure death at the hands of the Muslims who will bark and howl for my capture and decapitation. Fatwas will be issued by the Islamic “Clerics” and “Imams”, the “Mullahs”, and the “Scholars” who perpetuate the death cult of Islam. God did not spare the Apostles. All but John died at the hands of torture by the governing authorities.

I do not expect or hope to live beyond my appointed time. God knows when this will be, I do not.

Despite their behavior, their actions, their dreams and aspirations, Muslims are human beings descended as all humans are from creation in the image of God. I write this for them that they may have a choice to entertain not provided for them by their culture and religion.

I do not condone Muslims. I will hope for an awakening from within their massed apostasies, that they will hearken to and listen and act on the voice of God that is not hidden from them. They only need to read the only manual given by God to mankind and prayerfully ask, show me the truth and I will give my life to spread your Word, go wherever You wish me to go, and to reach as many people as I can to un-blind them.

As I write this, I am moving forward in faith that God will use it to move those in darkness, bound by hatred, immersed in murder, lies and corruption.

We will see if this is so. I am bound by awe and humility, struck by my complete and abject unworthiness, losing my fear to offend, never, I pray, to be silenced in order not to offend, but instead reaching out to all the descendants of Adam, to proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ and to acquit myself well of the responsibility of the knowledge God has given me in His Word, His perfect Grace and in His gift of Faith Everlasting.
A Muslim mother’s milk is steeped in Jew hatred as well as Christian hatred, it is also steeped in ignorance and cultural blinders. The child is prevented by family from forming individual thoughts, or opinions. Rafael Patai, the son of a British diplomat, raised in Islamic culture, was, by his own admission, a great admirer of Arabic notions of honor, loyalty, and hospitality. When he wrote “The Arab Mind” it was an attempt to objectively present what makes them tick.

Linguistically, the Arabic language is temporally stunted. Past events are indeterminate, the present is not bound by any influence other than “Allah willing”, time is a space of potential that may not be filled, and the future is only the sum of daily obeisance to Allah and cannot be relied upon.

“The Arab Mind” was and remains banned in Islamic nations.

A number of former Muslims have traversed the journey from madness to rationality to reach a state of enlightenment. I acknowledge their contributions and their courage. Faced with threats of violence, accepting the loss of community to include family, they have proclaimed their own abiding faith. God now uses them to free the prisoners, give sight to the blind, to heal hearts and to save precious human beings in accordance with God’s own desire that no one should perish but that all will come to a saving grace in His Son, Jesus Christ.

Satan concocted Islam as a distraction, a deception, a path to material goods-riches, and as a justification for what Satan most enjoys, death, preferably by murder of all humanity.

Satan created Islam to punish women, to subjugate, demean, and use all women as chattel slaves, no worth, no value other than submission to the whims of whatever the man requires of the woman. Satan loves all demeaning acts, sins that devalue human life, and horrify both young and old. Satan is a pederast, a fan of bestiality and an unlimited sadist.

God loves mankind and although condemned already, mankind was given a gift, salvation to any who would believe on His Son and repent of their sin. Satan is the author of death, lies and murder and only offers transient rewards, the material things one cannot bring into the coffin. Certainly archeology, for what it is worth, is a study of the funerary arrangements made in human cultures, the elaborate preparations, the statuary, the human sacrifice of slaves and servants, gold, precious stones, artwork and scenes of a supposed journey into an after-life.

Generations of humanity from the beginning are stench, defilement, and corruption rotting through the ages.

The Apostle Paul cried out in despair “who will rescue me from this body of death”? What he would do, he did not, and what he did not want to do, he did. The answer came, Jesus Christ would rescue him from his death.

Islam is almost a perfect vehicle for death. One cannot choose, one cannot easily leave, it is a death sentence passed on at birth. However, the author of death is limited. Allah is not God, Allah is Satan. Satan bit off more than he can chew. Some will leave and Satan cannot prevent it. He can blaspheme God, turn everything on its head, and murder whoever opposes him but in the end, God will do His will and do all His pleasure. Satan is a prisoner leading the riots in the prison, doing great harm and damage but unable to escape, unable to prevent deserters of his cause, unable to best his Creator.

God, who by His Word. caused everything to be made that was made and verified that nothing is made that He did not make, can unmake all He made.

Unmake? Yes. In these times, Satan appears rampant, victorious, destroying at will what he wishes to destroy. But only God can unmake creation by His Word.

Islam is a bloody death cult with no redeeming features, it is death first and foremost. Satan is the author of death. God is the author of life.

Islam cannot be reformed, it cannot be made whole, it cannot be justified or forgiven. It is the Satanic vehicle of destruction that Satan intended it to be. When it is eradicated by God, it will be in a lake of fire in the presence of the Son and all the holy angelic realm.

So what will happen? All the Islamic nations (the Beast) along with the false prophet (the Mahdi) will be cast into the Lake of fire, the pit. Does the smoke of their torment rise forever mean that they will not die? No. They will die. Only the smoke of their torment is eternal. They are extinguished, consumed, Unmade by fire. The death is eternal just as life can be eternal, unending. No one cast into the lake will ever return, they have been unmade. No one who is saved unto life eternal will ever die.

There really are only two sides to the coin. One side is eternal death, the other side is eternal life.

