Police Chief now says officer might have realized Michael Brown was robbery suspect

MissouriNet ^ | August 15, 2014 | Mike Lear

[DaveA37]

“......brown had his hands in the air and the cop assassinated him”.....

Arms raised? You actually saw that and/or believe those witnesses? Having some experience with witnesses, (particularly those who are of the race of Brown), I have great suspicion to the accountability of such information as they would provide.

[Freedom of Speech Wins]

To be slander it can’t be true. How can a video showing what he actually did be slander?

[Freedom of Speech Wins]

These felon "victims" have gone downhill since Rodney King.

First Trayvon Martin, now this guy, always some violent thug they choose to riot for.

[Fido969]

“Might” have realized?

Thanks for nothing, d#psh!t.

[Vinnie]

I’m very interested in what the toxicology report is going to show in the ‘Gentle Giant’s’ system.
They are going to do one aren’t they?
I’m betting he was strung out on meth or steroids.

[IrishBrigade]

Arms raised? You actually saw that and/or believe those witnesses?

...I think he was expressing his skepticism of that possibility...

[mac_truck]

There was a report a teen girl had a camera/phone with video of the actual incident that was confiscated on the scene.

There is another cell phone video out there taken at the scene after the shooting. While the video isn't all that relevant, a witness conversation that was recorded taking place off camera pretty much corroborates the officer's version of events. Ferguson PD has been notified of the video's existence because it will likely be taken down, once it's relevance becomes known.

[Tired of Taxes]

the call went out with a description of the suspects, all units on patrol would have heard it.

Good point!

When the chief said the officer didn't know Brown had robbed a store, maybe he meant the officer didn't realize Brown himself was the suspect. But the officer would've heard the call.

And if Brown believed he was about to be arrested for the crime, that would explain why he pushed the officer. Seeing how he had no compunction about taking what he wanted and pushing a store owner out of his way, it's not difficult to believe he did the same thing to a police officer if he thought he was about to be arrested.

[Tired of Taxes]

Do you have a link to that video (before it disappears)?

[mac_truck]

Here you go with a standard language warning...it was uploaded by someone who calls himself the black Canseco. Again, the important conversation is taking place off camera and can be a little bit difficult to hear clearly at times. Audio experts will have no difficulty isolating the conversation however.

Michael Brown Eyewitness Crime Scene Video

[Tired of Taxes]

Thank you. It sounds like that side conversation starts around 6 minutes into the video. I’ll try to transcribe it if no one else has.

FTR, I can understand and sympathize with the people in that video. They didn’t see what happened. They heard shots and came outside, and a young man was lying shot in the middle of the street. You can hear the rumors spreading already in that video that “his hands were up, and they shot him anyway.”

There’s NO excuse for anyone to riot and loot, but it’s understandable why the people who didn’t see what happened were upset and how the rumors started.

[Tired of Taxes]

Side conversation begins around 6:12.
[?] = unable to hear/understand
Note: Unable to distinguish between speakers.

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That’s the one that ran behind this right here. Because he ran up there, where we [?], where we live at.

[?] when I came outside, all I seen was [?] in the [truck? trunk?] right there [?]. I don’t know what happened, [?].

[Crosstalk]

How’d he get from there to here?

[Crosstalk]

‘Cause he ran. Police were still in the truck.

They came this way?

[Crosstalk]

Why his body come this way though?

[Crosstalk]

[?] He was like over the [truck? trunk?] [?] he ran. Police got out and ran after him. [Crosstalk] And next thing I know, he’s coming back toward the [truck? trunk?]

[Crosstalk]

Police had to run.

Oh, the police [?].

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This is not a good transcription. Maybe someone else can hear more than I can. This doesn’t tell us much, but it might back up what the officer is claiming - that Brown was in the patrol car (the truck?) and then ran back toward the police for some reason? I don’t know...

[Ronald J Riley]

Most witnesses are unreliable and in these cases we have repeatedly seen that they have an agenda. Forensic evidence is the best way to get at the truth.

[Eagles6]

There is a woman who said that she witnessed the entire incident but videoed the aftermath. It was confiscated and returned.

She said, like dorian johnson, that the 175 lb sitting officer was trying to pull the 300 lb standing brown into the vehicle on top of him through the window or open door.

That obviously makes no sense at all.

If she is being truthful and did see it she probably saw the original assault and the fight for the gun and interpreted what she had seen to fit the narrative.