So, what does Islam promise? Soft couches, wine, female and male virgins, boys for sex, unending paradisiacal viagra for sex and sex and more sex. Where is Allah? Not there.

Allah does not wish to bothered, just party hardy and get it on. Allah has more important things to do than interact with his slaves.

Well, for many people to have access to as much wine as one can drink, promiscuous sex for eternity, no need for anything but sensual pleasure, never hung over, never sated, just one physical sensation of pleasure for eternity, probably sounds good. Most Muslims are mired in poverty, disease and bondage, swimming in corruption daily, sure to die young, unnoticed, immature, foolish, clueless as to what they might have known had they listened to God rather than Satan.

Everything Satan offers is calculated through Islam, deceit, murder, theft, rape, power, and no consequences for any act, however monstrous. All is celebrated, revenge against the Jew to the point of extermination, revenge against the Christian to the point of extermination. Take, seize, murder, enslave, abuse and humiliate—it is all good.

Talk about knowing your customer! Satan provides all through Islam and his base is certainly growing. Just submit, kill as directed, steal as you wish, lie when convenient, or take whatever gives you lust, all is covered so long as you are willing to state “Their is no God but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger”.

That’s not so hard is it? It really does not change who you are and look at all the perks. There is nothing you cannot have—just take it, kill whoever objects, concentrate on the Jews and the Christians first, but in the end you can kill whoever you want. If it is a Muslim that you want dead, just accuse them of apostasy, than kill them. Who cares? In your mind, they had it coming, you are the judge and the jury and the executioner.

Sweet huh? Yes, Satan knows his customers and he is all too happy to lead them in the way they should go.

Now the downside is that once all the non-Muslims have been murdered or forced to convert, there really isn’t anyone left to do work, to think, to invent, manage the effort to have habitable cities, towns and villages in which people can go about the daily business of life.

The long decline and ultimate collapse of Islam as an empire took several hundreds of years from their zenith, the so-called “Golden Age”. Complex systems of civil and agricultural engineering, industry and finance were never assimilated by the Muslims. They used their Dhimmis to feed and house them and keep the roads passable and mail delivery going, service and maintain irrigation canals and channels etc. Well, when they exhausted the slave labor available through murder and forced conversion to Satan worship, the Empire began to fail, began to collapse and finally ended post WWI and the victors of the Great War apportioned among themselves the territories that had lain fallow and undeveloped for centuries as colonies.

Islam was dead from a fatal head wound just as God said it would be. God said it would also be revived at some point and miraculously recover from the fatal head wound it had suffered.

Albert Hourani wrote a “History of the Arab People” which intended to compile what, when, why, where and how the descendants of Ishmael and Esau have passed through time to their current condition. It is copiously footnoted and sports a handy reference to the reigns of Mohammed and his successors. It was striking to me to note that it appears no one died in office as Caliph, they were all murdered apparently. I was not there of course and I leave it Albert to correct me if I am wrong.

Kemal Ataturk was an interesting man. Ataturk changed the alphabet to Roman from Arabic, instituted reforms, secularized the country of Turkey, committed genocide against Armenian Christians, and as reported to me by a Pakistani amateur historian, invited all the Turkish clerics of Islam to attend the annual Haj in Mecca. Once they were aboard and had cleared the straits of Bosporus, a Turkish submarine torpedoed the cruise ship. Reportedly, all aboard the free junket to Mecca died.

Ataturk (the “father” of modern Turkey) abolished the office of Caliphate and sought to modernize Turkey—the original “sick man” of Europe. For decades his reforms remained in place and Turkey became a candidate for EU membership. Turkey is a member of NATO.

Well, Turkey has changed, again. Reccip Erdogan has broken off relations with Israel, a former trading partner and military ally. Turkey has reverted to nature, is staunchly Anti-Israel and appears to be brokering relations between Israel and her neighbors with bad intent.

Israel stands pretty much alone in the early 21st century. America is no longer a trusted ally for Israel. We have an Islamist in the White House as President.

This will not end well.


8 posted on 08/20/2014 8:48:59 AM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: Louis Foxwell

Its a pretty good synopsis. The crusades held Islam back for almost 1000 years. Now its time for Crusades part Deux. First order of business being purge them all from Western society.


9 posted on 08/20/2014 9:12:37 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Louis Foxwell
Muslims hate other Muslims

that's because the mysticism of mohammedanism is so thoroughly and hopelessly repugnant to reason and reality

10 posted on 08/20/2014 9:27:40 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Louis Foxwell
Forget the media portrayals of ISIS as a new extreme group that even the newly moderate Al Qaeda thinks is over the top, its armies are doing the same things that Wahhabi armies have been doing for centuries.

Islam gives ONE MAN four wives... and three men NONE. The Koran tells men they have the right to take women and female children into sexual slavery if they defeat the 'the enemy' in battle.

And we wonder why these 'humans turned into animals' are eternally at war?

11 posted on 08/20/2014 10:31:00 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Looted store owners in Ferguson should to sue the city. They paid for police protection - got none)
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To: the anti-mahdi

That was worth the time to read it. Well done. And may I add, quite educational. Thanks for posting that.


12 posted on 03/29/2015 3:07:12 AM PDT by SandwicheGuy (*The butter acts as a lubricant and speeds up the CPU*ou)
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